Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Colton Conor wrote: How stable and feature rich are both of their platforms? How do both of I have played around with the Edgerouter ER-5. It's a fairly immature product compared to Cisco and Juniper. One of the bigger problems is that they don't really release fixes

[HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-12 Thread Toney Mareo
Hello I think it's kind of an isp secret but I would be curious how do people distribute modems to pools before they would even reach the actual IP network so on layer2: http://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/papers/evaluation/docsis/Service_Distribution.jpg For this I would like to get some

Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Justin Wilson
Another thing to consider is how you feel about the configuration. Mikrotik has a more polished GUI and command subset. UBNT is still working things out. A lot of what you have to to do with the UBNT line has to still be done in command line. If you are cool with that then not a big

So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
512K routes, here we come. Lots of TCAM based routers suddenly become really expensive doorstops. Maybe time to revisit this old 2007 nanog thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_view_flat;post=99870;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;list=nanog FYI nanog -

Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Denis Fondras
Le 12/08/2014 17:15, Justin Wilson a écrit : Another thing to consider is how you feel about the configuration. Mikrotik has a more polished GUI and command subset. UBNT is still working things out. A lot of what you have to to do with the UBNT line has to still be done in command

Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Denis Fondras xx...@ledeuns.net wrote: Le 12/08/2014 17:15, Justin Wilson a écrit : Another thing to consider is how you feel about the configuration. Mikrotik has a more polished GUI and command subset. UBNT is still working things out. A lot of

Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested to hear opinions on Mikrotik and Ubiquiti Networks routing and switching products. I know both hardware providers are widely deployed in WISP networks, but I am less interested in their wireless

Re: [HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-12 Thread charles
On 2014-08-12 09:23, Toney Mareo wrote: Hello I think it's kind of an isp secret but I would be curious how do people distribute modems to pools before they would even reach the actual IP network so on layer2: http://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/papers/evaluation/docsis/Service_Distribution.jpg

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Many don't need to buy anything new. Just follow the instructions here: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switche$ We did this in the 1st week of June. Problem solved. -Hank 512K routes, here we come.

Re: [HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-12 Thread Scott Helms
Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 http://twitter.com/kscotthelms On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Toney Mareo halfli...@gmx.com wrote: Hello I think it's kind of an isp secret but I would be

AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Hi, I'm interested in knowing what sorts of material folks use to make after-market dust filters for their various devices which wouldn't normally have any. This seems to almost be a necessity when these kinds of devices are deployed in environments that are overly dusty and dirty (it should

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Hank Nussbacher wrote: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/117712-problemsolution-cat6500-00.html -Hank On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Many don't need to buy anything new. Just follow the instructions

fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Eduardo A. Suárez
Hi, it's not a joke. Here we have a fire ants nest in the fiber patch panel. Are there any DIY ways to manage that? Thanks, Eduardo.- -- Eduardo A. Suarez Facultad de Ciencias Astronómicas y Geofísicas - UNLP FCAG: (0221)-4236593 int. 172/Cel: (0221)-15-4557542/Casa: (0221)-4526589

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Tom Morris
Terro is my go-to for that... it's basically boric acid mixed with a sugar solution. The ants eat it and perish. It's the only thing I've found that works on the infamous Crazy Rasberry Ants that like to eat electrical panels. On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Eduardo A. Suárez

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:52:45 -0300, Eduardo A. Su?rez said: it's not a joke. Here we have a fire ants nest in the fiber patch panel. Are there any DIY ways to manage that? Does the local zoo have an aardvark they're willing to loan you? :) This might be a tad difficult to deal with, as the

RE: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Eric Wieling
I've used mothballs* in outside enclosures each spring, but I've never had a full blown nest in an enclosure.Fireants are hard to kill, but they will move their nest. * naphthalene, para-dichlorobenzene, p-dichlorobenzene, pDCB, or PDB -Original Message- From: NANOG

RE: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Freeze it with a CO2 extinguisher then clean it out and re-seal the enclosure. You may want to consider a small open dish of repellant/killer in the enclosure in case they get in again :-) Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C 274 E. Eau Gallie Blvd. #336 Indian Harbour Beach, FL

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Glover
On 8/12/2014 11:52 AM, Eduardo A. Suárez wrote: Hi, it's not a joke. Here we have a fire ants nest in the fiber patch panel. Are there any DIY ways to manage that? Thanks, Eduardo.- Shop vac?

