Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

Agreed, it should be 100% opt-in… and I don’t even like the idea of providing filtered DNS at all. But sadly, judging by the number of neighborhood Facebook group posts I see from people complaining about “their wifi being down” during yet another fiber cut, there are an increasingly large

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

> On Oct 30, 2023, at 07:58, Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > On 10/27/23, 19:01, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong wrote: > >> If it’s such a reasonable default, why don’t any of the public resolvers >> (e.g. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) do so? >> DNS isn’t the right place to attack this,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

No, Charter doesn't use those. Charter runs its own anycasted recursive nameservers. On 10/30/23, 2:46 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Livingood, Jason via NANOG" mailto:charter@nanog.org> on behalf of nanog@nanog.org > wrote: CAUTION: The e-mail below is from an

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

On 10/30/23, 16:02, "John R. Levine" mailto:jo...@iecc.com>> wrote: > I have no idea whether Charter uses one of these, some other third party, or their own. They don't use those providers as far as I am aware. I've alerted someone from CHTR of this thread. JL

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Livingood, Jason wrote: On 10/27/23, 19:01, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong wrote: If it’s such a reasonable default, why don’t any of the public resolvers (e.g. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) do so? DNS isn’t the right place to attack this, IMHO. Are we sure that the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

On 10/27/23, 19:01, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong wrote: > If it’s such a reasonable default, why don’t any of the public resolvers > (e.g. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) do so? > DNS isn’t the right place to attack this, IMHO. Are we sure that the filtering is done in the default view - I

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

If it’s such a reasonable default, why don’t any of the public resolvers (e.g. 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, etc.) do so? Oh my, you walked right into that one. https://www.quad9.net/service/threat-blocking/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-1-1-1-1-for-families/ I'm also surprised

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

> On Oct 28, 2023, at 10:28, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > - Original Message - >> From: "Owen DeLong via NANOG" > >>> For a network feeding a data center, sure. For a network like >>> Charter's which is feeding unsophisticated nontechnical users, they >>> need all the messing they can

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

- Original Message - > From: "Owen DeLong via NANOG" >> For a network feeding a data center, sure. For a network like >> Charter's which is feeding unsophisticated nontechnical users, they >> need all the messing they can get. >> >> If you're one of the small minority of retail users

Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

> On Oct 27, 2023, at 14:20, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that Bryan Fields said: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> On 10/27/23 7:49 AM, John Levine wrote: >>> But for obvious good reasons, >>> the vast majority of their customers don't >> >> I'd argue that as a service provider