Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

A decade ago I recall Globalstar, yet another LEO phone service, had been trying to work out a partnership with a terrestrial carrier that could use their spectrum allotment. It was purely a business move. Nothing technical about it. Spectrum is valuable, and they were trying to find a way to

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

It's DirecTV that became part of AT, but now they're separated again. Dish Network is building a nation-wide terrestrial mobile network. Supposed to be the new #4 provider. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

> On Jun 24, 2022, at 13:12 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 6/24/22 12:38 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >>> On Jun 24, 2022, at 12:33 , Michael Thomas wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/22 9:09 AM, Chris Wright wrote: The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

On 6/24/22 12:38 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jun 24, 2022, at 12:33 , Michael Thomas wrote: On 6/24/22 9:09 AM, Chris Wright wrote: The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance was

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 12:38 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > Frankly, I really don’t think that Dish’s idea of providing 5G mobile service > from satellites is a particularly good or beneficial one and granting them > 12Ghz spectrum for this purpose is probably not really in the public

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

> On Jun 24, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > It’s not entirely clear, without knowing the technical details of the > Starlink modulation scheme whether or not they could successfully share the > 12Ghz spectrum. > > I have no reason to disbelieve their claims. Exactly.

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

> On Jun 24, 2022, at 12:33 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 6/24/22 9:09 AM, Chris Wright wrote: >> The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined >> over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance >> was never well understood in the

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

On 6/24/22 9:09 AM, Chris Wright wrote: The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like CNN. This is a battle for

Re: Help with broken routing in MTL (AS577 174 11647) Bell, Cogent, Me

Looks to be fixed as of ~ 14:55 Eastern.     ---Mike On 6/24/2022 1:49 PM, mike tancsa wrote: We noticed random traffic originating from AS577 stopped getting to our ASN via Cogent in Montreal at around 00:24 this morning. Based on the pattern I am guessing a broken next hop on one leg of a

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 9:09 AM Chris Wright wrote: > This is a battle for 12GHz, not 5G. It's a battle to use 12Ghz for 5G cell phone tech instead of the satellite tech it was allocated for. You could drop the 5G from that sentence and still be correct but nobody has proposed using 4G or

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

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Help with broken routing in MTL (AS577 174 11647) Bell, Cogent, Me

We noticed random traffic originating from AS577 stopped getting to our ASN via Cogent in Montreal at around 00:24 this morning. Based on the pattern I am guessing a broken next hop on one leg of a larger link ?  e.g. IP traffic leaving AS577 towards IP addresses in one of my /19s will 100%

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:06 AM Chris Wright wrote: > > The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined > over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance > was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like > CNN.

RE: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like CNN. This is a battle for 12GHz, not 5G. Chris -Original

Re: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

I use Comcast Business for my primary at home, but it is so bad that I was forced to get Starlink as backup. I am not in a city, but close enough that there would be issues. ><> nathan stratton On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 9:47 PM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Eric Kuhnke said: > >Adding a

ATT SWIP

Looking for someone within the ATT org that can SWIP some of their IPs to an ISP. Currently we are not getting responses from ipapplicat...@att.com. Please feel free to contact me off-list  [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network

RE: Verizon no BGP route to some of AS38365 (182.61.200.0/24)

From my limited vantage point it appears that there is some issue between Verizon & Baidu. Baidu has 182.61.0.0/16 registered, but is only advertising pieces of it globally (or at least from what I can see). In our tables,we are receiving none from Verizon of the subnets that are advertised