Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan Sometimes people are asleep (disasters don't always happen at 2pm on a work day), live alone, are not constantly watching TV or checking social media. Its unlikely any system will ever be able to reach everyone.

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

--- eric.kuh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric Kuhnke many contractors *do* have sensitive data on their networks with a gateway out to the public Internet. I could definitely imagine that happening. scott

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

--- ra...@psg.com wrote: From: Randy Bush > Classified networks do not connect to other networks unless > they are equally or higher classified. that sentence makes no sense. if A can connect to B because B is more highly classified than A, then B is connecting to a less classified network

RE: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

--- snasl...@medline.com wrote: From: "Naslund, Steve" The other thing I am highly skeptical of is the suggestion of attempting to tap sensitive intel agency systems this way. Talking to a C server is suicide from within their network.

Re: bloomberg on supermicro: sky is falling

--- matlock...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ken Matlock Would be remiss in our duties if we didn't also link AWS' blog, in response to the Bloomberg article. -- Every company and the Chinese gov't is saying "no, Bloomberg is wrong":

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

--- m...@maxh.me.uk wrote: From: Max Harmony I got it, but not until 14.34. For a system that's supposed to be able to warn people of incoming nuclear attack, that seems unacceptably slow. --- You mean like the one we got in Hawaii?

Re: Oct. 3, 2018 EAS Presidential Alert test

--- a...@andyring.com wrote: From: Andy Ringsmuth Interesting. That seems to be a gigantic hole in this entire process. - Surprising given it's a gov't process. Because, you know, those always go really well. ;) :: A dedicated mailbox

Re: NANOG Security Track: Route Security

--- karl_g...@gmx.at wrote: From: Karl Gerhard Most of the readers here will never attend a NANOG meeting and a big part of those won't attend because they live on other parts of the planet. Yep, 21 years on the list and I still

Re: Massive Price Increase for X-conns at Telehouse Chelsea, NYC

--- b...@ufl.edu wrote: From: Bruce H McIntosh I can remember a conversation like this at a Joint Techs meeting many years back. Several of us were outgassing about how expensive it was to get 100mbps connections off our campuses, until the guy from the University of Hawaii told us how

Re: Hurricane Lane: Catagory 5 storm forecast to sideswipe Hawaii

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan Hurricane warnings have been issued for Hurricane Lane, which strengthened to a catagory 5 storm on Tuesday. The forecast cone of uncertainity shows the path sideswiping Hawaii on Thursday. --- Yep,

Re: possible hawaii weather issue next week

--- sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: From: "Scott Weeks" If you have stuff in Hawaii, you might want to start thinking about your DR plan. Whew, that was close! http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/jsanim.cgi?res=4km=ir=nep=720=30=900=uhme

Re: Multicast traffic % in enterprise network ?

--- j...@depaul.edu wrote: From: John Kristoff :: In my experience, real world IP multicast experience :: and expertise is almost non-existent. :: but it tends to just work once setup and rarely :: changes. :: the setup was done a long time ago and people rarely :: touch it now. :: If

Re: possible hawaii weather issue next week

If you have stuff in Hawaii, you might want to start thinking about your DR plan. Things can change a lot for the better in 7 days, but they can also get ugly fast. Best to prepare just in case...

possible hawaii weather issue next week

If you have stuff in Hawaii, you might want to start thinking about your DR plan. Things can change a lot for the better in 7 days, but they can also get ugly fast. Best to prepare just in case... https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep5+shtml/204426.shtml?cone

Re: Security team objectives

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 04:43:35 + Ramy Hashish wrote: > If you are going to start a security team in a newly founded > IT organization, what will the objectives/results be? -- Mine would be to start with someone who is experienced; even if

Re: using expect to log into devices

--- valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 00:43:35 +0200, Niels Bakker said: > Fine as a personal exercise, of course. The inability to download > modules seems sadistic to me, though. And given the adage "Never create a rule you can't enforce", I

Re: using expect to log into devices

Was out. Late reply... --- niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: From: Niels Bakker * sur...@mauigateway.com (Scott Weeks) [Sat 21 Jul 2018, 22:38 CEST]: >I had already done this in PERL, but, even though we have PERL, we >are not allowed to download modules here. So, I'm redoing it in &

Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet

--- r...@invaluement.com wrote: From: Rob McEwen The bottom line is that there is no trend of recently observed sea level rising data that is even close to being on track to hit all these dire predictions within the foreseeable future And, again, there were articles like this 10,

Re: using expect to log into devices

--- ler...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lee > I have a file with 1000s of devices and another file > with a list of commands. The program issues all > commands for a device and then moves on to the next > one using nested loops. In the debug I see the > "spawn_id expNN" (where NN is a number that,

Re: using expect to log into devices

--- jwbens...@gmail.com wrote: From: James Bensley :: Do you need to write this yourself, No, but I'm tired of being a coding wussie, so this is 1) an exercise for me in getting better at it and 2) I want it to read a list of machines from one file and execute a list of commands from

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On 20/Jul/18 21:37, Scott Weeks wrote: > Could you explain that? Do you mean logically > near the ground stations? I mean physically in the ISP's backbone. -- Oops, failure to communicate... They

using expect to log into devices

I have looked extensively on the web for an answer and cannot find one, so I come to you guys. I am not allowed to use modules in PERL or Python or I wouldn't have to do it this way. I have to do this all in Expect and I am a newbie at it. Also, maybe I'm having the Friday afternoon "I want

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: From: Mark Tinka On 20/Jul/18 00:13, Scott Weeks wrote: > What I meant to say is a lot of folks get connectivity > through satellite. 500msec plus and jitter to spare. Would having local CDN caches help satellite-based providers

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: From: Mark Tinka On 19/Jul/18 22:43, Scott Weeks wrote: > I know we're talking about Africa and other less well > connected countries, but good luck with that in the > Pacific, which covers about 1/3 of the planet. > > https://oceanexplorer

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: From: Mark Tinka On 19/Jul/18 22:43, Scott Weeks wrote: > I know we're talking about Africa and other less well > connected countries, but good luck with that in the > Pacific, which covers about 1/3 of the planet. > > https://oceanexplorer

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: From: Mark Tinka On 18/Jul/18 16:58, K. Scott Helms wrote: > ... What's really interesting is how gaming is changing > and within the next few years I do expect a lot of games > to move into the remote rendering world. You need to > have <=30 ms of latency

Re: Proving Gig Speed

--- mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: From: Mark Tinka As Trump said..." -- That should be added to Godwin's Law! >:-/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law scott

courtesy

--- j...@instituut.net wrote: People - please just stop the off topic chatter. It is ludicrous that a thread about bgp hijacks morphed into font discussions. Either contribute to the operational issue at hand by evaluating your terms & conditions (or abuse policies) and applying them to

RE: AS3266: BitCanal hijack factory, courtesy of Cogent, GTT, and Level3

I suppose next you'll be telling me to get rid of my CRT when it works just fine? Black background, white text. :) scott

Re: AS3266: BitCanal hijack factory, courtesy of Cogent, GTT, and Level3

On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at 22:49, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Without the generous support of Cogent, GTT, and Level3 this dumbass > lowlife IP address space thief would be largely if not entirely toast. > So what are they waiting for? Why don't their turf this jackass?

Re: FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

--- niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: From: niels=na...@bakker.net Then perhaps that thread was killed by the moderators. Please heed the list charter. Also, please get a mail client that generates proper In-Reply-To headers and knows how to quote... it's 2018.

Re: FWIW... Re: TEST Help? TEST

On 06/12/2018 01:10 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > Apologies for the noise. Please hit delete... Turns out that it's only the "Re: IPv6 faster/better proof?" thread I can't reply to. I still can't. All I wanted to say was: ---

RE: What are people using for IPAM these days?

