Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/08/2019 15:14, Nick Olsen wrote: > It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as > wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently. To the this point, I've a Three contract here (UK). It has slightly been frustrating recently, I'll admit.

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-02 Thread James Bensley
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 02:36, Ryan Gelobter wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear > console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 > countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Andy Sparrow
According to https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/7/12/12159210/google-project-fi-three-network-international-roaming-speed , Project/Google Fi added 3/Hutchinson as a native carrier in the UK in the same way that Sprint/T-Mob/US Cellular networks provide service in the US. One of Hutch's

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Fearghas Mckay
Tom > On 1 Aug 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill wrote: > > Are you suggesting Fi because of: > > "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per > minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra > data charges outside of the US), and texting is free." > >

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Nick Olsen
I've got a line on my Fi account that almost exclusively roams in the UK. Only been on-net in the US a few times and they've never complained about excessive roaming. It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Matt Corallo
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus in many countries you can pick from multiple networks). If you

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-08-01 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Google Fi Are you suggesting Fi because of: "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra data charges outside of the US), and texting is free." Ergo, relative

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Louis Kowolowski
ailto:rya...@atwgpc.net>> wrote: >> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear >> console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 >> countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to >

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
8:35 Ryan Gelobter wrote: >> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear >> console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 >> countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to >> Openge

Re: UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Google Fi On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter wrote: > Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on > Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider > for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when

UK, NL, & Asia LTE Providers for Opengear Console Servers

2019-07-31 Thread Ryan Gelobter
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use Verizon SIM

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Mike Hammett
nog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:05:36 PM Subject: Re: Console Servers Why am I picturing you rigging up a Particle Electron as a dongle to each device you want remote access to? Owen On Sep 19, 2018, at 02:21 , Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: Except

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Owen DeLong
gt; The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Saku Ytti" > To: "James Bensley" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Wedne

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 01:50 , Saku Ytti wrote: > > Hey, > >> In some DCs I've done mutual OOB swaps with other telcos in the same >> suite, this is usually cheap or free (excluding the one time xconnect > > We consciously decided to not ask or accept OOB swaps, because of fear > that they

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread David Kotlerewsky
. From: NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:27:49 PM To: Jun Tanaka; nanog@nanog.org; Alan Hannan; NANOG Subject: RE: Console Servers Perle IOLAN SCS series is great. We have them all over the United States. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jun Tanaka

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Andrew Latham
Note: newer Lantronix don't require Java for the config interface at all. Also note that you can organize OOBM and in band management with https://guacamole.apache.org/ if needed. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM Jeremy Bresley wrote: > On 9/19/18 04:40, James Bensley wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Jeremy Bresley
On 9/19/18 04:40, James Bensley wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 14:38, Alan Hannan wrote: I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager. Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Mike Hammett
To: "James Bensley" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:04:58 AM Subject: Re: Console Servers On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 11:54, James Bensley wrote: > I forgot to mention, it also depends how "out" of band your OOB needs > to be. We use Cie

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 11:54, James Bensley wrote: > I forgot to mention, it also depends how "out" of band your OOB needs > to be. We use Ciena 6500s for our DWDM infrastructure and they have a > wayside channel (like various DWDM vendors), so it's a separate > channel over the same physical

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread James Bensley
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 09:50, Saku Ytti wrote: > I think WAN indeed is very market situational, and if you need to > support world, it is beneficial to have solution which supports many > WAN options, without needing external boxes and external power bricks. > We try to do just ethernet, but

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread James Bensley
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:26, Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote: > > > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I > > used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and > > they work fairly well but the price

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > In some DCs I've done mutual OOB swaps with other telcos in the same > suite, this is usually cheap or free (excluding the one time xconnect We consciously decided to not ask or accept OOB swaps, because of fear that they might be provisioned outside processes which might make it

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread James Bensley
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 14:38, Alan Hannan wrote: > > I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager. > > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used > portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work > fairly

