Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Further! Here's a page with about 25 dial-up ISPs in Ukraine: https://isp.today/en/list-of-all-services/UKRAINE,toic-14,c-1 If I go to www.ua.net, as one try, they list dial-up services and prices: http://www.ua.net/price/ediup.htm Looks current. The point being that dial-up internet

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

1. They don't have to wait or hope for a starlink terminal to arrive. They just have to dig out an old serial modem or system with one built in (they were common), find a phone line which will support that, and figure out how to get a dial-up account and use it. Like most of the world did ~20

Conflicts and fiber cuts

As the discussion rages on NANOG, RIPE, CENTR and many other uber-technical forums, I would like to see whether we can focus on what we know best - networking.  Perhaps a weekly report of fiber cuts throughout Europe (starting from Feb 15) and the RFO that the carrier provided.  Of especial

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

On Thu, 2022-03-03 at 01:12 -0500, b...@theworld.com wrote: > If Ukrainians wanted internet access and to get around blocking it'd > probably be more effective to dig out old serial modems and get PPP > dial-up accounts outside the country where phone service that will > support that still exists.

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

TBH I doubt Putin et al could care less about a handful of starlinks in Ukraine. They're each basically one uplink for one or maybe a few devices in a country of 44M. If they did care the easiest/cheapest thing to do would be for the Russians to sweep neighborhoods for starlink transmission

Re: Is soliciting money/rewards for 'responsible' security disclosures when none is stated a thing now?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 15:30:29 -0700, Brie said: > I just got this in my e-mail... > I am a web app security hunter. I spent some time on your website and found > some vulnerabilities. I see on your website you take security very > passionately. I've gotten similar spam a number of times over the

Re: Ukraine request yikes

It appears that Carsten Bormann said: >On 2. Mar 2022, at 17:38, wrote: >> >> “democracy” > >PSA: Please read > >https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/6206c37b9d9e380022bed32f/is-it-fascism-is-it-socialism/ > >before using words like this again. Nice article, definitely worth

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

.. is that a challenge? ;-) Its a high value target. Even the NSA had it's most critical tools leaked.someone somewhere is going to get a foot in the door at starlink, it's just a matter of time (money, or both...). On 3/2/22 5:27 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I'm aware of the qualifications

Re: Ukraine request yikes

On 2. Mar 2022, at 17:38, wrote: > > “democracy” PSA: Please read https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/peacefield/6206c37b9d9e380022bed32f/is-it-fascism-is-it-socialism/ before using words like this again. I hope this PSA is useful enough for minimizing “discussion" to warrant this

Re: Starlink terminal visual camouflage tests vs improvised fabric materials

Bravo! Data! Mike On 3/2/22 5:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I have just completed some very unscientific tests of DIY camouflage materials vs a starlink terminal. Obviously there is a lot of possible discussion that is possible about spectrum analyzers, direction finding, jammers, etc within

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

I'm aware of the qualifications and level of knowledge in network security/cryptography that they hire for positions in Redmond at Starlink R They are quite picky about who they hire. Highly doubt that anything that a 3rd party can do from outside of SpaceX's network is going to gain admin

Starlink terminal visual camouflage tests vs improvised fabric materials

I have just completed some very unscientific tests of DIY camouflage materials vs a starlink terminal. Obviously there is a lot of possible discussion that is possible about spectrum analyzers, direction finding, jammers, etc within the context of what's going on in Ukraine right now. All very

Re: Ukraine request yikes

On 3/2/22 16:15, Glen Turner wrote: Pretty much every nation has existing telecommunications laws with power for regulation to require telecommunications providers not to provide service to particular nation-states. Law written in an era where Russia military deployment and expansionary policy

Re: Anyone have contacts for Akamai GeoIP

Yup.. ping me with the details off-list - Jared > On Mar 2, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Christopher Munz-Michielin > wrote: > > Hey All, > > Hoping someone has a contact at Akamai who can assist. > > As part of my day job I run a DNS network and we've been having issues with > Akamai mis-locating

Re: Ukraine request yikes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There's no need for Ukraine to engage ICAAN to achieve its goals. Pretty much every nation has existing telecommunications laws with power for regulation to require telecommunications providers not to provide service to particular nation-states. Law

RE: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Invade America?… um, not even close to a thing From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2022 12:39 pm To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack starlink in space, they are going to

Anyone have contacts for Akamai GeoIP

Hey All, Hoping someone has a contact at Akamai who can assist. As part of my day job I run a DNS network and we've been having issues with Akamai mis-locating the geolocation of some of our revolvers.  The most egregious example is our resolver in Frankfurt being classified as Australian,

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

On Wed, 2022-03-02 at 15:39 -0800, Mike wrote: > You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack > starlink in space, they are going to take over it's command and > control functions and deorbit the entire constellation without firing > a shot. Gee, sure hope the master password

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

You guys are missing the obvious. Russia isn't going to attack starlink in space, they are going to take over it's command and control functions and deorbit the entire constellation without firing a shot. Same for China and N. Korea, which both already have ample motivation already to go after

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

As I'm reading this - I'm reminded that you don't need to destroy a satellite to render it ineffective - just fill up the frequencies it's Tx/Rx on with so much RFI that the pipe no longer bends. It's not as if the frequencies and sat positions aren't public knowledge... - Thomas Scott |

Re: Is soliciting money/rewards for 'responsible' security disclosures when none is stated a thing now?

