Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-11 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 22:15, Filip Hruska wrote: > * OVH is also a home ISP - just in France though; but not sure if/how > APNIC separated OVH as an ISP and OVH as a server provider. > I think it's all under the same ASN (might be wrong though) Hi, OVH ISP uses a slightly weird set-up: - sepa

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Randy Bush
> Labs.APNIC has a pretty cool system to measure this kind of stuff by > deploying specially crafted google ads, see "How Big is that Network?" which should have been titled "how many eyeballs in that network"

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 3 Oct 2017, at 7:17 am, Eric Dugas wrote: > > For some reason my previous email was empty. > > What I wrote: > > "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... > > e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users > if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 3 Oct 2017, at 6:57 am, Jacques Latour wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adoption report for Canada and the data I > use comes largely from APNIC (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec/CA) and > (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/CA). > > Labs.APNIC has a pretty co

RE: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Jacques Latour
; Subject: Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada > > On 2 October 2017 at 16:17, Eric Dugas > wrote: > > > > > > e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 > > users if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https:/

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Harald Koch
On 2 October 2017 at 16:17, Eric Dugas wrote: > > > e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users > if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? > I have one IPv4 and five users in my household... -- Harald (teksavvy customer)

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Eric Dugas
For some reason my previous email was empty. What I wrote: "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? Also, Allstream/Zayo AS15290 has a lot of IPs but it'

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Filip Hruska
Hi, There are various reasons that might be causing this: * Lots of VPNs on OVH network * OVH offers "desktop-as-a-service" and from what I understand it's quite popular * OVH is also a home ISP - just in France though; but not sure if/how APNIC separated OVH as an ISP and OVH as a server provi

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2017-10-02 21:57, Jacques Latour wrote: The question I have is why does OVH come #6 with an estimated population of 1,480,927 behind its ASN? Remember these are actual placement of ads. Should I count those users as part of my stats? I would say VPN - OVH has cheap servers and is quite po

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Eric Dugas

Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Fulton
Hi Jack, As OVH is a data centre, I find that extraordinary if eyeballs were the cost. VPN's may be popular but that seems excessive. Probably bots of some sort, scraping the internet. -- Stephen On 2017-10-02 3:57 PM, Jacques Latour wrote: Hi all! I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adop

Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada

2017-10-02 Thread Jacques Latour
Hi all! I'm working on our IPv6 and DNSSEC adoption report for Canada and the data I use comes largely from APNIC (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/dnssec/CA) and (https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/CA). Labs.APNIC has a pretty cool system to measure this kind of stuff by deploying specially crafte