Re: L2VPN/L2transport, Cumulus Linux & hardware suggestion

2020-07-07 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Adam, On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Adam Thompson wrote: > Good luck with tunnelling LACP, no matter what boxes you have - LACP has (de > facto) hard jitter requirements of under 1msec, or you'll be getting TCP > resets coming out your ears due to mis-ordered packets. Can you elaborate on

Re: CGNAT Opensource with support to BPA, EIM/EIF, UPnP-PCP

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 8 Jul 2020, at 03:23, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG > wrote: > > Hi Douglas, > > There was, long time ago, something developed by ISC, but I think never > completed and not updated … ISC did a DS-LITE implementation called AFTR. This can be found at:

RE: CGNAT Opensource with support to BPA, EIM/EIF, UPnP-PCP

2020-07-07 Thread Tony Wicks
As someone who has spent quite a long time building CGNAT solutions I have some good news for you, there is an easy solution to your below point that works exceptionally well. The solution is dual stack IPv6, its trivial to route your IPv6 to bypass the CGNAT device you are using and pretty

AW: L2VPN/L2transport, Cumulus Linux & hardware suggestion

2020-07-07 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Dear Adam, yeah, forget about LACP - the bigger problem is all the LLDP and STP stuff, that gets interpreted at the UNI port. LACP is a bad example - but there are many other frames and protocols, which must work. Could be that a customer wants to run MPLS+LDP on his VLL (for whatever reason

RE: L2VPN/L2transport, Cumulus Linux & hardware suggestion

2020-07-07 Thread Adam Thompson
Good luck with tunnelling LACP, no matter what boxes you have - LACP has (de facto) hard jitter requirements of under 1msec, or you'll be getting TCP resets coming out your ears due to mis-ordered packets. For your requirements, although I hesitate to recommend them for enterprise/carrier use,

Anyone from Edgecast/ Verizon Digital on here

2020-07-07 Thread Rob See
Hi, We are having problems with traffic to Edgecast from our netblock getting TCP Reset. The big thing it seems to be causing problems with is Twitter. Anyone else experiencing this problem, and does anyone have a contact there ? Their tier 1 support didn't want to talk to us because we

L2VPN/L2transport, Cumulus Linux & hardware suggestion

2020-07-07 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
Dear folks, have anyone already tried to run VXLAN/EVPN + “Bridge Layer 2 Protocol Tunneling” on Cumulus Linux as an replacement for classic MPLS L2VPN/VPWS (“xconnect”, l2circuit, VLL) ? I need to provide transparent Ethernet P2P virtual leased lines to my customers and these have to support

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Watching the growth of terrestrial fiber (and PTP microwave) networks going inland from the west and east African coasts has been interesting. There's a big old C-band earth station on the hill above Freetown, Sierra Leone that was previously the capital's only link to the outside world. Obsoleted

pandemic stories about network ops/engineering

2020-07-07 Thread Mehmet Akcin
hey there, Millions of people working from home, I am sure there was a lot of hard work from network and systems teams to build and upgrade capacity before and during the covid19 pandemic. I have a youtube series I am focusing on internet infrastructure and new normal, I would like to discover

Re: CGNAT Opensource with support to BPA, EIM/EIF, UPnP-PCP

2020-07-07 Thread Jared Geiger
DANOS 2005 seems to support a lot of your requirements. https://danosproject.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAN/pages/320634926/DANOS+2005+Release+Notes So if you have an x86 box with supported NICS you should be able to get some decent performance from it. The major gotcha in this release is I think

RE: rfc4271 ORIGIN/path of default route, should the value be 0 or 2?

2020-07-07 Thread Drew Weaver
Okay, In my use case it's just a default route being distributed by a router that has the full routing table to an access router in the same ASN. It's not being sent to other ASNs or anything of that sort. I was just curious as to why Cisco sets it to internal and Arista sets it to invalid.

