Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-20 Thread Dan Luedtke
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:40:45 -0800 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Setting up a proper IPv6 subnet and unique gateway for each VM is probably insane, but, potentially less insane than some other alternatives. I second that! I give out a proper configured /64 to every customer regardless of

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-19 Thread Dylan N
IIRC, EDIS, at least,will give you large blocks and delegate reverse DNS authority (+ assign your v6 block to your RIPE handle/info) if you ask. On 11/18/2012 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Dear NANOG@, I came across an interesting problem in trying to find an affordable KVM

Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Dear NANOG@, I came across an interesting problem in trying to find an affordable KVM provider with IPv6 support. It seems like several rather major and reputable providers in the value sector do claim to have IPv6 support, but once you get your IPv6 addresses or subnets from them, you might be

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/18/2012 02:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: All I'm asking for, are sane and short addresses and/or a saner /112, don't really care if it's still a shared /48 underneath. How do you define sane, and why do you care? Doug

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, I've tried contacting them in an effort to receive any kind of a proper IPv6 address without the plaintext IPv4 embedment, but they've given me all sorts of crazy and (IMHO) far-sketched excuses; from not wanting to maintain a separate database of IPv6 addresses/subnets, and from lack of

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Brandon Ross
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: I came across an interesting problem in trying to find an affordable KVM provider with IPv6 support. Does affordable mean cheap?... I've tried contacting them in an effort to receive any kind of a proper IPv6 address without the plaintext

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Bryan Fields
On 11/18/12 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: edis.at gives you an IPv4 address of, for example, 158.255.21x.xxx, and the IPv6 /112 that you get is 2a03:f80:ed15:158:255:21x:xxx:0/112 (really a /48), with 2a03:0f80:ed15::1 as the gateway. Vote with your dollars and find a provider with

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bryan Fields wrote: On 11/18/12 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: edis.at gives you an IPv4 address of, for example, 158.255.21x.xxx, and the IPv6 /112 that you get is 2a03:f80:ed15:158:255:21x:xxx:0/112 (really a /48), with 2a03:0f80:ed15::1 as the gateway. By KVM,

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread John Levine
What's anyone really going to do with more than a few IP addresses on a VPS anyway? Give every web site its own IP address, rather than using virtual hosts, I expect. On the other hand, I suppose if someone has more than a a few dozen web sites on a single VPS, more likely than not something

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: It seems insane to try to setup a proper IPv6 subnet and unique gateway for each VM, so I've been thinking something similar to what the host being complained about here has done is the only way to go. Not down to the detail

Re: Long and unabbreviatable IPv6 addresses with random overloaded bits, vs. tunnelbroker

2012-11-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 18, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Bryan Fields wrote: On 11/18/12 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: edis.at gives you an IPv4 address of, for example, 158.255.21x.xxx, and the IPv6 /112 that you get is