--- c-mack.mcbr...@charter.com wrote: From: "McBride, Mack" If you are managing more than a thousand IPs allocations spreadsheets are not manageable for IPv4. - - I managed a /15, two /16s and several /24s (so, well

TEST Help? TEST

Apologies for the noise. Please hit delete... Once again I am not able to send email to the list and have either been moderated off again (for some mistake or some unknown reason why) or something else is going on. Sent email to admins@, but no response, so this is just a test to see if

IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ca By > Meanwhile, FB reports that 75% of mobiles in the USA > reach them via ipv6 > > And Akaimai reports 80% of mobiles And they both report ipv6 is faster / better. Hmm... Faster and better? The links seem

RE: What are people using for IPAM these days?

--- c-mack.mcbr...@charter.com wrote: From: "McBride, Mack" If you are managing more than a thousand IPs allocations spreadsheets are not manageable for IPv4. - I managed a /15, two /16s and several /24s (so, well over a quarter million IPs) on a

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

I believe you were responding to me, but it was really hard to tell. If so, here's the conversation... > Also, please don't just look at continental countries > when researching. Look at the small PICs (Pacific > Island Countries). For example, search the posts from > Christian on

Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

--- mpet...@netflight.com wrote: From: Matthew Petach On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ben Cannon wrote: > I’m sorry I simply believe that in 2018 with the advanced and cheap ptp > radio (ubiquiti anyone? $300 and I have a 200mbit/sec link over 10miles! > Spend a bit more and go 100km) plus

Re: SD-WAN Solutions

--- sab...@auxes.is wrote: From: "Sabina M." Additionally, is anyone familiar with what RFC Alcatel/Nokia is implementing for the VXLAN part of the solution? It looks a bit non-standard but I can't find any clear documentation regarding this anywhere

VPN Filter: botnet of routers

Kaboom! https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-fbi-seizes-control-of-russian-botnet "FBI agents armed with a court order have seized control of a key server in the Kremlin’s global botnet of 500,000 hacked routers..." "The FBI counter-operation goes after “VPN Filter,” a piece of

BGP Battleships

I saw the below on SWINOG and thought it might add some fun in the middle of all this General Data Protection Regulation conversation. :) scott --- Begin forwarded message: From: Gregor Riepl To: swi...@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] BGP Battleships Date: Tue, 22 May

Re: Telecommunications Outage Report: Northern California Firestorm 2017

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan :: During the 2017 wildfires, there were no forms of :: communications or technologies that worked better :: than the rest. I don't have time to read all 80+ pages and don't see it in the contents. Do you know what services

Re: Curiosity about AS3356 L3/CenturyLink network resiliency (in general)

--- joe...@bogus.com wrote: From: joel jaeggli alcatel/nokia 7750 (L3's newer PE platform) is large but not outlandish and they've been deployed for a couple years. -- More than a couple... I was using them for MPLS over 10 years

Re: internet - sparkle

--- aar...@gvtc.com wrote: From: Aaron Gould What's an eyeball network ? --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyeball_network scott

Re: DSL Operators Mailing List?

>> I made a Facebook group for xLEC-related things. > (Not useful for those of us not on Facebook.) Whaaat??? Someone's not on FB? Because...like totally...all the cool kids are doing it! Don't you want to be one of the cool kids, too? >>> Then don't participate and move on? Awww, too

Re: Company threatens to cut Northern Marianas cable

-- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan In 2015, the only submarine cable connecting the Northern Marianas Islands, a U.S. Territory, was damaged by a boulder. It cut off all telecommunications to the U.S. Territory for several weeks. To obtain a second

RE: Is WHOIS going to go away?

- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - One last OT point. It's Friday after all... :)

Re: Yet another Quadruple DNS?

--- bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: From: Stephane Bortzmeyer Rich Kulawiec wrote a message of 10 lines which said: > Watch what you wish for: you might get it. The number of > attack/abuse vectors (and the severity of their consequences for > security and

Re: Yet another Quadruple DNS?

