Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Lee Howard
On 3/13/15 5:14 PM, m...@becknet.com m...@becknet.com wrote: Lee, On the contrary, I think RFCs are pretty consistent about always referring you to any superseding RFCs, and superseding RFCs reference their predecessors, creating a very useful historical doubly-linked list. I've served on IEEE

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Rob Seastrom
Charles N Wyble char...@thefnf.org writes: Use a git repository. Make tagged releases. This enables far easier distributed editing, translating, mirroring etc. And A fine idea in theory, but not quite as much traction in reality as bcp38. Creating a need for a BCP for retrieving BCPs so

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Charles N Wyble
Use a git repository. Make tagged releases. This enables far easier distributed editing, translating, mirroring etc. And you can still do whatever release engineering you want. A wiki is a horrible solution for something like this. On March 15, 2015 8:24:49 AM CDT, Rob Seastrom

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:40:27AM -0400, Lee Howard wrote: I know, I should really be having this rant in the RFC evolution WG, or with the RFC editor. It just came up here, and I want BCOP to make different mistakes on useful documents. Even if you suppose that the RFC series is arranged

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rob Seastrom writes: The wiki/living document approach others have suggested seems like a poor one to me, for the same reason that I dislike the current trend of there's no release tarball, major release, point release, or regression testing - just git clone the repository in free software

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:14:05 -0400, Andrew Sullivan said: I also think that trying to pack more bits of information into the numbering system is a mistake. But then, I would. I think you look those sorts of things up (in the DNS, of course ;-) ) DANE? :) pgpxZQL3U0mjq.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Searching for a quote

2015-03-15 Thread Dave Crocker
On 3/12/2015 5:24 PM, Tom Paseka wrote: Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept ^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle As with all terse summaries, the meaning of this is easy to distort. In the unfortunately not-so-uncommon extreme, it is used to argue for

Rerouting of UK traffic

2015-03-15 Thread Jonathan Tomek
Hello Everyone, DYN put out an interesting report on how 14 British telecom routes (167 prefixes) were routed through Ukraine for a good portion of time. The ASN in question is AS12883 (Vega in Kiev, Ukraine). Do you think this could be a mistake? Does anyone have any additional information to