Re: Wanted: volunteers with bandwidth/storage to help save climate data

I guess at long last it is time for Larry to stop thinking there was a common interest here. NANOG has gone completely into the weeds (my email client treats it as political spam). Sad--once upon a time it was a home for science in an insane academic world. -- "Everybody is a genius. But

Re: OT: "Read Receipts"

I avoided the other off charter bait, but this is a red dot to me. On 11/6/2016 19:59, Patrick wrote: Over at Language Hat, they are trying to establish the common pronunciation of "read receipts" [1] To me, they've always just been "DSNs" or "MDNs", however, according to rfc2298, their

Re: Help interpret a strange traceroute?

On 10/31/2016 14:42, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Randy wrote: Any idea how a traceroute (into my network) could end up this fubar'd? Discovered this wierd routing while investigating horrendously slow speeds (albeit no packet loss) to a particular

Re: CenturyLink in Advanced Talks to Merge With Level 3 Communications - Interweb is doomed

On 10/27/2016 12:36, Nevin Gonsalves via NANOG wrote: :-) http://www.wsj.com/articles/centurylink-in-advanced-talks-to-merge-with-level-3-communications-1477589011 OH BOY! Omaha Taxpayers get to replace all the BGSs for their party venue boondoggle. Again.

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

On 10/25/2016 08:26, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:53:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Recent events, like the Krebs DDoS and the even bigger OVH DDoS, and today's events make it perfectly clear to even the most blithering of blithering idiots that network operators,

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

On 10/23/2016 21:02, David Conrad wrote: Shut down subnets of your own customers? That was the problem I broke my pick on 20 years or more ago. ISPs absolute refusal to put in filters at no-revenue-expense since it would cost money to install and maintain, and worst of all MIGHT

Re: A perl script to convert Cisco IOS/Nexus/ASA configurations to HTML for easier comprehension

On 10/6/2016 15:26, Jesse McGraw wrote: (This is me scratching an itch of my own and hoping that sharing it might be useful to others on this list. Apologies if it isn't) When I'm trying to comprehend a new or complicated Cisco router, switch or firewall configuration an old pet-peeve of

Re: Legislative proposal sent to my Congressman

On 10/3/2016 13:58, Stephen Satchell wrote: In thinking over the last DDos involving IoT devices, I think we don't have a good technical solution to the problem. Cutting off people with defective devices they they don't understand, and have little control over, is an action that makes sense,

Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses

On 9/18/2016 16:26, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 9/18/2016 08:19, Mike Hammett wrote: People love to hate incumbent telcos because of their arrogance (and frankly it's deserved), but people forget that big content can be just as arrogant and just as deserving of hatred. I never did see

Re: PlayStationNetwork blocking of CGNAT public addresses

On 9/18/2016 08:19, Mike Hammett wrote: People love to hate incumbent telcos because of their arrogance (and frankly it's deserved), but people forget that big content can be just as arrogant and just as deserving of hatred. I never did see the benefit or the approach. To anybody. --

Re: One more thing to watch out for at data centers - fire drills

On 9/17/2016 07:39, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-loud-sound-just-shut-down-a-banks-data-center-for-10-hours?utm_source=bbcfb Releasing inert gas from fire suppression units that were over pressurized resulted in an extremely loud noise My experience is

Re: Don't press the big red buttom on the wall!

On 8/30/2016 15:46, b...@theworld.com wrote: About the worst that ever happened to me was a security guy's walkie-talkie setting off an instant Halon drop. Cost about $10,000 to refill and was fairly exciting for those present. That also cut the machine room's power. At least it didn't set

Re: Don't press the big red buttom on the wall!

On 8/30/2016 09:40, Keith Stokes wrote: At one point in one data center I dealt with a disgruntled employee hit the UPS disconnect button on the way out. Same story, procedures modified, cover put over switch with a hammer to break the glass, lessons learned, accounts credited. A very long

Re: Handling of Abuse Complaints

On 8/29/2016 11:47, Steve Atkins wrote: Unless your abuse / security desk is staffed by lawyers it's probably better to avoid words like "criminal" and "unlawfully" altogether and stick to "in violation of our ToS". Or "in violation of your contract (which includes, by reference, our TOS)

Re: Zayo Extortion

On 8/16/2016 21:13, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Jonathan Hall wrote: if I’m not mistaken (don’t worry, I’m not) - this doesn’t count as ‘slander’ in any way, shape or form. Jonathan, Technically you're right, but not for the reason you

Re: Zayo Extortion

On 8/15/2016 07:29, Mike Hammett wrote: Try more facts and less emotion. I remember a day when I was banned from NANOG of less emotion and lots more factual content. - Original Message - From: "HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG" Red-flag line. [much snippage has occurred] A

Re: Google.com redirecting to Google.co.in

On 7/29/2016 10:02, Vikash Sorout via NANOG wrote: blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hi All, When I am trying to hit Google.com it's redirecting me to

Re: cloudflare hosting a ddos service?

