That’s because symmetrical latency like you see on a satellite connection isn’t an issue at all for audio, it’s the variation or jitter that may cause issues.ShaneOn Sep 21, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:Artifacts in audio are a product of packet loss or jitter resulting in codec issues
On 9/21/23 3:31 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:28 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
My understanding has always been that 30ms was set based on human
perceptibility. 30ms was the average point at which the average person could
start to detect artifacts in the audio.
Hi Tom,
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:34 PM William Herrin wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:28 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> > My understanding has always been that 30ms was set based on human
> perceptibility. 30ms was the average point at which the average person
> could start to detect artifacts in the
Thank you all for your answers here, on the poll itself, and for
papers like this one. The consensus seems to be settling around 30ms for
VOIP with a few interesting outliers and viewpoints.
https://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043=cs_theses
Something that came up in reading
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:28 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> My understanding has always been that 30ms was set based on human
> perceptibility. 30ms was the average point at which the average person could
> start to detect artifacts in the audio.
Hi Tom,
Jitter doesn't necessarily cause artifacts in
Artifacts in audio are a product of packet loss or jitter resulting in
codec issues issues leading to human subject perceptible audio anomalies,
not so much latency by itself. Two way voice is remarkably NOT terrible on
a 495ms RTT satellite based two-way geostationary connection as long as
there
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:56 AM Jim wrote:
...
> My understanding is a good number of password manager products exists which
> will handle that,
> and then the only AAA which network devices need to be concerned about for
> Authentication and
> Authorization is Basic password auth, which
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:40 AM Simon Leinen wrote:
>
> Christopher Morrow writes:
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jim wrote:
> >>
> >> Router operating systems still typically use only passwords with
> >> SSH, then those devices send the passwords over that insecure channel. I
> >> have
My understanding has always been that 30ms was set based on human
perceptibility. 30ms was the average point at which the average person
could start to detect artifacts in the audio.
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:13 PM Dave Taht wrote:
> Dear nanog-ers:
>
> I go back many, many years as to baseline
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 4:40 AM Simon Leinen wrote:
>
> Ahem... Cisco supports SSH authentication using *X.509* certificates.
> Unfortunately this is not compatible with OpenSSH (the dominant SSH
>
It's not a great solution, but it is certainly a solution.
The feature exists for some
Christopher Morrow writes:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jim wrote:
>>
>> Router operating systems still typically use only passwords with
>> SSH, then those devices send the passwords over that insecure channel. I
>> have yet to
>> see much in terms of routers capable to Tacacs+ Authorize
>
> Looks like codecs still are rapidly evolving in walled gardens. I just learned
> about 'Satin'.
>
Yeah
There are also some opensourced like lyra from google with v2 released last
year.
https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/09/lyra-v2-a-better-faster-and-more-versatile-speech-codec.html
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