Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Landon Stewart
On Mar 2, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 05:53:33PM +, Naslund, Steve wrote: Don't know who this is but the legalities are pretty clear I think. The DC is not required to know what data is stored but if the cops can prove that someone DID know

Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Mike A
On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 05:53:33PM +, Naslund, Steve wrote: Don't know who this is but the legalities are pretty clear I think. The DC is not required to know what data is stored but if the cops can prove that someone DID know what was stored, that person can be criminally charged. IANAL

Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Part of it depends on if the DC was doing managed services as well. If they are just a space tenant then their exposure can be limited. But if it was their servers that will be a little different. Not saying it would make the difference, but opens another avenue to be argued. To me it’s

RE: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Naslund, Steve
Don't know who this is but the legalities are pretty clear I think. The DC is not required to know what data is stored but if the cops can prove that someone DID know what was stored, that person can be criminally charged. IANAL but I have worked with LE on a similar case and that is how it

RE: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Matthew Huff
: 914-460-4039 aim: matthewbhuff    | Fax:   914-694-5669 -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Naslund, Steve Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:54 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child

Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread jim deleskie
Canadian and US laws are similar. But I'll leave it up to the lawyers to figure it all out, happily I'm no where near this, but it being a small industry here, I suspect I have friends that are dealing with some crap right now On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote:

Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread John Levine
In article 1c6ee78f6c1e400289fa7797f3ba6...@pur-vm-exch13n1.ox.com you write: Given the size and that the data is stored in encrypted RAR files, I wonder if they just busted a Usenet service provider rather than a P2P / file sharing site. Unlikely. There aren't that many large usenet providers,

RE: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse material

2015-03-02 Thread Naslund, Steve
Here is what is going to hurt or help the cops case. The volume of information is so expansive that in order to store and analyze the data safely and securely, police had to purchase storage hardware similar to what was used by Canadian military forces in Afghanistan. To access the files, many