Re: CGNAT Opensource with support to BPA, EIM/EIF, UPnP-PCP

2020-07-07 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
Hi Douglas, There was, long time ago, something developed by ISC, but I think never completed and not updated … 464XLAT is always a solution and becomes much cheaper, than CGN from vendors, even if you need to replace the CPEs. I’m doing that now with 25.000.000 subscribers … (slowed

Re: rfc4271 ORIGIN/path of default route, should the value be 0 or 2?

2020-07-07 Thread Olivier Benghozi
Debatable, certainly, as the Origin attribute should probably be considered as dead/obsolete and therefore it is probably a good practice to always set/reset it to internal. A number of networks already do this (including level3 by example). After all, the origin attribute was only designed to

CGNAT Opensource with support to BPA, EIM/EIF, UPnP-PCP

2020-07-07 Thread Douglas Fischer
We are looking for a CGNAT solution open source based. Yep, I know that basic CGNAT can be done with iptables / nftables, or PF / IPFILTER / IPFW. But I only know Open Source CGNAT recipes with predefined public-ports <-> private IPs mapping. What It brings two types of issues: A - The need to

Re: Study on understanding email configuration quality

2020-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
You might want to check out the mailops mailing list as well, for people a bit more into email. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Tobias Fiebig" To: nanog@nanog.org

Study on understanding email configuration quality

2020-07-07 Thread Tobias Fiebig
Dear all, I am a researcher at TU Delft in the Netherlands, looking into Security & Protocol Adoption. My student Olamide is looking into how well email setups are maintained around the globe. For this, we need many people, ideally from smaller providers, i.e., with non gmail/hotmail/yahoo

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread j k
Any idea what network protocol(s) used with Starlink? On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 5:08 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 06:35, Harry McGregor > wrote: > > > Once the laser based inter-sat links are running (Starlink 2.0?), it > should be lower latency vs Fiber. > > I understood it's not

Re: rfc4271 ORIGIN/path of default route, should the value be 0 or 2?

2020-07-07 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > I don’t believe that it has a functionality impact but I would like to know > which one you think follows the RFC more closely. Debatable, but: Internal is more accurate if you redistribute default from routing protocol, such as static. Unknown is more accurate if you just generate it in

rfc4271 ORIGIN/path of default route, should the value be 0 or 2?

2020-07-07 Thread Drew Weaver
Howdy, I am using a multi-vendor network and validating the inter-operability. When I announce a default route to a BGP peer using default-originate applied to the peer group/neighbor configuration: in vendor A that route is sent with ORIGIN 0 (internal) in vendor B that route is sent with

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 06:35, Harry McGregor wrote: > Once the laser based inter-sat links are running (Starlink 2.0?), it should > be lower latency vs Fiber. I understood it's not clear if this will ever happen. In local constellation it might, but supposedly technology does not currently

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jul/20 10:07, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The most noteworthy thing I'm seeing in C band these days, is many > customers formerly 100% reliant upon it shifting their traffic to > newly built submarine fiber routes. Before most of Africa had submarine fibre, a lot of our traffic was carried on

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jul/20 08:51, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote: >   > And as Ku is often covering specific regions, often it means rainy > days for most transponder customers. > This is why in zones closer to equator, with their long-term monsoon, > C-Band was only option, > no idea about now. In much of

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The most noteworthy thing I'm seeing in C band these days, is many customers formerly 100% reliant upon it shifting their traffic to newly built submarine fiber routes. On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 11:51 PM Denys Fedoryshchenko < nuclear...@nuclearcat.com> wrote: > On 2020-07-07 08:32, Eric Kuhnke

Re: 60ms cross continent

2020-07-07 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
On 2020-07-07 08:32, Eric Kuhnke wrote: "no clouds" is overstating the effect somewhat. I've operated a number of mission critical Ku band based systems that met four nines of overall link uptime. The operational effect of a cloud that isn't an active downpour of rain is negligible. Continual