Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-02 Thread Daniel Senie
Ingress filtering is the correct tool for the job. The whole point here is that packets are coming from somewhere they should not, and they are thus spoofed. The tools have been in place to deal with this for a very long time now. The drafts that became RFC 2267 (precursor of RFC 2827 / BCP38)

Re: Vyatta as a BRAS

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Senie
On Jul 13, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Greg Whynott wrote: They are all software based, no matter who builds them. Cisco IOS, Juniper JunOS, etc. controlling hardware asic's and fpga's. Which are in essence software burned into chips. They can provide some acceleration, but will the next

Re: POE switches and lightning

2010-05-13 Thread Daniel Senie
While the equipment may well be affected by an EM pulse, if the gear returns to normal after a power cycle, then the equipment vendor didn't do their job fully developing the product. A product should be tested to take such pulses and should recover provided it has not suffered a catastrophic

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Senie
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: While I think this is an improvement, unless the distribution of ULA-C is no cheaper and no easier to get than GUA, I still think there is reason to believe that it

Re: Mail Submission Protocol

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel Senie
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Dan White wrote: On 21/04/10 10:49 -0300, Claudio Lapidus wrote: Hello all, At our ISP operation, we are seeing increasing levels of traffic in our outgoing MTA's, presumably due to spammers abusing some of our subscribers' accounts. In fact, we are seeing

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Senie
On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2010-04-20, at 15:31, Roger Marquis wrote: If this were really an issue I'd expect my nieces and nephews, all of whom are big game players, would have mentioned it. They haven't though, despite being behind cheap NATing CPE from

Re: [Re: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-hain-ipv6-ulac-01]

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Senie
I see a need for stable, permanent blocks of addresses within an organization. For example, a branch office connecting to a central office over VPN: firewall rules need to be predictable. If the branch office' IPv6 block changes, much access will break. This is directly analogous to how RFC1918

Time for a lounge mailing list

2010-03-31 Thread Daniel Senie
It's been clear for a very long time that the NANOG crowd likes to socialize. At NANOGs, social settings are where connections are made, beers consumed, sometimes scuba dives shared or other local attractions explored. It is certainly a good thing, and fosters much useful discussion among peers

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-22 Thread Daniel Senie
On Mar 22, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Stan Barber wrote: In this case, I am talking about an IPv6-IPv6 NAT analogue to the current IPv4-IPv4 NAT that is widely used with residential Internet service delivery today. I believe that with IPv6 having much larger pool of addresses and each

Re: Using private APNIC range in US

2010-03-18 Thread Daniel Senie
On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Fred Baker wrote: Are they using them only within their domain(s), and ARIN addresses outside, or are they advertising them to their upstream(s) to be readvertised into the backbone? If they are using them

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-10 Thread Daniel Senie
Well, it's like this... there's still no native IPv6 connectivity in most data centers, residences, businesses or wireless, most vendors of networking equipment have not had a lot of mileage on their IPv6 code if they even have it fully working, and, frankly, the IPv6 community has been

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-02-26 Thread Daniel Senie
From what I've read, they may well get higher bandwidth out to the town centers on fiber. There has been little discussion of how to distribute from there. I suppose Verizon, the only company offering anything out there, will take advantage and use the fiber to improve speeds in the centers of

Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

2010-02-26 Thread Daniel Senie
@nanog.org Subject: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Daniel Senie d...@senie.com wrote: Better than western Massachusetts, where there's just no connectivity at = all. Even dialup fails to function over crappy lines. Hmm. Although I've never been to Western MA

Re: ISP in Johannesburg in Southdafrika

2010-02-25 Thread Daniel Senie
Better than western Massachusetts, where there's just no connectivity at all. Even dialup fails to function over crappy lines. I'd take monopoly pricing over no connectivity, I guess. On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Internet connectivity here in 'deepest darkest Africa' is

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-20 Thread Daniel Senie
On Feb 20, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Scott Howard wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: Barracuda's engineers apparently think that using SPF stops backscatter -- and it most emphatically does

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-20 Thread Daniel Senie
On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 08:20:36PM -0500, William Herrin wrote: Whine all you want about backscatter but until you propose a comprehensive solution that's still reasonably compatible with RFC 2821's section 3.7 you're just talking trash.

Re: Using /126 for IPv6 router links

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Senie
On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: For me, the entire debate boils down to this question. What should the objective be, decades or centuries? If centuries, how many planets and moons will the address space cover? (If we as a species manages to spread beyond this world before we

Re: Cogent Outage?

