Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing]

In a message written on Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:21:53AM -0500, Fletcher Kittredge wrote: > Numbers for building fiber optic systems are out there if you do the > research. Joining the FTTH Council is a good start. One thing to recognise > is that the numbers vary widely based on what is being

Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing]

> On Jan 10, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Fletcher Kittredge wrote: > > Numbers for building fiber optic systems are out there if you do the > research. Joining the FTTH Council is a good start. One thing to recognise > is that the numbers vary widely based on what is being built and

Re: Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing]

Numbers for building fiber optic systems are out there if you do the research. Joining the FTTH Council is a good start. One thing to recognise is that the numbers vary widely based on what is being built and where it is being built. There are large regional, technology, and product variations.

Fiber Costs [Was: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing]

I don't know about the rest of the list, but I find these numbers fascinating. There's probably not that many people who are allowed to share them, but if more could I think that would be educational for a lot of folks. In a message written on Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 08:37:19AM -0500, Jared Mauch

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

It is interesting to see the differences. For instance to put my unit in bridge mode I just logged into it, said bridge mode, and rebooted it. That method was actually documented in their business class FAQ. I'm sure there are great differences in plant and capabilities. There's a lot of M

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 11:55:56 -0800 Owen wrote: OD> > On Jan 6, 2017, at 08:21 , Leo Bicknell wrote: OD> > At a past address I had Comcast Business (cable modem) service at OD> > a residential address, and then later downgraded it to Comcast OD> > Residential service. OD> > [...]

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

> On Jan 6, 2017, at 08:21 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > > In a message written on Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:51:26PM -0800, Paul B. Henson > wrote: >> I'd call my business FIOS "prosumer" ;). Honestly, I'm not sure why >> you'd get business FIOS over residential FIOS if you don't

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

In a message written on Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:51:26PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: > I'd call my business FIOS "prosumer" ;). Honestly, I'm not sure why > you'd get business FIOS over residential FIOS if you don't need static > IP addresses, at least if you're at an address where both are

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 05:16:43PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > maybe now would be a good time to ask your vz rep about this 'feature'? Hah. I asked Frontier right after the cutover and got the same Verizon smoke "Currently in the planning stages with no firm timeline for deployment."

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:57:10PM -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > Have been evaluating going to more consumerish-grade circuits like this > at remote locations, but this scenario is one that has kept me sticking > with the more traditional (and more expensive) SLA-bound circuits. I'd call my

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > From: Christopher Morrow > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:42 AM > > > > and think about it, you could get ipv6 on your network... the OP still > > doesn't have that native on his fios I bet. > > Yeah, sure, pour

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

> From: Matthew Black > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:41 AM > > I'm a Frontier FiOS customer in SoCal and have had trouble loading the > Google home page for weeks. Had trouble loading Gmail last night. When it's up, I rarely have connectivity issues. Of course, I have business class fios

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:52:15PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:49 AM > > > > Even if nothing else happens, calling in and reporting the problem *does* > > (or at least it *should*) set the clock running for any SLA-related

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

> From: Christopher Morrow > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:42 AM > > and think about it, you could get ipv6 on your network... the OP still > doesn't have that native on his fios I bet. Yeah, sure, pour salt on my still open wound ;).

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

> From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:49 AM > > Even if nothing else happens, calling in and reporting the problem *does* > (or at least it *should*) set the clock running for any SLA-related > compensation. I'm pretty sure FIOS doesn't have any contractual SLA's.

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

I'm a Frontier FiOS customer in SoCal and have had trouble loading the Google home page for weeks. Had trouble loading Gmail last night.

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > > On Jan 4, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > > > I solved this issue by making my own ISP. > > I’ve been thinking of the same in my underserved area. Labor is $5/foot > here

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

Last 18 hour outage I experienced got me a fantastic half month credit. It cost us more to pay me for the time I spent on hold than the credit was worth, so I no longer call them if we’re down and downdetector shows others in the area are too. We’re in the process of moving the circuit to a

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 00:28:57 -0800, "Paul B. Henson" said: > I'm about at the point where next time it goes down and it appears to be > a remote issue I'm not going to bother to call it in; I'll just cross my > fingers and hope it fixes itself within a day or so and only report it > if it

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

esday, January 4, 2017 8:50am To: "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net>, "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing Our model is 15k a mile all

RE: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

arise as a result of e-mail transmission. . -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:37 AM To: Baldur Norddahl Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing > On Jan 4, 2

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

> On Jan 4, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > I solved this issue by making my own ISP. I’ve been thinking of the same in my underserved area. Labor is $5/foot here and despite friends and colleagues telling me to move, it seems I have a sub-60 month

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

I solved this issue by making my own ISP. On 04-01-2017 12:10, Dovid Bender wrote: Whenever I call my local ISP with an issue I just make tier1 and tier2 dizzy so they escalate. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 06:56:13PM -0800,

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

Whenever I call my local ISP with an issue I just make tier1 and tier2 dizzy so they escalate. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 06:56:13PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > > Hopefully it won't be three days this time. > > Well, my

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:01:03AM +, Mel Beckman wrote: > If a Frontier tech is on this list, I ask you kindly figure out what > the blasted deal is with your vanishing ticket numbers. This has been > going on for MONTHS! The cynic in me wonders if somebody is trying to artificially inflate

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 06:56:13PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: > Hopefully it won't be three days this time. Well, my FIOS mysteriously came back online about 9:45pm, a bit over 18 hours after it mysteriously dropped offline. I happened to be in the wiring closet staring angrily at the ONT

Re: SoCal FIOS outage(?) / static IP readdressing

Every time I’ve opened a FIOS ticket, Frontier can never find the ticket later. I even escalated all the way to the president of Frontier. Someone in his office took all my info and discussed the problems at length, and finally gave me something like a $150 credit. Now I just pray it never