Re: AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread Tom Morris
One important question: how often is the equipment accessed for maintenance? I've had reasonably good luck with air filter media coated with a tackifier, similar to the Dustlok media here http://www.filtersales.com/pagout.htm?id=Pad%20Media It seems like what happens with it is heavier airborne

Re: AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/12/2014 11:19 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Hi, I'm interested in knowing what sorts of material folks use to make after-market dust filters for their various devices which wouldn't normally have any. This seems to almost be a necessity when these kinds of devices are deployed in

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread TR Shaw
+1 for CO2 (But stand way back as they will go everywhere) +1 for moth balls in the enclosure (esp prophylactically) +1 for boric acid mixed with molasses (use externally) Also stops carpenter ants in poles.) Tom On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Robert Glover wrote: On 8/12/2014 11:52 AM,

Re: AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Tom Morris bluen...@gmail.com wrote: One important question: how often is the equipment accessed for maintenance? Who knows :) Maybe it becomes someone's full time job to go do regular checks and maintenances of every POP? Maybe after an appropriate filter is

Re: AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On Aug 12, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 08/12/2014 11:19 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Hi, I'm interested in knowing what sorts of material folks use to make after-market dust filters for their various devices which wouldn't normally have any. This seems to

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Mike.
On 8/12/2014 at 2:59 PM Tom Morris wrote: |Terro is my go-to for that... it's basically boric acid mixed with a sugar |solution. The ants eat it and perish. It's the only thing I've found that |works on the infamous Crazy Rasberry Ants that like to eat electrical |panels. = In case

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread me
Ran across this paper the other day and didn't know how big a problem it was. Looks like Eduardo's post confirms it. http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/c51ce4107047eb1b2dc/Ants%20in%20OSP%20Equipment.pdf.pdf --John On 08/12/2014 12:52 PM, Eduardo A. Suárez wrote: Hi, it's not a joke.

Re: AM dust filters

2014-08-12 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote: Do folks just hack up HEPA filters or something? I've had decent luck with window air conditioner filters available at your local home despot. Trim to size with scissors. Periodically replace. HEPA they are not, but they'll

Level3 (AS3549) BGP contact off-list

2014-08-12 Thread Laurent CARON
Hi, Currently experiencing trouble with BGP session between 49463 and 3549. Relevant router: cdg2.gblx.net Can you please contact me off-list for resolution ? Thanks

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread charles
On 2014-08-12 15:06, me wrote: Ran across this paper the other day and didn't know how big a problem it was. Looks like Eduardo's post confirms it. http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/c51ce4107047eb1b2dc/Ants%20in%20OSP%20Equipment.pdf.pdf Now that is fascinating. I like how they

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: Many don't need to buy anything new. Just follow the instructions here: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switche$ We did this in the 1st week of June. Problem solved. s/Problem

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il wrote: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/117712-problemsolution-cat6500-00.html I note that the recommended command in that article, mls cef maximum-routes ip 1000, will throw

Re: ****SPAM:5.2**** Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Tom Hill
On 12/08/14 23:10, William Herrin wrote: I note that the recommended command in that article, mls cef maximum-routes ip 1000, will throw most of your IPv6 routes out of the TCAM instead. Which if you have any IPv6 traffic of substance just kills you in the other direction. Might want to try

Re: Mikrotik RouterBoard and Ubiquiti Networks Routing and Switching Solutions

2014-08-12 Thread Rob Seastrom
Denis Fondras xx...@ledeuns.net writes: May we discuss IPv6 support ? Last time I checked, UBNT was lagging behind... I've been running an IPv6 tunnel (cough FIOS) with one end being Mikrotik and the other being UBNT (ER-Lite) since January 2013. The UBNT is in a fairly simple-minded

Re: fire ants

2014-08-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, char...@thefnf.org wrote: 2014-08-12 15:06, me wrote: Ran across this paper the other day and didn't know how big a problem it was. Looks like Eduardo's post confirms it. http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/c51ce4107047eb1b2dc/Ants%20in%

Re: [HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-12 Thread Rob Seastrom
Toney Mareo halfli...@gmx.com writes: Hello I think it's kind of an isp secret but I would be curious how do people distribute modems to pools before they would even reach the actual IP network so on layer2:

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Matthew Petach wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:06 PM, McElearney, Kevin kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/internet-hiccups-today-youre-not-alone-heres-why-7 32566/ According to NANOG, and complaints tracker DownDetector, many Internet

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread McElearney, Kevin
From: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com Unless you guys are miraculously managing to terminate Nx100G bundles into 6509s with Sup2 or sup3s, I would be really, really surprised if this even made it on your radar. Chalk it up to poorly-researched reporting. And if you *are* handling Nx100G

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 18:10 12/08/2014 -0400, William Herrin wrote: We went with 768 - enough time to replace the routers with ASR9010s. It is merely a stop-gap measure to give everyone time to replace their routers in an orderly fashion. -Hank On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Hank Nussbacher

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:08:04 +0300, Hank Nussbacher said: We went with 768 - enough time to replace the routers with ASR9010s. It is merely a stop-gap measure to give everyone time to replace their routers in an orderly fashion. The same people who, knowing the 6509 had this default config