Better known as Beg Bounties. https://www.troyhunt.com/beg-bounties/ It's a thing. On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 09:32, Brie wrote: > > I just got this in my e-mail... > > -- > From: xxx > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 03:14:03 +0500 > Message-ID: > Subject: Found Security Vulnerability > To:

Is soliciting money/rewards for 'responsible' security disclosures when none is stated a thing now?

I just got this in my e-mail... -- From: xxx Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 03:14:03 +0500 Message-ID: Subject: Found Security Vulnerability To: undisclosed-recipients:; Bcc: sxx...@ahbl.org Hi Team I am a web app security hunter. I spent some time on your website and found some

Re: RIR IRR interfaces

I hope more IRRs deploying IRRd 4.2 or later will increase API support and API similarity among IRRs. TC is one IRR actively supporting those APIs, which have both RPSL format and JSON format options (although the request itself is a JSON object regardless of format). Rubens On Wed, Mar 2, 2022

RIR IRR interfaces

I wonder, do the RIR's "talk" to each other about UI? I'm in the middle of duplicating (moving) a bunch of route objects from 3rd party IRRdbs to the appropriate RIR ones, which, so far, has meant creating route objects in the RIRs run by APNIC, ARIN, and RIPE. User experience-wise, I'm sad

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

The Russians have several ASAT systems not all of them are ground based. Remember they also have that grappler which locks onto satellites and destroys them. I think this conflict will be the first one where some of the battles will be fought in orbit ie the ultimate ‘high ground’ the NATO

Re: Ukraine request yikes

It appears that Daniel Suchy via NANOG said: >It's also technically possible to perform full AXFR from some official >root-server (it's allowed on some instances) and bring your own >root-server locally-anycasted instance anywhere you want. It's not just possible, it's quite common. See RFC

Re: Ukraine request yikes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 3/2/22 11:57 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > There is a reason that the US Government was developing and promulgating > things like TOR, for a while. Turns out if you run 2/3 of the tor nodes, you can unmask people. Governments are not capable of

RE: Ukraine request yikes

The problem with all of these sorts of things and why respectable entities like ICANN should avoid such things is because its inherently subjective and prone to a sort of viewers bias that is moulded more or less by the propaganda of the state from which you come (in our case, North America/US

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

On 3/2/22 9:32 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said: Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill, and SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up Yes, Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a

Re: Ukraine request yikes

On 3/2/22 8:53 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: My (unpopular opinion) Russia does not deserve any amenities of the modern world.  They have made their bed and now they have to sleep in it. I think it's very important to differentiate between Russia as the governmental entity and Russia as the body of

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:51:05 -0500, Dorn Hetzel said: > Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill, and > SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up Yes, > Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio. Plus the asymmetry is even

Re: Ukraine request yikes

Anybody remember the days when: - News of the USSR's fall was leaking out over USENET? - Folks were live posting from gas-proofed rooms in Israel, during one of the wars? There is a reason that the US Government was developing and promulgating things like TOR, for a while.  Kind of useless

Re: Ukraine request yikes

That's a valid argument. And no I don't think ISPs, ICANN, or any other organization should get involved in political disputes. Where Russia has crossed the line, though, is in the way they are handling the situation. You bomb/attack government buildings/communication

Re: Ukraine request yikes

On 3/2/22 10:54, Matt Hoppes wrote: [External Email] Information sharing should increase on the ATTACKED side... it should DECREASE and be cut off on the non-provoked attacker's side. Trouble is, that leads to two deleterious effects in this case: 1) The rest of the world is left with just

Re: Ukraine request yikes

Information sharing should increase on the ATTACKED side... it should DECREASE and be cut off on the non-provoked attacker's side. On 3/1/22 3:53 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 12:19 AM George Herbert > wrote: Posted by Bill Woodcock

Re: Ukraine request yikes

My (unpopular opinion) Russia does not deserve any amenities of the modern world. They have made their bed and now they have to sleep in it. On 3/1/22 3:16 AM, George Herbert wrote: Posted by Bill Woodcock on Twitter… https://twitter.com/woodyatpch/status/1498472865301098500?s=21

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

> > So they’re going to offer the service to anyone in a denied area for free > somehow? How do you send someone a bill or how do they pay it if you can’t > do business in the country? > There is a difference between a country allowing SpaceX to install a ground station in their territory, and

Re: Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

Yeah, if Russia needs one 1st stage booster for every bird they kill, and SpaceX needs one 1st stage booster for every 50 they put up Yes, Russia is bigger than SpaceX, but that's a tremendous ratio. On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 6:03 PM Matthew Petach wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:59 AM