On 7/26/2016 21:19, jim deleskie wrote: Back in the day didn't we refer to such hosting as bulletproof hosting? Not HERE! NANA-E, sure. -- "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." --Albert

Re: NAT firewall for IPv6?

On 7/5/2016 18:46, Matt Palmer wrote: On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 09:28:54PM -0500, Edgar Carver wrote: Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator since she is on vacation. Luckily, I minored in Computer Science so I have some familiarity. Well played, Tay. Well

Re: NAT firewall for IPv6?

My how the world has changed! On 7/1/2016 21:28, Edgar Carver wrote: Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator since she is on vacation. I am Old School, I guess. In my day Step One would be "Fire the administrator." The job is by nature a 24 X 7 X 52 job and

Re: NAT firewall for IPv6?

My how the world has changed! On 7/1/2016 21:28, Edgar Carver wrote: Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator since she is on vacation. I am Old School, I guess. In my day Step One would be "Fire the administrator." The job is by nature a 24 X 7 X 52 job and

Re: Do people even read these? Re: BGP Update Report

You did. -- "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." --Albert Einstein From Larry's Cox account.

Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

On 6/4/2016 13:38, Owen DeLong wrote: If you’re wife is really worried about $100/year, give up your first 2 weeks of Starbucks each year in trade. My wife does very well in managing our sparse resources (in spite of the efforts of the government and the Jesuits) and (I suspect) would not

Re: rfc 1812 third party address on traceroute

I am completely innocent of rfc1812, and have been out of the game for a long time, but I am pretty sure I was taught (and in turn taught) that a router would reply using the address of the interface that originated the reply unless that interface was unnumbered, in which case it would reply

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/20/2016 10:15, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: On 2016-04-20 10:52, Owen DeLong wrote: For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing of the past and at least one mobile carrier now treats

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 15:10, Larry Sheldon wrote: We wrote off a lot of revenue on calls that involved a company (if I remembered the name I still would not repeat it--ditto its location) which turn out to be pretty much one man who like to sell and install mobile radio telephone stations

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote: On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine wrote: If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 10:45, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: . So maybe 10% of all cell phones are primarly used in the "wrong" area? Obligatory xkcd ref: https://xkcd.com/1129/ I am reminded of incidents many years ago when I

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/14/2016 10:32, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:29:39AM -, John Levine wrote: The people on nanog are not typical. I looked around for statistics and didn't find much, but it looks like only a few percent of numbers are ported each month, and it's

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/13/2016 15:12, Owen DeLong wrote: I guarantee you that many, if not most at this point, of those numbers are no longer actually handled by that switch most of the time. I suspect that there are more SS7 exceptions than default within that particular prefix which is why I chose it. I

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/13/2016 14:45, John R. Levine wrote: NANP geographical numbers can be located to a switch (give or take number portability within a LATA), but non-geographic numbers can really go anywhere. On the third hand, it's still true that the large majority of them are in the U.S. Would you agree

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/12/2016 08:31, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 03:10:44PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: If GeoIP insists on giving a specific lon/lat, instead of an uncertaintity how about using locations such as the followign as the "default I don't know where it is"

Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

On 4/11/2016 11:55, Chris Boyd wrote: Interesting article. http://fusion.net/story/287592/internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm/ An hour’s drive from Wichita, Kansas, in a little town called Potwin, there is a 360-acre piece of land with a very big problem. The plot has been owned by the

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

On 3/25/2016 09:39, Bryan Bradsby wrote: Uggghhh. I've always hated this 'reboot, see if it fixes it' methodology. If the CPEs can't recover from error conditions correctly, they shouldn't be used. I blame Microsoft for making this concept acceptable. Chuck I was getting 20% TCP packet

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

Research and Education Network 2029 Becker Drive, Suite 282 Lawrence, KS 66047 (785)856-9820 ext 9809 cruss...@kanren.net <mailto:cruss...@kanren.net> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Wayne Bouchard <w...@typo.org <mailto:w...@typo.org>> wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2016

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

On 3/21/2016 12:06, Chuck Church wrote: Uggghhh. I've always hated this 'reboot, see if it fixes it' methodology. If the CPEs can't recover from error conditions correctly, they shouldn't be used. I blame Microsoft for making this concept acceptable. LOL. Any trouble case that does NOT

Re: Oh dear, we've all been made redundant...

