RE: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-27 Thread Siegel, David
CenturyLink 1025 Eldorado Blvd Broomfield, CO 80021 p: 720.888.0953 m: 520.229.7627 e: dave.sie...@centurylink.com -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Mezei Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:35 PM To: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Def

RE: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-23 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jacques.lat...@cira.ca wrote: From: Jacques Latour ISP: Anybody offering services over the internet, including Transit Providers. Transit Provider: An internet service "transit" where the whole Internet can reach your advertised network addresses. --

RE: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-23 Thread Jacques Latour
Behalf Of Miles Fidelman Sent: November 22, 2017 11:29 PM To: Luke Guillory Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider Well yes, but functionally, how is IP transport sufficiently different to make it an "information service" rather than a "telecomm

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Well yes, but functionally, how is IP transport sufficiently different to make it an "information service" rather than a "telecommunications service?"  At least that's the argument I'd make against reclassifying access services. Miles On 11/22/17 9:24 PM, Luke Guillory wrote: Those normall

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Luke Guillory
Those normally come with ASRs and a tariff from the regulated side of things. At least from my experience anyway. Sent from my iPad On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Miles Fidelman mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>> wrote: On 11/22/17 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 P

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 11/22/17 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This prombpted the following

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Thomas Edwards
Regarding transit and traffic exchange, in today’s FCC Declaratory Ruling: 166. Deregulating Internet Traffic Exchange. Today, we return to the pre-Title II Order status quo by classifying broadband Internet access service as an information service, and in doing so, reverse the extension of Tit

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an > information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This > prombpted the following question which isn't about the FCC action

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ? Just curious to see if there are agreed upon definitions from the network operators's point of view. -- Different parts of the sa

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Javier J
I can't seem to find the answer for this. But I'm curious as to what exactly is proposed. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an > information service instead of Telecomm

Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This prombpted the following question which isn't about the FCC action per say. This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ? Cogent for instance acts