Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread John Sage
On 2/15/21 10:02 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote: Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming under federal regulation? Yes. This has been widely documented in

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread Rod Beck
: NANOG on behalf of Robert Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:17 AM To: Mark Tinka ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread Rod Beck
the system has faltered? It is transmission? Or generation? Or just everything in general?  From: NANOG on behalf of Cory Sell via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:34 AM To: Robert Jacobs ; Mark Tinka ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread Rod Beck
via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM To: Sean Donelan Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote: > Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. > > The extreme col

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread Jared Mauch
Almost exactly 4 years ago we were out up here in Michigan for over 120 hours after a wind storm took out power to 1 million homes. Large scale restoration takes time. When the load and supply are imbalanced it can make things worse as well. I'm hoping things return to normal soon but also am

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-16 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote: Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't reporting rolling blackouts.

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote: Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming under federal regulation? I suspect that trying to be self-sufficient works most of the time--but when you get

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Matthew Petach
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:50 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Cory Sell via NANOG wrote: > > adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on > failed > > in a massive way. > > Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. > > The extreme

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Yang Yu
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:49 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. sounds familiar, even connected to a much bigger grid http://www.caiso.com/Documents/Final-Root-Cause-Analysis-Mid-August-2020-Extreme-Heat-Wave.pdf

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Cory Sell via NANOG
Total population is a pretty big difference as you go north, as is how well infrastructure is actually prepared for snow/ice and cold temperatures in general. I’ve been without power all day and have no doubt I’ll cross the 24-hour mark here in a handful of hours. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Cory Sell via NANOG wrote: adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on failed in a massive way. Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
Electric prices on the Texas spot market are $9,000/MWh. Normally they are less than $15/MWh. During the summer months, Texas spot market prices have gone to zero because it has excess summertime wind turbine capacity. I suspect those are computer generated artificial prices, because there

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 06:34, Cory Sell wrote: Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100% capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 06:17, Robert Jacobs wrote: How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of course in an ice storm like

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Cory Sell via NANOG
have received this electronic message in > error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately. > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On Behalf Of > Mark Tinka > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:06 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivi

RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Robert Jacobs
connectivity declining due to blackouts On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional > borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power > outages elsewhere in the country. > > https://twitter.com/Pow

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote: Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Sean Donelan
Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes infrastructure planning failures are not due to

Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

2021-02-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
See also, regional maps here. Thanks to CAIDA and the IODA project. https://ioda.caida.org/ioda/dashboard On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 5:54 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > Not as bad as Myanmar (14%), Internet connectivity in Texas has been > declining today. According to NetBlocks, which normally monitors

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