> Public DNS resolvers still help against "ordinary" > adversaries. (If your ennemy is the NSA, you have > other problems, anyway.) : I think there's ample evidence that everyone's enemy : is 'the nsa' (or other nation-state-actors) isn't : there? --- na...@ics-il.net wrote: -

Re: Question about great firewall of China

> As you may have heard, Bell Canada has gathered a > group called Fairplay Canada to force all ISPs in > Canada to block web sites --- h...@slabnet.com wrote: From: Hugo Slabbert re: Nation-level controls, the Sandvine report from Citizen Labs can add some context and

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

--- s...@ytti.fi wrote: From: Saku Ytti ...but I have far more BFD caused problems than BFD solved problems, spanning multiple vendors. (CAT7600, ASR9k, MX). Yes, that's for sure. Also, it's hard to scale when you're tweaking knobs on

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

:: For those running BFD on your land-based point-to-point links, :: I’m interested in hearing about what factors you consider when :: deciding how to configure your timers and multiplier. It has been a while since I used BFD, but I remember trying to get it as close to what I wanted and

Re: Proof of ownership; when someone demands you remove a prefix

>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> >> it's a real shame there is no authorative cryptographically verifyable >> attestation of address ownership. > On Mar 12, 2018, at 21:20, George William Herbert > wrote: > > Ownership?... > >

NANOG is moderated?

Is NANOG now moderated? Can the folks with the purple robes and wizard hats please allow me back in? :-) scott --- Begin forwarded message: From: nanog-ow...@nanog.org To: sur...@mauigateway.com Subject: Your message to NANOG awaits moderator approval Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:18:53 +

Re: User on list from carid.com sending automated replies

--- br...@2mbit.com wrote: From: Brielle Bruns Just got this auto responder in re of my question to the list. Someone from carid.com seems to have their inbox routed to their company's support box. - I sent adm...@nanog.org an

Re: improving signal to noise ratio from centralized network syslogs

--- sh...@short.id.au wrote: In addition to that, you can use some fancy awk colour coding, so you can make it highlight certain lines based on content.. I use this for my e-mail logs, but I’m sure it could be adapted: tail -n 1000 -f /var/log/mail-submission.log | grep smtp.*relay | awk '

Re: improving signal to noise ratio from centralized network syslogs

--- ta...@lanparty.ee wrote: > This is done with the 'logging facility' > command on the devices: > > After defining your syslog server's IP > address and the level of messaging you want > (I set it to debug because I want to see > everything): > > on the routers: logging facility local0 > on

Re: improving signal to noise ratio from centralized network syslogs

--- jmai...@jmaimon.com wrote: Centralized logging is a good thing. However, what happens is that every repetitive, annoying but not (usually) important thing fills up the log with reams of what you are not looking for. --- Apologies, I'm late to the party.

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

--- br...@ampr.org wrote: From: Brian Kantor Just how many nanobots can dance on the head of a pin? --- 2^128? Just guessing. >;-) scott

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

--- baldur.nordd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Baldur Norddahl Nobody needs to worry...Historically we spent... -- Out of context, but yeah that. scott

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

--- jlightf...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Lightfoot Excuse the top post, but this seems to be an argument between people who understand big numbers and those who don't. No, not exactly. It's also about those that think in

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

> :: Isn't this the utopia we've been seeking out? > > I like that one! :-) >> Seriously. All I was trying to say is there're going to be things not thought of yet that will chew up address space faster than ever before now that everyone believes it's essentially inexhaustible. And, I

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

:: Now think about scaling. Yes :: If the population doubles, we're now down to four spare /3s. :: If that doubled population doubles the number of devices, :: we're down to two spare /3s. If the population doubles :: again, there will be no civilization left, let alone an :: Internet.

Re: AS PATH limits

--- b...@herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin Well, that's a brilliant platitude, but what do you do when it breaks over and over until the other guy upgrades? --- Filter that network out of your tables until it's fixed? :)

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

--- o...@delong.com wrote: From: Owen DeLong > But I'd argue that if I have personal nanotech, I *really* want > to use ULA addresses. They're *my* nanotech. :) Feel free. Personally, I still see ULA as an absurdity.

