OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

2015-06-28 Thread Mel Beckman
Google has always played fast and loose with its AI claims, but today t has gone too far. In a WSJ story, Google is misleading people into thinking it has achieved emotion, if not outright consciousness, in its AI programming:

Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland

2015-06-28 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote: How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics, going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your

Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-28 Thread chris
I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones in really dense metro areas On Jun 26, 2015 10:40 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:32 PM, John

Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

2015-06-28 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:48 , manning bmann...@karoshi.com wrote: Quite a few folks actually. (the 802.5 802.4 specs)…. This is kind of like asking when we will stop using ethernet framing (ethernet was designed for a 3Mbps transmission rate) yet we are deploying 100Gbps networks. Still

Re: How long will it take to completely get rid of IPv4 or will it happen at all?

2015-06-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:02:52 -0700, Owen DeLong said: On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:48 , manning bmann...@karoshi.com wrote: Quite a few folks actually. (the 802.5 802.4 specs)…. This is kind of like asking when we will stop using ethernet framing (ethernet was designed for a 3Mbps

Re: Quanta LB4M

2015-06-28 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote: Has anyone gotten a non-factory firmware to go onto these guys? There are a couple threads on Google that are inconclusive. There are rumors that it's the same as a Dell something or an HP something else, but no one has

Re: Quanta LB4M

2015-06-28 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 6/28/15 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Has anyone gotten a non-factory firmware to go onto these guys? There are a couple threads on Google that are inconclusive. There are rumors that it's the same as a Dell something or an HP something else, but no one has outright said, I loaded a Dell

Re: Quanta LB4M

2015-06-28 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I'm surprised that I missed that announcement until this morning. Given the love\hate I have with UBNT, I may end up getting them... and then hating myself for it. Those in the WISP business will understand. For those not in the WISP business, case of vendor doesn't listen on a regular

Quanta LB4M

2015-06-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone gotten a non-factory firmware to go onto these guys? There are a couple threads on Google that are inconclusive. There are rumors that it's the same as a Dell something or an HP something else, but no one has outright said, I loaded a Dell firmware onto it and solved all of the

Re: OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

2015-06-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: Don't computer scientists have a responsibility to deal forthrightly with the public on the real state of research in such fields as AI? When an Internet provider like Google makes such outlandish claims, one has to wonder

Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-28 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, chris wrote: I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones in really dense metro areas The majority of ILEC COs I've seen are unstaffed these days, save for the rare

Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland

2015-06-28 Thread Keith Stokes
Use wireless. There are reasonably priced point to point bridges available. -- Keith Stokes On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Peter Kristolaitis alte...@alter3d.ca wrote: On 6/26/2015 7:26 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 26 Jun 2015, at 15:04, Hank Disuko wrote: Bell Canada is apparently gearing

Re: Data Center Network Monitoring with TAPs

2015-06-28 Thread Kristian Francisco
I'm designing the first phase of a datacenter network monitoring project for my company. We are starting with SPAN at access layer and plan to control traffic volume using filtering, slicing, de-dupe, etc. There are instances when we need to do capacity/delay analysis on L2 traffic and Ixia,

Re: OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

2015-06-28 Thread Mel Beckman
Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this technology seems like one that Google might try to leverage into a snoopy product. . -mel via cell On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Christopher Morrow

Re: OK, Google. Time to dial back the AI hype.

2015-06-28 Thread ryanL
has nothing to do with network operations. stick to reddit or slashdot. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 20:57 Mel Beckman m...@beckman.org wrote: Because Google is an ISP, it seems to me a legitimate discussion point. Given Google's penchant for crafty customer surveillance, this technology seems like