Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Mauch" To: "Tom Beecher" Cc: "Nanog" Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 12:14:58 PM Subject: Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia > On Aug 2, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Tom Beecher wrote: > > This conventional interpretation is the one I'm applying in

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-02 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Aug 2, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Tom Beecher wrote: > > This conventional interpretation is the one I'm applying in this question. > > I would argue even the 'conventional' definition of 'Tier 1' has been > nebulous for long enough that it doesn't really matter much anymore. > > Who a

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-02 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Tom Beecher" To: "Rubens Kuhl" Cc: "Nanog" Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 10:58:58 AM Subject: Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia This conventional interpretation is the one I'm applying in this question. I would argue even

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-02 Thread Tom Beecher
> > This conventional interpretation is the one I'm applying in this question. > I would argue even the 'conventional' definition of 'Tier 1' has been nebulous for long enough that it doesn't really matter much anymore. Who a network connects with and how is all that matters, regardless of what

Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-01 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
6762 became transit free some 15 years ago while I was still working there.

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-01 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 3:19 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > > > > On 1 Aug 2022, at 11:10 am, Tom Paseka via NANOG wrote: > > > > Paying for "peering", doesn't stop you being a tier-1. > > > > Being a Tier-1 means you are "transit free" (technical term, not > > commercial). No one is transiting your

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-01 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 1 Aug 2022, at 11:10 am, Tom Paseka via NANOG wrote: > > Paying for "peering", doesn't stop you being a tier-1. > > Being a Tier-1 means you are "transit free" (technical term, not commercial). > No one is transiting your routes to other Tier-1 providers. > There are a lot of

Re: Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-01 Thread Tom Paseka via NANOG
Paying for "peering", doesn't stop you being a tier-1. Being a Tier-1 means you are "transit free" (technical term, not commercial). No one is transiting your routes to other Tier-1 providers. On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 11:04 AM Rubens Kuhl wrote: > Hi. > > Looking at the article on Tier 1

Allegedly Tier 1s in Wikipedia

2022-08-01 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Hi. Looking at the article on Tier 1 networks, I found one that I know for a fact that pays for some transit (12956) and some I usually don't associate to Tier 1 status, like 6762. Is there a list of such transit relationships by those bragging about being Tier 1 ? Rubens