Here's a few more resources:
http://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/
http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/
Frank
-Original Message-
From: shawn wilson [mailto:ag4ve...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:27 PM
To: i...@cymru.com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Re: Geoip
On May 24, 2013, at 10:47 AM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:
On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Really? Which ones? I
If anyone is interrested, here's a little Perl CLI util to lookup what
countries registered networks within a block. There's no documentation
yet, it's a .pl where it should probably be a command with a makefile
installer, and Net::CIDR overlaps Net::IP. At any rate, hopefully it
is useful to
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen andreas.lar...@ip-only.se wrote:
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution.
IP dosen't reside in countries,
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Regards,
-drc
If we continue to support and build tools around this geolocation based
ip-dravel, we give people a false notion that this is something we should
do.
Identify users with some other means that Geoip
Couple of things comes to mind.
* normal postage mail that they have to collect at their home and
On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen andreas.lar...@ip-only.se
wrote:
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution.
IP dosen't reside in countries,
True, according to (at
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen andreas.lar...@ip-only.se
wrote:
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80%
On May 23, 2013, at 23:49 , bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen andreas.lar...@ip-only.se
wrote:
The whole
Just because I have operations in one region does not preclude me
from having operations
in other regions. YMMV of course.
/bill
That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE
On 13-05-24 02:57, Owen DeLong wrote:
That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE or
ARIN and use them in both locations, or, obtain addresses from both RIPE and
ARIN and use them in their
I knew this would come up. Actually I'm surprised and glad it waited until
I got a solution first.
I'll address a few points:
- this is mainly to stop stupid things from sending packets from countries
we will probably never want to do business with (I'm looking mainly at that
big country under
On May 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Andreas Larsen andreas.lar...@ip-only.se wrote:
If we continue to support and build tools around this geolocation based
ip-dravel, we give people a false notion that this is something we should
do.
...
Or just get rid of the whole idea and realize that the
I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:
On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Really? Which ones? I thought they were only issued to organizations that
had operations in regions.
On May 24, 2013, at 00:28 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca
wrote:
On 13-05-24 02:57, Owen DeLong wrote:
That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE or
ARIN and use them
On May 24, 2013, at 01:13 , shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
I knew this would come up. Actually I'm surprised and glad it waited until I
got a solution first.
I'll address a few points:
- this is mainly to stop stupid things from sending packets from countries we
will probably
You're thinking like an engineer.
Think like a marketer.
They expect less than 1% response on paper mail advertising.
Now, compare and contrast your idea of a reasonable confidence level
and theirs.
--
-Barry Shein
The World | b...@theworld.com |
On May 24, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Paul Kelly :: Blacknight wrote:
Just because I have operations in one region does not preclude me
from having operations
in other regions. YMMV of course.
/bill
That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
regions,
What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of
writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop
through the block. But I think I'll have to be smarter than just a simple
loop not to get blocked and I figure I'm not the first to want to do this.
I've
On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of
writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop
through the block. But I think I'll have to be smarter than just a simple
loop not to
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of
writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop
through the
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/apnic/stats/apnic/
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/
I've used the MaxMind Lite geo-ip database plus some perl modules and a BGP
table to get something fairly close. Anything in the BGP table that was
larger than a /20 I split into /20's. For my use case, this was close
enough. I then grabbed 30 or so IP's within the range and geo-ip mapped
them.
On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in
historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what
is current. So if a block hasn't changed for 10 years, it'll be in the
RIPE dataset vs with the
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in
historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what
is current. So if a block
This may be just a case of getting what you pay for, but Maxmind marks
entire netblocks as proxies, puts 'em in the wrong country, and
ignores repeated efforts by the registrant of the address space to set
the record straight. The problem comes when people actually do stuff
with the information,
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. IP dosen't reside in countries, they
are routable adresses that can reside everywhere, I guess soon on mars
even.
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