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

--- b...@herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin Even the relatively good ones are bad. I have identified 60 and am on track to identify about 200 errors in the official ISC2 CISSP study guide. - One last one I promise... :-) I also

Re: Novice sysadmins (was: Suggestions for a more privacy conscious email provider)

--- l...@satchell.net wrote: From: Stephen Satchell Indeed, I'm not aware of any certification that applies to system administrators. Network administrators have certs that are well-recognized and accepted. Mail admins? Server admins? The certs that are out there

Re: OSPF Monitoring Tool

--- mmethw2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Methsri Wickramarathna Is anyone knows about a Monitoring tool for OSPF ?? -- Use SNMP and any graphing tool (such as Cacti, if you don't need to scale to a large size) Some SNMP OIDs:

RE: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

--- nanog@nanog.org wrote: From: Richard Vander Reyden via NANOG > This is a *single area* ospf environment, that has been > stable for years. But now suddenly is having issues with > new ospf neightbor adjacencies , which are riding a 3rd > party transport network >> I

RE: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

--- jacques.lat...@cira.ca wrote: From: Jacques Latour ISP: Anybody offering services over the internet, including Transit Providers. Transit Provider: An internet service "transit" where the whole Internet can reach your advertised network addresses.

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ? Just curious to see if there are agreed upon definitions from the network operators's point of view.

Re: media are reporting "major Internet outage"

--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ca By Outages go outage list https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2017-November/010952.html --- Be sure to use outages-discuss...@outages.org for this one as outa...@outages.org is just for

Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei It isn't clear to me what happens to fibre when a railway abandons and removes tracks. That's an interesting question. Anyone have experience with that?

Re: Long BGP AS paths

> Nowhere in the BGP RFCs it says it is okay for the > software to crash. :: we could send a community to signal that it's ok :: to crash Call it the ECB. (Evil Crash Bit). ;-) scott

Re: Why San Juan National Weather Service RADAR is out of service

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan The National Weather Service office in San Juan Puerto Rico is back on line. They have posted pictures of the weather radardome, or rather what's left of the radardome after Hurricane Maria.

Re: 2017 NANOG Elections General Information

--- br...@shout.net wrote: From: Bryan Holloway Had I been a first-time attendee, I would've felt like a high-school freshman being told who all the "cool seniors" were. Frankly, it was awkward and off-putting. --- Not only

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

--- nanog@nanog.org wrote: From: i mawsog via NANOG :: Agree, this thread has generated more "spam" or noise :: for all of us collectively.  It's not spam. Look up the definition of spam. Also, just block the thread in your email client. :: Some amount of relevant "spam"

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

:: What do you suggest? Shoot them at Dawn? :-) Not all of them. Just shoot the first one and the rest will pay attention! ;-) :: We don't have a runaway spamming problem on the list. A lot of it has to do with naming-n-shaming, which he did. Instead of a firing squad, it's a financial

Re: IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots

--- s...@xopher.net wrote: From: Scott Christopher I think the solution is legislation + regulations. - For sure dude, because, you know, they do such a great job of all the other stuff they touch! scott ps. NOT!

RE: Please run windows update now

--- na...@incomingmta.com wrote: From: "Phillip White" ...I have been on this list for many years...Today, though, I felt the need to create the mailbox just so I could reply since your posts have been the most irritating I have ever seen on this list.

Re: Benefits (and Detriments) of Standardizing Network Equipment in a Global Organization

:: and minimal time zones (still 5 hours :: between New York and Hawaii though). Apologies, I can't resist. :) Sometimes it's 6 hours and some times it's 5 between Hawaii and the East Coast. Hawaii is *always* -10 GMT. We don't do daylight savings time. scott

Re: Avalanche botnet takedown

I did some snippage, but I believe I kept to the idea. :: you seem to want various laws made to control it. > Yes. It's a global network. I want to say what country's laws, but see below. Also, if you want something to be broken beyond recognition get a government to regulate it.

Re: Avalanche botnet takedown

--- r...@tristatelogic.com wrote: From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In message <20161201124527.9be45...@m0087798.ppops.net>, sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: >What is your suggestion to keep the sky from falling? My full answer, if fully elaborated, would bore you and

Re: Avalanche botnet takedown

--- r...@tristatelogic.com wrote: From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" The Internet, viewed as an organism, quite clearly has, at present, numerous autoimmune diseases. It is attacking itself. And its immune system, such as it is, clearly ain't working. There's going to come

list scrap by long time participant?

