Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread iHate SORBS
Network Operators Unite Against SORBS Do you, or have you had problems with SORBS? Tired of being able to do nothing about it? Sick of opening a trouble ticket, only to get delisted weeks later? I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing dnsbl.sorbs.net until

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:35:11 -0700 iHate SORBS ihateso...@gmail.com wrote: I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes. This doesn't seem like a network issue. You probably want the mailops list.

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:35:11 PDT, iHate SORBS said: I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes. You *do* realize your beef isn't with SORBS, it's with the mail operators that are using that as part

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Brielle Bruns
How about... Network Operators Against Whiny Mail Operators Who Have Nothing Better To Do With Their Time But Carry Out Personal Vendettas? NOAWMOWHNBTDWTRBCOPV --Original Message-- From: iHate SORBS To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS Sent: Oct 12

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Andrew Kirch
On 10/12/2010 8:35 AM, iHate SORBS wrote: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS Do you, or have you had problems with SORBS? Tired of being able to do nothing about it? Sick of opening a trouble ticket, only to get delisted weeks later? I am calling on all Network Operators to stand

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Scott Howard
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM, iHate SORBS ihateso...@gmail.com wrote: I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes. What sort of changes are you suggesting? Suggesting a block unless they make

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howard wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM, iHate SORBS ihateso...@gmail.com wrote: I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes. What sort of changes are

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Ken Chase
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:25:23AM -0700, Scott Howard said: I'm no fan of SORBS, but at the end of the day (ignoring the issues like they had last week) they do what they say they do. Disagree. I have followed all the quasi RFC's Mich* Sullivan quotes to get my blocks unlisted, and after a

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread Bret Clark
On 10/12/2010 12:46 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I kinda-sortta feel like many others who have posted here. This is a mail thing, not netops. Grow a pair and post under your own name. Is it even on-topic for NANOG? Etc. I even started typing a message to the effect of: even though I

Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

2010-10-12 Thread John Adams
Really the best thing to do is to just leave SORBS alone. The more idiotic bans they put into place with demands for $50 per IP per incident, the less trustworthy of an RBL they become. Most large network operations will end up ignoring them, or if they do use the data from their RBL, they will