Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Thomas
So I have to ask, why is it advantageous to put this in a container rather than just run it directly on the container's host? Mike On 06/14/2018 05:03 PM, Richard Hicks wrote: I'm happy with GoBGP in a docker container for my BGP Dashboard/LookingGlass project.

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:41 PM Oliver O'Boyle wrote: > There's no reason why it shouldn't work well. It's just a minor paradigm > shift that requires some solid testing and knowhow on the ops team. > > and... XR or Junos are ... doing this under the covers for you anyway, so.. get used to the

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
There's no reason why it shouldn't work well. It's just a minor paradigm shift that requires some solid testing and knowhow on the ops team. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 22:26 Eric Tykwinski, wrote: > The funny part is I don’t like containers but love VMs, so kvm, vmware, > citrix, hvm, et al. > Not

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Eric Tykwinski
The funny part is I don’t like containers but love VMs, so kvm, vmware, citrix, hvm, et al. Not much difference but I tend to like the separation of OS knowledge, with all the bugs lately though I wonder if it’s worth it. Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 > On Jun 14,

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hunter Fuller
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:46 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive. I have no idea. All - You know no one is trying to make *you* run BGP inside of a container, right?

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I wonder which part of the proposal people find offensive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "james jones" To: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:56:09 PM Subject:

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Richard Hicks
I'm happy with GoBGP in a docker container for my BGP Dashboard/LookingGlass project. https://github.com/rhicks/bgp-dashboard Its just piping RIB updates, as JSON, to script to feed into MongoDB container. At work we also looked at GoBGP as a route-server for a small IXP type of setup, but ran

Re: fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Thu 2018-Jun-14 23:28:50 +0200, na...@jack.fr.eu.org wrote: Bof I currently use cumulus's software, I will then report my experience: not production ready You have a lot of features, with a fast development, but .. I expect my network to be a rock solid part of my infrastructure,

Re: fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread nanog
Bof I currently use cumulus's software, I will then report my experience: not production ready You have a lot of features, with a fast development, but .. I expect my network to be a rock solid part of my infrastructure, especially when I am using the classic part, not the fancy ones When I

Google Scholar Contact?

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Gard
Hey, Can someone reach out to me off list in regards to Google Scholar? Been dealing with an issue in which a recently acquired IP block appears to have been blacklisted in the past and is impacting end users. Thanks! -- Ryan Gard

Re: FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Kearney via NANOG
Also, please stop putting quotes in your email signature... it's 2018. ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 13, 2018 2:01 AM, wrote: > Then perhaps that thread was killed by the moderators. Please heed > > the list charter. > > Also, please get a mail client that generates proper

RE: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Travis Garrison
>On 6/12/18 1:52 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Randy Bush said: If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry, so very sorry. Especially when it comes to v6. >>> >>> emacs! >> >> vim! >> > >ed! Butterflies!

fd.io vs cumulus vs snabb vs OVS vs OpenNSL

2018-06-14 Thread Marcus Leske
Hi Any thought leader on the list to shed some light to what is happening in the world of open networking ? OVS vs OpenNSL vs Cumulus vs fd.io vs Snabb vs a lot of stuff :) Where is this going ? What are the obvious pros and cons of each when it comes to scale and feature velocity ?

FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

2018-06-14 Thread John Sage
On 06/12/2018 01:10 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: Apologies for the noise. Please hit delete... Once again I am not able to send email to the list and have either been moderated off again (for some mistake or some unknown reason why) or something else is going on. Sent email to admins@, but no

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Vicente Luca
I run BGP (bird) on containers in a high available production environment for supporting multiple kubernetes clusters, among other very critical pieces of my infrastructure. As long as you know what you’re doing and have people that knows how to troubleshoot, it's very reliable. the fact that

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Jay Christopher
Not sure I've seen it mentioned, so will throw NetBox into the mix. https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox - jay On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Either phpipam or nipap. > > Both use fairly standard database backends and db schema (usually something > as simple as mariadb