On 3/19/2016 18:16, Warren Kumari wrote: Found on Staple's website: http://www.staples.com/NetReset-Automated-Power-Cycler-for-Modems-and-Routers/product_1985686 Fixes all issues, less downtime, less stress... etc... ... ...and so forth .

Re: About inetnum "ownership"

On 3/2/2016 08:05, Bob Evans wrote: The numbers (IP addresses) are not the field. The servers are the field. The numbers are the street addresses of the server. Domain names would be a nick name for the numbers, like PaddingHouse.com is at 55.51.52.1. The BGP table is a road map. That's why it

Re: Standard terminology for a dark fiber path?

On 2/24/2016 14:55, Fletcher Kittredge wrote: What is the standard terminology for strands of dark fiber spliced together to form a continuous path between points A and Z? I have seen: - *fiber circuit* [but also seen used to denote a connection at the network layer over a physical

Re: Is it normal for your provider to withhold BGP peering info until the night of the cut?

On 1/21/2016 15:33, Kraig Beahn wrote: "This carrier said that they don't provide this until the night of the cut." / "Is this a common SOP nowadays?" - Not in our experience. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:26 PM, c b wrote: We have 4 full-peering providers between two

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

On 1/12/2016 03:47, Marc Storck wrote: Today the situation cleared on it’s own as it appears. (at least I haven’t been notified of any human action) Ancient wire-line telephone and telegraph (aka "data" in the latter days) technology, trouble ticket code "CCWT" ("Came Clear While Testing").

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

ired of writing up the sad and detailed story every day and had started reporing them as "AFU"-- she wanted to know what "AFU" meant. I told her it meant "All Fouled Up", where upon she picked up another stack, also mine, marked "NFG". I told her those

Re: Looking for Yahoo eMail contact

On 1/12/2016 19:04, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 1/12/2016 15:15, Jonathan Smith wrote: Wait I thought that was NTF, (No Trouble Found), as it magically cleared up. Amazing what was/is done to avoid reporting issues/problems to the PUC or the like. "NTF" is valid only if the reported

Re: http://rtros.nop.hu/

On 1/1/2016 02:40, Randy Bush wrote: opinions? yep. do not click on strange urls. ESPECIALLY when they: Reek of malevolence Have no reason given for why I might be interested in seeing the contents. Are from somebody and someplace that I have never hear of before. -- sed quis custodiet

Re: Broadband Router Comparisons

On 12/27/2015 19:56, Mike wrote: On 12/27/15, 4:57 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/26/2015 23:49, Mike wrote: [snip] Firstly, they are all junk. Every last one of them. Period. Broadband routers are designed to be cheap and to appeal to people who don't know any better, and who respond well

Re: Broadband Router Comparisons

On 12/26/2015 23:49, Mike wrote: On 12/23/2015 06:49 PM, Lorell Hathcock wrote: All: Not all consumer grade customer premises equipment is created equally. But end customers sure think it is. I have retirement aged customers buying the crappiest routers and then blaming my cable network for

Re: Broadband Router Comparisons

On 12/27/2015 02:19, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2015 08:37:25 +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson said: If someone like Consumer Reports or similar agency started testing and rating devices on these things like long-time support, automatic updates, software quality etc, and not just

Re: Broadband Router Comparisons

On 12/26/2015 23:49, Mike wrote: [snip] Firstly, they are all junk. Every last one of them. Period. Broadband routers are designed to be cheap and to appeal to people who don't know any better, and who respond well (eg: make purchasing decisions) based on the shape of the plastic, the color

Re: reliably detecting the presence of a bridge?

On 12/19/2015 12:17, William Herrin wrote: [snip] I recommend you stop using the word "bridge." I think see where you're heading with it, but I think you're chasing a blind alley which encourages a false mental model of how layer 2 networks function. You came here for answers. This is one of

Re: reliably detecting the presence of a bridge?