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-19 Thread James Bensley
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:26, Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote: > > > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I > > used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and > > they work fairly well but the price

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Erik Sundberg
Perle IOLAN SCS series is great. We have them all over the United States. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jun Tanaka Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:52 AM To: nanog@nanog.org; Alan Hannan ; NANOG Subject: Re: Console Servers How about SMART CS series by Seiko solutions? https://www.seiko

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Jun Tanaka
How about SMART CS series by Seiko solutions? https://www.seiko-sol.co.jp/en/products/console-server/ -- Jun Tanaka - NetComBB/S.N.I

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Ryan Hamel
On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:04 AM To: Sameer Khosla Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Console Servers a vote for (so far so good) the nodegrid ZPE devices. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM Sameer Khosla mailto:skho...@neutraldata.com>> wrote: My fa

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Matthew Huff
If anyone is looking for a product that is reasonably priced and is still being produced/update, the ADVA Optical (aka MRV, aka Xyplex) console servers still work great https://www.advaoptical.com/en/products/network-infrastructure-assurance/lx-series From their specs: 4, 8, 16, 32 and 48

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
a vote for (so far so good) the nodegrid ZPE devices. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM Sameer Khosla wrote: > My favorite are the lantronix SLC console servers. Fairly bullet-proof, > they are one of those devices that just work. Can usually be picked up > used ~$300 for 32 o

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Sameer Khosla
My favorite are the lantronix SLC console servers. Fairly bullet-proof, they are one of those devices that just work. Can usually be picked up used ~$300 for 32 or 48 port varieties in good condition if you aren’t in the biggest hurry. Sk. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Alan Hannan Sent

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Tim Pozar
I have been deploying Cyclades TS3000 boxes that I can sometimes find for about $75 each on eBay. The down side is the firmware is a bit old so the SSH daemon doesn't really support current ciphers. The other downside is the CLI ia a bit cumbersome. Tim On 9/18/18 8:43 AM, Andrew Latham wrote:

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Andrew Latham
Alan There are maybe too many options out there. The used Cyclades are the lowest cost entry point. An ideal solution might be https://freetserv.github.io/ but some assembly required. I have Lantronix OOB solutions in my lab. Most modern servers come with some SOL options so I will assume this is

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Louis Kowolowski
> From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:49 AM > To: Alan Hannan > Cc: NANOG > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Console Servers > > I'm deploying new to me Cisco 2811s for console and OOB access. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Matt Harris
I'm a big fan of Raritan's DSX2 gear. Access to serial via ssh or web interface, and the web interface is HTML5, not Java, which is a big advantage if you ever want to use that. I use a bunch of them in production as well and they've been rock solid when I've needed them for managing Cisco,

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Alan Hannan wrote: > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm deploying new to me Cisco 2811s for console and OOB access. > Agree. 2811, 2850s and 3845's are dirt cheap on ebay, the

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Merritt, Channing via NANOG
Look into OpenGear, we've tested out a couple different products that we've implemented in remote offices to replace our 2800's. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:49 AM To: Alan Hannan Cc: NANOG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Console Servers I'm

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Christopher E. Brown
LwntZg> > ---- > *From: *"Alan Hannan" > *To: *"NANOG" > *Sent: *Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:36:33 AM > *Subject: *Console Servers > > I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternat

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote: > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used > portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work > fairly well but the price is fairly high. I use the CM7100 and IM7100. Out of

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Alain Hebert
What we did (and it fits our needs)     SeaLevel (SeaLink Familly) with a Zotak.     We got both Win/Linux/BSD debugging/monitoring station (with 2 1Gbps, 1 MGMT 1 Mirror) and up to 16 serials ports in 1U.     ( With some DYI )     I'm sure you can get a better density if you check with

Re: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Mike Hammett
8:36:33 AM Subject: Console Servers I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager. Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work fairly well but the price i

