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ontracts instead of an open infrastructure because they get the big payday. Steven Naslund Chicago IL >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:43 AM >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject:

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where the city gets their share of the money for essentially locking out the competition. Steven Naslund Chicago IL >-Original Message- >From: UpTide . [mailto:upt...@live.com] >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:55 AM >To: Naslund, Steve >Subject: Re: Free access to

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instead of an open infrastructure because they get the big payday. Steven Naslund Chicago IL >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:43 AM >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Free access

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t> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:39:43 AM Subject: RE: Free access to measurement network Not if you are in an RLEC controlled territory you can't. They are protected monopolies by definition. You could do fixed wireless but not real cost effective to deploy i

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. Steven Naslund Chicago IL >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:28 AM >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network > >Anyone can roll their own wi

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IL >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:05 AM >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network > >BTW: There are no government-enforced monopolies anywhere

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ich very few see the real value in. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:05 AM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network BTW: There are no government-enforced mon

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the real value in. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:05 AM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network BTW: There are no government-enforced monopolies anywhere in the US

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ansencorp.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:03:52 AM Subject: RE: Free access to measurement network Yes, the fact that both the city I work in and the town I live in have local govt-enforced monopolies re

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...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:23 AM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be supporting those options with their wallets. They don't. - Mike Hammett

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...@gmail.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 1:46:19 PM Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network On 12/16/17, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > That project was paid for by ARRA funds and

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nge > > The Brothers WISP > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lee" <ler...@gmail.com> > To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:16:38 PM > Subject: Re: Free access to

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> My point was that consumers voted out thousands of independents by > taking service from incumbents instead of independents. Thousands have > closed up shop. Where independents are available, it's still tough > getting customers if the incumbents have a service that mostly works > (over say 5 to

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quot; <ler...@gmail.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:16:38 PM Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network On 12/16/17, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > It's a consumer thing. If

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t; > - Original Message - > > From: "Max Tulyev" <max...@netassist.ua> > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:43:54 AM > Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network > > So for my point of view, better solution is to push some l

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rtualized.org> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:58:19 AM Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network Mike, On Dec 16, 2017, 4:23 PM +0100, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net>, wrote: > It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be &

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You been in contact with the guys at Samknows.com ? On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 at 15:09, Janusz Jezowicz wrote: > Hello, > > Feel free to shoot me down if you think I am posting against the rules of > this mailing list but I think it may be helpful for some guys here. > > We

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Mike, On Dec 16, 2017, 4:23 PM +0100, Mike Hammett , wrote: > It's a consumer thing. If consumers wanted more options, they would be > supporting those options with their wallets. They don’t. The report Valdis quoted said "More than 129 million people are limited to a single

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quot; <max...@netassist.ua> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:43:54 AM Subject: Re: Free access to measurement network So for my point of view, better solution is to push some law that ease access to the buildings for ISPs. 15.12.17 19:40, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu пише:

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So for my point of view, better solution is to push some law that ease access to the buildings for ISPs. 15.12.17 19:40, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu пише: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 07:47:42 -0500, Dovid Bender said: >> What kind of internet are these devices on? With Net Neutrality gone here >> in the US

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 07:47:42 -0500, Dovid Bender said: > What kind of internet are these devices on? With Net Neutrality gone here > in the US it would be a good way to measure certain services such as SIP to > see which ISP's if any are tampering with packets. Given previous history, the answer

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Are these your customer-owned routers? -mel beckman > On Dec 15, 2017, at 5:24 AM, Janusz Jezowicz wrote: > > Since these are mostly end-user routers they are on regular ISPs (like > Comcast, Verizon etc). I believe this could be quite suitable for > monitoring net

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I would love access to this. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Janusz Jezowicz wrote: > > Hello, > > Feel free to shoot me down if you think I am posting against the rules of > this mailing list but I think it may be helpful for some guys here. > >

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this sounds like ripe-atlas... only less nodes? Seems interesting, you should publish an API ... oh you do: http://probeapi.speedchecker.xyz/ you might consider donating your data to the measurement-lab.org people ... eh? I wonder if/how the QOE tests could inform things like the FTC's efforts