On 12/19/2015 16:53, James R Cutler wrote: [snip] But I still have one question (which might be based on errors)-- I think I have used WiFi terminals ("air ports", "WiFi routers" [spit]) that offer a "bridge" mode, apparently to build a dedicated radio link between two such terminals. Are

Re: reliably detecting the presence of a bridge?

On 12/19/2015 17:15, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 12/19/2015 16:53, James R Cutler wrote: [snip] But I still have one question (which might be based on errors)-- I think I have used WiFi terminals ("air ports", "WiFi routers" [spit]) that offer a "bridge" mode, a

Re: Nat

On 12/16/2015 18:14, Mel Beckman wrote: Mark, Why? Why do WE "need" to force people to bend to our will? The market will get us all there eventually. I don't like what you eat. Lets put a surcharge on it to make you feel pain and do what I want. :) That's what I'm talking about. But this IS

Re: Nat

On 12/16/2015 17:28, Mark Andrews wrote: +100 Nobody should have to be doing NAT today. We need to make IPv4 painful to use. Adding delay between SYN and SYN/ACK would be one way to achieve this. Start at 100ms..200ms and increase it by 100ms each year. If it is such a good idea, why

Re: Nat

On 12/16/2015 19:22, Randy Bush wrote: We need to put some pain onto everyone that is IPv4 only. this is the oppress the workers so they will revolt theory. load of crap. make ipv6 easier to deploy, especially in enterprise. repeat the previous sentence 42 times. what keeps the cows in the

Re: Devices with only USB console port - Need a Console Server Solution

On 12/7/2015 16:15, Erik Sundberg wrote: We have one of these nice new and fancy Cisco ASR920-24SZ, just realized it doesn't have an RJ45 Console port only USB. I am always surprised at people who unpack new toys that somebody paid a lot of money for only to find at that late date that the

Re: Modem as a service?

On 12/6/2015 16:17, Karl Auer wrote: On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 16:36 -0500, James R Cutler wrote: On Dec 6, 2015, at 2:19 PM, James Laszko wrote: ... we don’t need to actually connect to the OOB modem on the other side, we just need a NO ANSWER/ANSWER kind of response. …

Re: DNSSEC and ISPs faking DNS responses

On 11/14/2015 16:48, Roland Dobbins wrote: On 15 Nov 2015, at 2:25, John Levine wrote: They have point'n'click apps for all the usual platforms. They are not defaults. I think that many people on this list don't understand that the vast majority of users around the world do not know what a

Re: DNSSEC and ISPs faking DNS responses

On 11/14/2015 16:56, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 11/14/2015 16:48, Roland Dobbins wrote: On 15 Nov 2015, at 2:25, John Levine wrote: They have point'n'click apps for all the usual platforms. They are not defaults. I think that many people on this list don't understand that the vast majority

Re: All in favor or.....

On 10/28/2015 19:15, Matthew Petach wrote: I work 8 hours a day... ...and then I work another 8. A long time ago, in a place far, far away, the PTB determined that we should change from a three-team, three-8-hour shifts, 5 days a week ("days", "evenings", and "nights" (aka "graves" or

Re: All in favor or.....

On 10/25/2015 10:35, Jim Popovitch wrote: All in favor of 9x5 network operations say aye. "9x5"? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Does no one monitor the list on weekends?

On 10/26/2015 13:17, Jim Mercer wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0400, Robert Webb wrote: This spam is ridiculous! it should be noted that it has been flowing all weekend, and nobody really complained or even commented on it until this morning. so, yeah, maybe the list is on

Re: the crap mail flood and the nanog culture

On 10/25/2015 17:22, Randy Bush wrote: you might think that with all the committees, boards, badges, ... that there was an actual operator in the nanog resume building circle who would actually do something useful about the crap mail flood now into its second day. I have been discarding it for

Re: Can someone do something about this "Fw: New message" spam?

On 10/25/2015 13:22, Paul S. wrote: Hi, Can someone from the moderator team take a look? This has been going on for a while. For a week or two, I think. Why the sudden interest? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: *tap tap* is this thing on?

On 10/25/2015 17:56, Brielle Bruns wrote: This spam flood is kinda hilarious in a way. Any idea why no one with mod or admin privs for the mailing list has bothered to step in and deal with this? You can find people who have been convinced that NANOG is fundamentally pro-abuse because to

Re: Why is NANOG not being blacklisted like any other provider that sent 500 spam messages in 3 days?