RE: Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Stan Ouchakov
Depending on the budget, refurbished Cyclades off ebay do the job well. Very solid and proven products, we still run few dated from 2003 … -Stan From: NANOG On Behalf Of Alan Hannan Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:37 AM To: NANOG Subject: Console Servers I'd like your input

Console Servers

2018-09-18 Thread Alan Hannan
I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager. Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work fairly well but the price is fairly high. I use the CM7100 and

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-13 Thread Mike Hammett
The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "James Milko" <jmi...@gmail.com> To: "Randy Carpenter" <rcar...@network1.net> Cc: "Michael Starr" <ekim9...@gmail.com>, "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, Febru

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-12 Thread Brian Loveland
We have >100 AT units deployed and about 35 Verizon units and have had virtually no issues with call home via openvpn. All opengear ACM7xxx series. We are using machine to machine plans from marketplace.att.com. Used to be a great deal, the new plans are still “fair” and better than standard

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On 8 February 2018 at 06:48, Michael Rave wrote: > At all my sites I use Air Console with an OOB IP connection from another ISP. > Sometimes this is free since it is barely being used or I’m being charged a > very small amount . Other times I exchange an OOB IP

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Michael Rave
> On 6 Feb 2018, at 23:34, Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as > a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not, > what are the alternatives? If so, are ther

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread David Hubbard
We get static IP's to facilitate monitoring that the OOB remains online (easier to hit a non-changing IP than getting false positives for outage between an IP change and DDnS or whatever other type of update needs to happen), and it also makes IPSec VPN easy if your roving sysadmins know what

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Randy Carpenter
Static IPs are useful for connecting to the "home" site. If our main office is offline for some reason, it is nice to be able to quickly connect via cellular OoB. I agree that other solutions (dial-home, or private network) make sense for satellite sites. thanks, -Randy - On Feb 7,

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Chris Marget
Lots of references to static IPs from cellular providers for OoB access in this thread. Why? It seems like a dial-home scheme is an obvious solution here, whether it's Opengear's Lighthouse product, openvpn, or whatever... Do you all have a security directive that demands whitelisted IP

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread chris
signal, some buildings might be a little tough if theres alot of obstruction. hope this helps chris On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello NANOGers, > > > > I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular servic

RE: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Mann, Jason
At the sites, are you installing external antennae's? -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth McRae Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:25 AM To: Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Console Servers &

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Kenneth McRae
com> wrote: > > Hello NANOGers, > > > > I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as > a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not, > what are the alternatives? If so, are there any recommendations for > p

RE: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Edwin Pers
at 56k, but it's usable. Ed -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Milko Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:38 AM To: Randy Carpenter <rcar...@network1.net> Cc: Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com>; nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Su

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread David Hubbard
Going to depend entirely on the data center. I've got OpenGear boxes deployed in a variety of places, using Verizon LTE with static IP. One Level 3 colo I'm in I had to buy a high gain directional antenna to get the signal strength up above -80, where below that you're lucky to get a

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Pennington, Scott
Carpenter Cc: Michael Starr; nanog Subject: Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers How is cell reception in multi-story data centers/carrier hotels? Good enough for remote management? JM

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread James Milko
How is cell reception in multi-story data centers/carrier hotels? Good enough for remote management? JM

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread Randy Carpenter
. There have been some issues with cellular stability in some releases. thanks, -Randy - On Feb 6, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Michael Starr ekim9...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello NANOGers, > > > > I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as > a di

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-07 Thread James Cutts
18 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello NANOGers, > >> > >> > >> > >> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular > service as > >> a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-06 Thread Michael Starr
irst.> > >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello NANOGers, >> >> >> >> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as >> a disaster out-of-band management solution in

Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-06 Thread Andrew Latham
Almost exactly a year ago https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2017-February/090293.html On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr <ekim9...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello NANOGers, > > > > I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as >

Console Servers & Cellular Providers

2018-02-06 Thread Michael Starr
Hello NANOGers, I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not, what are the alternatives? If so, are there any recommendations for pay-as-you-go cellular service? Apologies if this is too