On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.comwrote:
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Lastly, I'm going to suggest that this is drifting rather afar OT from
the charter of the group, and suggest that the MLM may want to put the
kibosh on this thread.
That's exactly what happened the
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:34:18 -0500
William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote:
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:11 -0600, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 7/11/09 11:05 AM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a blacklisting
service is that slow on
On Jul 14, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:34:18 -0500
William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote:
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:11 -0600, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 7/11/09 11:05 AM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Mark Smith wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a blacklisting
service is that slow on responding to problems.
Also, I believe SORBS are the ones that require a donation to get out if
A 'required donation' sounds like a ransom to me.
From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:58:35 -0400
On Jul 14, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:34:18 -0500
William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote:
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:11 -0600, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 7/11/09 11:05
[SNIP]
Everyone,
Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean
Anderson's ... uh ... missives[*]. We do not see the original, so by
replying and CC'ing the list, you are helping him get his ... er ...
message[*] to a wider audience. And if you have actually read any of
How about, Don't reply to Dean Anderson. :-)
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.netwrote:
[SNIP]
Everyone,
Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean Anderson's
... uh ... missives[*]. We do not see the original, so by replying and
On Jul 11, 4:58 pm, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
On Jul 11, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
P.S. Anyone looking to find a good DNSBL, I would recommend Al
Iverson's web page, http://www.dnsbl.com/. Hrmmm, AHBL is not
listed there. Al's pretty clueful about such things
People bitch and whine about free services more than when they actually
pay for something. Sad.
That's the nature of people who want something for nothing. When you charge,
even a little bit, you select the bottom part of the gene pool out of your
client base.
I need to resolve some issues that we are having with you guys but there is
a lack of timelyness with your contact forms, 28 days is simply unacceptable
:(
Sorbs was shut down just about that time ago ..
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronald Cotoniseti...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to resolve some issues that we are having with you guys but there is
a lack of timelyness with your contact forms, 28 days is simply unacceptable
:(
--
Suresh
Ronald Cotoni wrote:
I need to resolve some issues that we are having with you guys but there is
a lack of timelyness with your contact forms, 28 days is simply unacceptable
:(
You might also try on the spam-l.org mailing list.
~Seth
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ronald Cotoniseti...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to resolve some issues that we are having with you guys but there is
a lack of timelyness with your contact forms, 28 days is simply unacceptable
:(
From www.sorbs.net:
It comes with great sadness that I have to
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Christopher
Morrowmorrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From www.sorbs.net:
It comes with great sadness that I have to announce the imminent
[snip]
You might want to read the June 25th update they made to the
announcement, as shown on the very same page.
SORBS has
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:34:58 -0500
James Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Christopher
Morrowmorrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
From www.sorbs.net:
It comes with great sadness that I have to announce the imminent
[snip]
You might want to read the June 25th
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a blacklisting
service is that slow on responding to problems.
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.comwrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:34:58 -0500
James Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009
On 7/11/09 11:05 AM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a blacklisting
service is that slow on responding to problems.
I find it unacceptable that people demand instant service from a company
they don't have prior business arrangements/relationship
On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 7/11/09 11:05 AM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a
blacklisting
service is that slow on responding to problems.
I find it unacceptable that people demand instant service from a
company
Hi Brielle.
Do they take two weeks to put a spammer on the list?
Regards,
John
John Souvestre - New Orleans LA
-Original Message-
From: Brielle Bruns [mailto:br...@2mbit.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:12 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Can someone from SORBS
That's good to know.
I'll avoid using it.
--nvieira
- Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote:
Average turn around time for the AHBL is around two weeks if we don't have an
established contact and procedure with.
they take two weeks to put a spammer on the list?
Regards,
John
John Souvestre - New Orleans LA
-Original Message-
From: Brielle Bruns [mailto:br...@2mbit.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:12 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Can someone from SORBS contact me
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Given that you said AHBL requires two weeks to remove good IP addresses
unless there is an established contact, I'll be sure never to use said
list. Suppose my business partner gets listed? Am I to ruin our
relationship for two weeks because you are busy or don't
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:11 -0600, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 7/11/09 11:05 AM, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Yes, they are really bad. It is actually quite silly that a blacklisting
service is that slow on responding to problems.
I find it unacceptable that people demand instant service from a
I wouldn't condone usage of SORBS' lists, because they sometimes use
robots to automatically list things that have little rational basis
for being listed, which causes problems. But it may be hard to
convince your mail recipients to avoid the same.
Commonly, providers may give un-assigned
Nuno Vieira - nfsi wrote:
That's good to know.
I'll avoid using it.
Holy crap, what's with all the AHBL hate? At the very least they have a
responsive human and - last time I checked - they don't require an
exchange of money to get off the list. I'd hazard a guess that two
weeks includes
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009, Seth Mattinen wrote:
Nuno Vieira - nfsi wrote:
That's good to know.
I'll avoid using it.
Holy crap, what's with all the AHBL hate? At the very least they have a
responsive human and - last time I checked - they don't require an exchange
of money to get off the
- Original Message -
From: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist?
Nuno Vieira - nfsi wrote:
That's good to know.
I'll avoid using it.
Holy crap, what's with all the AHBL
On 7/11/09 12:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Given that you said AHBL requires two weeks to remove good IP addresses
unless there is an established contact, I'll be sure never to use said
list. Suppose my business partner gets listed? Am I to ruin our
relationship for two weeks because you
On 7/11/09 3:30 PM, Micheal Patterson wrote:
Proxy removal is functioning (sort of). Any other type of removal is no
longer possible.
Do not contact us about removals.
That's quoted from their web site. No method of communications except
through the proxy, which is only sort of working. So, if
On Jul 11, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
Further, there is such thing as a local whitelist of IP addresses.
Easier to just not use the BL.
Besides, there are plenty of useful blacklists with very low FP rates
who are responsive. Why use one that has high FP and is
unresponsive?
On Jul 11, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
Nuno Vieira - nfsi wrote:
That's good to know.
I'll avoid using it.
Holy crap, what's with all the AHBL hate? At the very least they
have a responsive human and - last time I checked - they don't
require an exchange of money to get off the
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
Sadly, this is for remote hosts. I have no idea why someone would use such
services as there are too many false positives.
Desperation in trying to limit the amount of spam delivered.
It is like using an IDS that is 2 weeks behind on it's
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