On 10/26/2015 18:31, Keith Medcalf wrote: Myth: blah blah blah social media is a bad way to get ahold of netops/abuse. Fact: Social media is an acceptable way to report abuse. My marketing department certainly knows how to get ahold of me when such an issue occurs. It's 2015, and if you and

Re: Uptick in spam

On 10/26/2015 22:26, Andrew Kirch wrote: not even close to more discussing than from the original spam. Not even close. Not even in the same order of magnitude, I don't think. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: The spam is real

On 10/26/2015 22:16, Randy Bush wrote: now that the number of messages discussing the spam has exceed the number of spam messages, perhaps we can get back to work and hope that the list admins have learned something. A couple of factoids that might be useful in realizing the hope. The mail

Re: Current IPv4 Options

Sitting in exactly the same position. IPv6 is great and all, but running my business natively on IPv6 means nothing to me if my customers can't reach me. Dang! It is a bloody shame that the PTB (or was it the Cabal?) did not see fit to tell us this might happen some day so we could have

Re: Spamhaus contact needed

On 10/15/2015 00:27, Jason Baugher wrote: Sorry to clutter up this list with an email issue, but hopefully someone is here from Spamhaus that can contact me off-list. I have a customer whose IP keeps getting listed in the CBL, and even after doing packet captures of everything in and out of

Re: Spamhaus contact needed

On 10/15/2015 12:32, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 10/15/2015 00:27, Jason Baugher wrote: Sorry to clutter up this list with an email issue, but hopefully someone is here from Spamhaus that can contact me off-list. I have a customer whose IP keeps getting listed in the CBL, and even after doing

Re: Spamhaus contact needed

On 10/15/2015 13:27, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 10/15/2015 12:32, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 10/15/2015 00:27, Jason Baugher wrote: Sorry to clutter up this list with an email issue, but hopefully someone is here from Spamhaus that can contact me off-list. I have a customer whose IP keeps getting

Re: Fw: important message

On 10/8/2015 16:53, Job Snijders wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 02:37:15PM -0700, Scott Berkman via NANOG wrote: Hello! Important message, please read smells compromised, moderation flag has been enabled. don't click that link, sorry. Every indication that it as you think, or worse. It

Re: CHP website returning 503

On 9/28/2015 00:24, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:42 AM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:21:41 -0700, Joe Hamelin said: It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? If it isn't important enough to get a loadbalancer (or other HA

Malware? Spammer?

Does NANOG have a problem, or do I have a more local masquerader? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: [ih] Fiction->History

On 9/24/2015 10:56, Bill Ricker wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Larry Sheldon <larryshel...@cox.net> wrote: Fiction->History ​There are two sorts of SciFi (aside from the Fantastic) - those that aren't facts yet​ ​but likely will be if we persevere, and ​those that could

Re: Skype off line ??

On 9/21/2015 03:37, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 9/21/2015 03:32, Marco Paesani wrote: Hi, do you have some news about it ? Best regards, I get a log-in screen. Do you have a fact to go with your question? Turns out the log-in screen is the last last sign or life--submitting username

Re: Skype off line ??

On 9/21/2015 03:32, Marco Paesani wrote: Hi, do you have some news about it ? Best regards, I get a log-in screen. Do you ha a fact to go with your question? -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/9/2015 08:36, Dovid Bender wrote: I am trying to understand why the legal babble bothers anyone. Does it give you a nervous twitch? Your disrespectful query is not really worthy of a answer because it is obviously not asked in good faith, but I am going to try to answer it it because

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/9/2015 20:22, Larry Sheldon wrote: I can not believe (except as, perhaps, an irrefutable sign of my advancing years) that I did not mention the very personal objection to the apparently content-free Wile E. Coyote legalese pollution: The irrefutable fact that in years

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/9/2015 10:23, Alan Buxey wrote: It's just text at the bottom of your email. 1 often a very large amount of text - in this case the legalese was something like 10x longer than the comment! 2 its pointless. Its not enforceable and doesn't mean anything. Shall i put a chapter of war and

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/8/2015 03:31, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 09:14:02PM +, Connor Wilkins wrote: Honestly.. the best method is to not let it bug you anymore. It's only a seething issue to you because you let it be. Curiously enough, the same thing was said about spam 30-ish years ago.

