Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-20 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Randy Bush (ra...@psg.com) on Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 03:16:21PM -0700: > > For legacy resource holders it is a problem but then it’s a > > bureaucratic issue rather technical and technology has a solution > > called SLURM. > > has arin not made it easier, lowering the legal insanity, for

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Gaurav Kansal via NANOG
> On 20-Oct-2023, at 00:35, nanog@nanog.org wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:56, Owen DeLong > wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:46, Owen DeLong via NANOG >> > wrote: A question for network operators out there that implement ROV…

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Randy Bush
>> has arin not made it easier, lowering the legal insanity, for legacy >> holders to obtain services? > Yes but they need to jump now if they want to take advantage of it, as > I understand it. arin has deep expertise in hurdles randy

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Fearghas Mckay
On 19 Oct 2023 at 17:16:21, Randy Bush wrote: > has arin not made it easier, lowering the legal insanity, for legacy > holders to obtain services? > Yes but they need to jump now if they want to take advantage of it, as I understand it. f

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Randy Bush
> For legacy resource holders it is a problem but then it’s a > bureaucratic issue rather technical and technology has a solution > called SLURM. has arin not made it easier, lowering the legal insanity, for legacy holders to obtain services? randy

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 1:37 pm, Owen DeLong wrote: > I ask because there was discussion at the ARIN meeting and Kevin Blumburg > made the suggestion that “in 2024, routes will not be accepted without > ROAs”. > As someone who was there, that’s misrepresentation of what Kevin said. Im sure he

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
I ask because there was discussion at the ARIN meeting and Kevin Blumburg made the suggestion that “in 2024, routes will not be accepted without ROAs”. I didn’t think this was likely, but as someone with resources for which I cannot create ROAs, it is a concern. So far, I haven’t really seen a

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 12:12, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > A quick check to my routing table suggests that I have 206700 > preferred routes (v4/v6) to notfound (unknown) destinations. So yeah I > don't think anyone can afford to do this right now. > I don’t think anyone can afford to ever do this,

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
A quick check to my routing table suggests that I have 206700 preferred routes (v4/v6) to notfound (unknown) destinations. So yeah I don't think anyone can afford to do this right now. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 at 05:49, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > A question for

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:56, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:46, Owen DeLong via NANOG > wrote: > >> A question for network operators out there that implement ROV… >> >> Is anyone rejecting RPKI unknown routes at this time? >> >> I know that it’s popular to reject RPKI invalid

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 at 11:46, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > A question for network operators out there that implement ROV… > > Is anyone rejecting RPKI unknown routes at this time? > > I know that it’s popular to reject RPKI invalid (a ROA exists, but doesn’t > match the route), but I’m

Re: Acceptance of RPKI unknown in ROV

2023-10-19 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
Assuming unknown encompasses no roa at all, im inclined to say most probably haven’t because that would break a lot of things because a lot of folks don’t have ROAs at all and some don’t seem to even have a plan around implementing them. J~ > On Oct 19, 2023, at 11:47, Owen DeLong via NANOG