Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 12:24 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: > On 2 Mar 2017, at 9:55, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: > > > Currently, I have 3 devices connected. :) > > You could have one or more botted machines launching outbound DDoS > attacks, potentially filling up the NAT translation table and/or

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Dann Schuler wrote: > Just a quick sanity check here since I know we can occasionally overlook > the simple things. You have updated the firmware to the latest available > version correct? Have you checked for any odd services like QoS, > parental controls or

RE: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Dann Schuler
aar...@gvtc.com> Cc: <nanog@nanog.org> <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Consumer networking head scratcher This all goes away when he reconnects his old router from what I remember... If that is the case, then I would concentrate my effort on the new router, and its functionality (o

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread David Bass
This all goes away when he reconnects his old router from what I remember... If that is the case, then I would concentrate my effort on the new router, and its functionality (or lack of). Could be something simple that you are missing on it as a setting, or assuming it works a certain way when

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Mark Wiater
On 3/1/2017 11:28 AM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: At random times, my Windows machines (Win 7 and Win 10, attached to the network via WiFi, 5GHz) lose connectivity to the Internet. They can continue to access internal resources, such as the router's admin interface. To the point of Windows reporting no

RE: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Aaron Gould
Nat translation limits might not only be related to his first hop nat device In the home, but these days with the exhaustion of ipv4, the second hop carrier grade nat (cgnat) device in his upstream provider could be limiting also. I run a cgnat for an isp and allow 2500 ports per customer

RE: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Aaron Gould
What's the old router make/model ? What's the new router make/model ? -Aaron -Original Message- From: Ryan Pugatch [mailto:r...@lp0.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:27 PM To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Consumer networking head scratcher The

RE: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-02 Thread Aaron Gould
That's strange... it's like the TTL on all Windows IP packets are decrementing more and more as time goes on causing you to get less and less hops into the internet I wonder if it's a bug/virus/malware affecting only your windows computers. -Aaron

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 12:24:38PM +0700, Roland Dobbins wrote: > On 2 Mar 2017, at 9:55, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: > > >Currently, I have 3 devices connected. :) > > What about DNS issues? Are you sure that you really have a > networking issue, or are you having intermittent DNS resolution >

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 2 Mar 2017, at 9:55, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: Currently, I have 3 devices connected. :) You could have one or more botted machines launching outbound DDoS attacks, potentially filling up the NAT translation table and/or getting squelched by your broadband access provider with layer-4

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Next --> On March 1, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 09:29 PM, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: Each device associated with the AP consumes memory. Small low-end routers don't typically come with much memory. If you've got a lot of devices associated with

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 09:29 PM, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: > Each device associated with the AP consumes memory. Small low-end > routers don't typically come with much memory. If you've got a lot of > devices associated with the AP you will run out of memory. I'm not > sure how many devices

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Each device associated with the AP consumes memory. Small low-end routers don't typically come with much memory. If you've got a lot of devices associated with the AP you will run out of memory. I'm not sure how many devices you're connecting, though. Three will not cause this problem. 30 might.

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 06:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > On 2017-03-01 11:28, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > > > At random times, my Windows machines (Win 7 and Win 10, attached to the > > network via WiFi, 5GHz) lose connectivity to the Internet. > > > For what it's worth, the router is a

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-03-01 11:28, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > At random times, my Windows machines (Win 7 and Win 10, attached to the > network via WiFi, 5GHz) lose connectivity to the Internet. > For what it's worth, the router is a Linksys EA7300 that I just picked > up. Way back when, I have a netgear

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 03:58 PM, iam...@gmail.com wrote: > On many non-windows OS (Mac OSX, Linux, FreeBSD etc.) you can specify > ICMP > traceroute using -I: > > traceroute -I google.com > > I wonder if this would replicate your experience with Windows tracert Definitely on my list to

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread iam...@gmail.com
On many non-windows OS (Mac OSX, Linux, FreeBSD etc.) you can specify ICMP traceroute using -I: traceroute -I google.com I wonder if this would replicate your experience with Windows tracert

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 02:57 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > > So in that case, I would be back to my original issue where I stop being > > able to pass traffic to the Internet, and when that happens my > > traceroute always dies

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > So in that case, I would be back to my original issue where I stop being > able to pass traffic to the Internet, and when that happens my > traceroute always dies at the same hop. After disconnecting and > reconnecting, the same

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 02:04 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 01:23 PM, Aaron Gould wrote: > >> That's strange... it's like the TTL on all Windows IP packets are > >> decrementing more and more as time goes on causing you to get less and > >> less hops into the internet >

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:04:07 -0500, William Herrin said: > I have no information about whether comcast blocks pings to its routers. All the Comcast gear in the path from my home router to non-Comcast addresses will quite cheerfully rate-limit answer both pings and traceroutes.

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread William Herrin
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, at 01:23 PM, Aaron Gould wrote: >> That's strange... it's like the TTL on all Windows IP packets are >> decrementing more and more as time goes on causing you to get less and >> less hops into the internet Hi Ryan, Windows tracert uses ICMP echo-request packets to trace

Re: Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
The issue doesn't happen with my previous router, and I've tested multiple computers (one that isn't mine.) It doesn't seem like it decrements over time.. it just dies sooner as I trace further up the path. I can consistently die at the 7th hop if I try to go to Google, but if I trace to the 6th

Consumer networking head scratcher

2017-03-01 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Hi everyone, I've got a real head scratcher that I have come across after replacing the router on my home network. I thought I'd share because it is a fascinating issue to me. At random times, my Windows machines (Win 7 and Win 10, attached to the network via WiFi, 5GHz) lose connectivity to