Re: internet visualization

On 9/8/2015 21:05, Joly MacFie wrote: ​3/10 for spelling adjancencies​ or is that a thing? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/adjacencies -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/6/2015 14:18, Scott Weeks wrote: --- rdr...@direcpath.com wrote: From: Robert Drake Maybe people could adopt an unofficial-official end-of-signature flag. Then you could have procmail strip everything after the flag: - It

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/6/2015 11:46, Robert Drake wrote: Maybe people could adopt an unofficial-official end-of-signature flag. Then you could have procmail strip everything after the flag: -- This is my signature My phone number goes here I like dogs -- end of signature --

Re: internet visualization

On 9/5/2015 19:15, Jared Mauch wrote: OT: hit delete, or shameless plug disclaimer one of my colleagues just posted this visualiation of the internet from the as_path view of 2914. if you are on a mobile, you have to physically move your device around. http://as2914.net/

Re: Software Defined Networking

On 9/4/2015 12:57, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: I think it's time to change my SMTP greeting to: 220-By submitting e-mail to this server, you agree all legal disclaimers are null and void. 220 You also agree that I am awesome. I like that. Unfortunately, I no longer operate a mail host. I have

Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

Y'all can stop thumping on me about it "because it is required by the employer". After contemplating my navel for a while, it dawned on me that my sensitivity is due to an old wound. Years ago, Faculty, Staff, Students, and myriad others more or less loosely connected with my employer

Re: Extraneous "legal" babble--and my reaction to it.

On 9/4/2015 14:40, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: There's quite a difference between the 'legal babble' and 'contact info' at the end of a message. What part of "required by employer" is different? I'm not seeing it. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Software Defined Networking

On 9/4/2015 09:40, Rod Beck wrote: Can anyone provide references on this top so I can educate myself? This e-mail and any attachments thereto is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may be proprietary and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this

Re: ATT att.net postmaster contact needed

On 8/10/2015 12:43, Ken Chase wrote: please reply offlist, mutual customer issue. Seems like this exact question comes up pretty frequently. Maybe NANOG should consider a repository of frequent inquiries... -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Working with Spamhaus

On 7/29/2015 00:58, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 7/29/2015 00:37, Matt Palmer wrote: I suspect that http://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/199.87.233.245 may be part of it (although it indicates a /21 blocked, not a /17). And the removal instructions for that range (SBL) seems crystal clear to me

Re: Working with Spamhaus

On 7/29/2015 00:37, Matt Palmer wrote: I suspect that http://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/199.87.233.245 may be part of it (although it indicates a /21 blocked, not a /17). And the removal instructions for that range (SBL) seems crystal clear to me, but long experience teaches that what is

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/29/2015 06:58, STARNES, CURTIS wrote: I see that everyone can download Windows 10 this morning! There goes my bandwidth. Just checked this PC--apparently I already have it and am good to go. I was expecting an email or something. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/29/2015 07:20, Scott Helms wrote: It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot. When I checked a few minutes ago it said my PC had passed the tests--now it says it is downloading. Speed and responsiveness feels normal. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/29/2015 07:32, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 7/29/2015 07:20, Scott Helms wrote: It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot. When I checked a few minutes ago it said my PC had passed the tests--now it says it is downloading. Speed and responsiveness feels normal

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/29/2015 10:30, frnk...@iname.com wrote: Some concern expressed here: http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/windows-10-launch-huge-traffic.html I have no status above out-of-work old fart, and it has been a while since I was engaged in anything bigger than my four-PC, three-wiffy, one

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/29/2015 06:58, STARNES, CURTIS wrote: I see that everyone can download Windows 10 this morning! There goes my bandwidth. One of us does not understand how they said it was going to be done. -- sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)

Re: Windows 10 Release

On 7/28/2015 15:45, Nick Olsen wrote: Wonder if they'll stage the release as apple appeared to have learned after IOS7 hammered a bunch of networks. Everything I have gotten for my personal machines suggests that it may be months before my copies are released. -- sed quis custodiet

Re: Working with Spamhaus

On 7/28/2015 22:06, Bryan Tong wrote: If anyone has any advice on how to deal with these people. Please let me know here or off list. Based on years of experience, the very best way is don't. Don't profit from spam, and as a result don't deal with Spamhaus at all. -- sed quis custodiet

Re: Working with Spamhaus

On 7/29/2015 00:24, goe...@anime.net wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 7/28/2015 22:06, Bryan Tong wrote: If anyone has any advice on how to deal with these people. Please let me know here or off list. Based on years of experience, the very best way is don't. You have

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