2010-01-14 Thread Daniel Senie
On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:53 PM, John Payne wrote: On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Kevin Loch wrote: Ketan Mangal wrote: Yes there is a Newyork to Philadelphia fiber cut is there It might not be an outage it might be high latency due to multiple routes going out via there buffalo POP. That

Re: DNS question, null MX records

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Senie
I disagree. There was considerable concern with a misuse of a mechanism and its effect on various systems. That, from discussion on the IETF mailing list I was on when it was discussed there. There was no rough consensus that I could see. On Dec 15, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Tony Finch wrote: On

Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband

2009-08-28 Thread Daniel Senie
On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Jack Bates wrote: Robert E. Seastrom wrote: The problem is that if you break down the costs, you'll find out that it almost doesn't matter what you put in as a cost of the total build; the big costs are the engineering and the labor to install, not the cost of

Re: Verizon EVDO Issues

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel Senie
On Apr 9, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us writes: I have a few Sprint EVDO cards. They go into standby when nothing is actively going on and fire up within seconds when there is something to do. I regularly use everything from SSH to streaming

Re: IPv6 Confusion

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Senie
by this thread is a simple observation: Engineers make lousy salespeople. -- - Daniel Senied...@senie.com Amaranth Networks Inc.http://www.amaranth.com Kindness

Re: v6 DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)]

2009-02-06 Thread Daniel Senie
developers can find useful information on how to avoid problems. -- - Daniel Senied...@senie.com Amaranth Networks Inc.http://www.amaranth.com Kindness in words creates

Re: Sprint / Cogent dispute over?

2008-11-03 Thread Daniel Senie
At 06:54 PM 11/2/2008, Daniel Roesen wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 04:40:20PM -0500, Randy Epstein wrote: Problem resolved? https://www.sprint.net/cogent.php Reading this accounting of Sprint's side of the story reveals something that's not too surprising about Sprint. They've got serious

RE: routing around Sprint's depeering damage

2008-11-02 Thread Daniel Senie
At 09:33 AM 11/2/2008, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Rod Beck wrote: It is a short term issue that probably doesn't merit government intervention The only government intervention I can imagine as being productive would be to mandate what the Internet is, and if someone is

RE: Sprint / Cogent

2008-11-01 Thread Daniel Senie
At 01:20 PM 10/31/2008, Randy Epstein wrote: If you haven't already seen it, the great Todd Underwood of Renesys published an article today on his blog regarding this subject: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/10/wrestling-with-the-zombie-spri.shtml Just read through Todd's blog posting. Since

Re: IPv6 Wow

2008-10-12 Thread Daniel Senie
At 06:05 PM 10/12/2008, Nathan Ward wrote: On 13/10/2008, at 9:53 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: This brings up an interesting question, should we stop announcing our 6to4 relays outside of Europe? Is there consensus in the business how this should be done? I have heard

Re: Cisco interface - GB of transfer software

2008-09-30 Thread Daniel Senie
At 11:08 AM 9/30/2008, Charles Wyble wrote: I like to use ntop (from ntop.org) for this, along with MRTG. Others prefer cacti. I found MRTG easier to setup. It comes down to personal preference. MRTG provides graphs of usage, but I'm not aware of it providing a monthly total usage (or 95%

Re: ingress SMTP

2008-09-03 Thread Daniel Senie
At 12:48 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote: Do you operate your mailserver on a residential cablemodem or adsl rather than a business account? No, we co-lo equipment at a professional facility that our customers on any type of connection need to have access to send mail through, regardless of whether

Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

2007-10-19 Thread Daniel Senie
At 03:10 PM 10/19/2007, John C. A. Bambenek wrote: I love how the framed it as data discrimination. Let's just be honest... 99% of it was illegal traffic taking up far more than their fair share of bandwidth. Let's be honest. The US ISPs have been advertising unlimited service, but

Re: 240/4

2007-10-16 Thread Daniel Senie
At 02:29 PM 10/16/2007, Pekka Savola wrote: On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Alain Durand wrote: Classifying it as private use should come with the health warning use this at your own risk, this stuff can blow up your network. In other words, this is for experimental use only. Do we need to classify

Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

2007-10-03 Thread Daniel Senie
At 04:07 PM 10/2/2007, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 2-okt-2007, at 16:53, Mark Newton wrote: By focussing on the mechanics of inbound NAT traversal, you're ignoring the fact that applications work regardless. Web, VoIP, P2P utilities, games, IM, Google Earth, you name it, it works. O

Re: Creating demand for IPv6, and saving the planet

2007-10-03 Thread Daniel Senie
At 08:04 PM 10/3/2007, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake Daniel Senie [EMAIL PROTECTED] A number of people have bemoaned the lack of any IPv6-only killer-content that would drive a demand for IPv6. I've thought about this, and about the government's push to make IPv6 a reality. What occurred

Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

2007-10-02 Thread Daniel Senie
At 09:13 AM 10/2/2007, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 2-okt-2007, at 15:05, Adrian Chadd wrote: Please explain how you plan on getting rid of those protocol-aware plugins when IPv6 is widely deployed in environments with -stateful firewalls-. You just open up a hole in the firewall where

Re: Security gain from NAT (was: Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff)

2007-06-04 Thread Daniel Senie
At 03:20 PM 6/4/2007, Jim Shankland wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:32:39 PDT, Jim Shankland said: *No* security gain? No protection against port scans from Bucharest? No protection for a machine that is used in practice only on the local, office LAN? Or to