Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-28 Thread bmanning
this for a fact because I was around this discussion in the US Air Force. Steven Naslund -Original Message- From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM To: Jeroen Massar Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique

Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-28 Thread Owen DeLong
...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM To: Jeroen Massar Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2012-09-20 16:01 , John Curran wrote: It's very clear

Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-28 Thread bmanning
this discussion in the US Air Force. Steven Naslund -Original Message- From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM To: Jeroen Massar Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8

Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-27 Thread Owen DeLong
...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM To: Jeroen Massar Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2012-09-20 16:01 , John Curran wrote: It's very clear

Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread John Curran
On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2012-09-20 16:01 , John Curran wrote: It's very clear in the ARIN region as well. From the ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM), https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four11 - 4.1. General Principles 4.1.1.

RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread Naslund, Steve
Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40 AM To: Jeroen Massar Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2012-09-20 16:01 , John Curran wrote

RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread Schiller, Heather A
your prefix is arguably, only a small part of being reachable/routable. --Heather -Original Message- From: Naslund, Steve [mailto:snasl...@medline.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:56 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8

Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread Cutler James R
On Sep 20, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Naslund, Steve snasl...@medline.com wrote: Wouldn't you say that there is a very real expectation that when you request address space through ARIN or RIPE that it would be routable? I certainly would not say that. I would say that I get addresses from the

RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread Naslund, Steve
for globally unique but non-routable space is most definitely an edge case, not the norm. Steven Naslund -Original Message- From: Cutler James R [mailto:james.cut...@consultant.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:36 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIRs give out unique addresses

RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...)

2012-09-20 Thread Edward Lewis
At 9:56 -0500 9/20/12, Naslund, Steve wrote: I suppose that ARIN would say that they do not guarantee routability because they do not have operational control of Internet routers. ARIN does not provide transit - how could they guarantee or even just provide best-effort routability?