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Luca Salvatore via NANOG
Netbox. Open source IPAM and DCIM built by DigitalOcean https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Either phpipam or nipap. > > Both use fairly standard database backends and db schema (usually something > as simple as mariadb listenong on

Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

2018-06-14 Thread Lee Howard
On 06/11/2018 05:16 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: --- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ca By Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA reach them via ipv6 And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles And they both report ipv6 is faster / better. Let me

Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

2018-06-14 Thread Lee Howard
Assuming IPv6+translation, yes, you need IPv4 addresses of Good Repute for the outside; that might requiring constant monitoring, and notifying various content that it's shared address space. It's the same operational problem as CGNAT44, but reduced because half (or more) of your traffic is

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Ryan Kearney
Can we please stop spamming the list with this crap now? > On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > > On 06/12/2018 08:26 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >>> emacs! >> vim! > ed! TECO! >>> cat >> IBM 029. > > Youngster. IBM 026.

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Estevan Pagan
Device42. https://www.device42.com/ On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:53 AM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Randy Bush said: > > > If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry, > > > so very sorry. Especially when it comes to v6. > > > > emacs! > > vim! > -- > Chris

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Brant Ian Stevens
sorry, but nano4lyfe! On 6/12/18 2:52 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Randy Bush said: If you start with Excel, down Will It Scale Road, you will be sorry, so very sorry. Especially when it comes to v6. emacs! vim!

Re: What are people using for IPAM these days?

2018-06-14 Thread Brian Jeggesen
Check out TIPP; http://tipp.tobez.org /Brian søn. 10. jun. 2018 kl. 22.51 skrev Mike Lyon : > Title says it all... Currently using IPPlan, but it is kinda antiquated.. > > Thanks, > Mike > > -- > Mike Lyon > mike.l...@gmail.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon >

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
re: Exa: Our use case was both on exporting service IPs as well as receiving routes from ToRs. Exa is more geared towards the former than the latter. Rather then working on getting imports and route installation through Exa, we found it simpler with BIRD exporting the service IP from it

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Pierre Emeriaud
2018-06-14 20:56 GMT+02:00 james jones : > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs > and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking > any other options before

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
there's actually a not insignificant part of the 'network device' world which is in fact just really a container and "quagga" (or similar). James, do you care about being close to a 'cisco like' config world? (quagga) more programmatic? (exa-bgp, gobgp .. a few others) something else? On Thu,

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Jörg Kost
Have a peak at https://osrg.github.io/gobgp/ and https://github.com/osrg/dockerfiles On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones wrote: > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs > and docs

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Max Tulyev
bird is better than quagga! (runs away) ;) 14.06.18 21:56, james jones пише: > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs > and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
This is generally in the context of routing-on-the-host setups. We're using BIRD for that in a kubernetes deployment. -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal On Thu 2018-Jun-14 13:05:58 -0600, Michael Crapse wrote: I agree, i hope

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread james jones
Yes, that's it. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:05 PM Michel 'ic' Luczak wrote: > > > On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones wrote: > > > > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best > > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot > blogs > >

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Scott Whyte
On 6/14/18 11:56 AM, james jones wrote: I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking any other options before I

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Crapse
I agree, i hope that this is for testing/testbench purposes only, or only running iBGP, as no one in the world would like for you to be running a public BGP through a docker instance. On 14 June 2018 at 13:00, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote: > >> I am working on

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Michel 'ic' Luczak
> On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:56, james jones wrote: > > I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best > option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs > and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking > any other

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Dovid Bender
I know of a telco that has been doing this it helps them be able to move around containers and not have constantly configure IP's on servers. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote: > >> I am working on an personal experiment and was

Re: BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 6/14/2018 12:56 PM, james jones wrote: I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking any other options before I

BGP in a containers

2018-06-14 Thread james jones
I am working on an personal experiment and was wondering what is the best option for running BGP in a docker base container. I have seen a lot blogs and docs referencing Quagga. I just want to make sure I am not over looking any other options before I dive in. Any thoughts or suggestions? -James