--- Begin forwarded message: Hi Ladies and Gentlemen, We have three of the top five transit providers in our portfolio: Telia, Cogent, and GTT. Also NTT, Telecom Italia, and PCCW. Telia pricing is attractive given the quality of the product. Contact me for further details.

Re: Eisenach & the FCC - was: [Re: Here we go again.]

--- m...@beckman.org wrote: From: Mel Beckman This is discussing politics, not the "operational and technical issues" of NANOG's charter. --- BTW, I didn't mean it to be talking politics. He was mentioned in the current discussion,

Eisenach & the FCC - was: [Re: Here we go again.]

--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: The president elect chose Mr Eisenach to help fill jobs in FCC and other telecom areas of govt. That'll have impact on ops, if some of the papers are correct. Briefly:

Re: Death of the Internet, Film at 11

> On Oct 22, 2016 5:11 PM, "Mark Andrews" wrote: > One way to deal with this would be for ISP's to purchase DoS attacks > against their own servers (not necessarially hosted on your own > network) then look at which connections from their network attacking > these machines then

Re: CDN Overload?

:: I have made this into a Google Form to make it easier to :: track compared to randomly formatted responses on multiple :: mailing lists, Facebook Groups, etc. Yeah, because... but I don't do email like that why is it hard to read? it's really hard to read email this way. because it's

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- br...@bryanfields.net wrote: From: Bryan Fields I'm a bit ambivalent about BGP hijacking as a DDOS mitigation strategy. Really there is no authority to say it's wrong. If your peers are cool with it, and their peers are cool with it who's to say it's wrong?

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei I got to think about this (dangerous thing :-( Ideally, law enforcement should have the smarts and tools to get involved in DDoS and other similar situations and have the power to compell upstream

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- dougm.w...@gmail.com wrote: From: Doug Montgomery If only there were a global system, with consistent and verifiable security properties, to permit address holders to declare the set of AS's authorized to announce their prefixes, and routers anywhere on the Internet

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- h...@slabnet.com wrote: On Tue 2016-Sep-13 13:32:56 -0700, Scott Weeks <sur...@mauigateway.com> wrote: >--- bry...@backconnect.com wrote: >From: Bryant Townsend <bry...@backconnect.com> >@ca & Matt - No, we do not plan to ever intentionally perform a &

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- bry...@backconnect.com wrote: From: Bryant Townsend @ca & Matt - No, we do not plan to ever intentionally perform a non-authorized BGP hijack in the future. Bryant, Who was the upstream provider? scott

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- m...@beckman.org wrote: From: Mel Beckman This looks to me like ISP community governance in the best sense. I look forward to thoughtful discussion. Yes, 100% agree! scott

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

--- bl...@ispn.net wrote: From: Blake Hudson <bl...@ispn.net> Scott Weeks wrote on 9/12/2016 11:08 AM: > From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf > of Blake Hudson <bl...@ispn.net> > My suggestion is that BackConnect/Bryant Townsend should have their ASN

Re: "Defensive" BGP hijacking?

From: NANOG on behalf of Blake Hudson My suggestion is that BackConnect/Bryant Townsend should have their ASN revoked for fraudulently announcing another organization's address space. They are not law enforcement, they did not have a warrant or

Re: Don't press the big red buttom on the wall!

--- s...@donelan.com wrote: From: Sean Donelan See that big red button on the wall under the sign "Do Not Push This Button!" DC 911 outage caused by contractor error http://wtop.com/dc/2016/08/dc-911-outage-caused-by-contractor-who-pulled-wrong-switch/

Re: RIP ipv4 dominance

--- cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: This not RIP ipv4, but RIP dominance, on mobile, in the USA , This is an epic milestone for ipv6 http://www.worldipv6launch.org/major-mobile-us-networks-pass-50-ipv6-threshold/ -- And from another point of

Re: CAIDA selected by FCC for internet performance measurement

--- morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Christopher Morrow isn't this what KC presented like 3 nanogs ago? -- For the archives: https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/caida.pdf ---

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