Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Mar/19 13:18, Brandon Martin wrote: >   > > I haven't used Arista much at all really. We are currently swapping out our Juniper EX4550's and EX4600's for Arista's 7280SR switches, but this is purely for Layer 2 Ethernet customer aggregation in the data centre. The main issue we are

RE: Re: Arista Layer3 (Colton Conor)

2019-03-08 Thread Peter Kranz
These boxes are available with 3 different FIB options currently.. 7280R > 1M route 7280R2 (Jericho+) > 1.3M routes 7280R2K (Jericho+) > 2M routes On top of the base FIB capabilities, EOS 4.21.3F adds FIB compression and 2-to-1 route compression features that give quite a bit of

Re: Re: Arista Layer3 (Colton Conor)

2019-03-08 Thread Michael Starr
Colton Conor To: "Kaiser, Erich" Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Arista Layer3 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" So how does the 7280SR-48C6 compare to the SLX9540? They are the same Broadcom chipset right? So the real question, is how does the prod

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-08 Thread Brandon Martin
On 3/8/19 5:51 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 3/7/19 10:44 PM, Colton Conor wrote: So how does the 7280SR-48C6 compare to the SLX9540? They are the same Broadcom chipset right? So the real question, is how does the product differ in software? I just realized that the 7280SR is an Arista

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-08 Thread Brandon Martin
On 3/7/19 10:44 PM, Colton Conor wrote: So how does the 7280SR-48C6 compare to the SLX9540? They are the same Broadcom chipset right? So the real question, is how does the product differ in software? I think a 9540 would compare more directly against a Nexus 9k series device. They're

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-07 Thread Colton Conor
So how does the 7280SR-48C6 compare to the SLX9540? They are the same Broadcom chipset right? So the real question, is how does the product differ in software? On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > Agreed. > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:16 AM Brandon Martin > wrote: > >>

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-06 Thread Kaiser, Erich
Agreed. On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:16 AM Brandon Martin wrote: > On 3/6/19 12:36 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > > How much do these boxes cost? > > List is about $100k in North America for a 9640 with all the ports > "unlocked", full hardware kit (PSUs, fans, etc.) and some > maintenance/support.

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-06 Thread Brandon Martin
On 3/6/19 12:36 AM, Colton Conor wrote: How much do these boxes cost? List is about $100k in North America for a 9640 with all the ports "unlocked", full hardware kit (PSUs, fans, etc.) and some maintenance/support. Take whatever your standard Brocade/Extreme discount from that tends to

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-06 Thread Brandon Martin
On 3/6/19 3:05 AM, Dmitry Sherman wrote: Is there any reason to have 2M routes support for next 3 years? Full IPv4 table + full IPv6 table + multiple VRFs (BGP-VPN, etc.) plus lots of on-net deaggregates could well push you above 1M right now especially if your platform also shares that "1M"

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-06 Thread Dmitry Sherman
March 2019 at 0:47 To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: Arista Layer3 We have been using the 7280SR-48C6 for 2.5 years now. Just after Arista announced the full table BGP routing. Looking at the price / port there is nothing near Arista. We also use Cisco ASR1K and Juniper MX204 but the

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Colton Conor
How much do these boxes cost? On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 5:24 PM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > It would be worth your time to look at Extreme SLX9640 with advanced > routing license. > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM Roel Parijs wrote: > >> We have been using the 7280SR-48C6 for 2.5 years now. Just

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Kaiser, Erich
It would be worth your time to look at Extreme SLX9640 with advanced routing license. On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM Roel Parijs wrote: > We have been using the 7280SR-48C6 for 2.5 years now. Just after Arista > announced the full table BGP routing. > Looking at the price / port there is

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Roel Parijs
We have been using the 7280SR-48C6 for 2.5 years now. Just after Arista announced the full table BGP routing. Looking at the price / port there is nothing near Arista. We also use Cisco ASR1K and Juniper MX204 but these have far less capacity. When we first started, there were quite a few

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Dmitry Sherman
Thanks for info! -- Dmitry Sherman Interhost Networks Ltd dmi...@interhost.net Mobile: +972-54-3181182 Office: +972-74-7029881 Web: www.interhost.co.il On 05/03/2019, 21:26, "Saku Ytti" wrote: Hey Dmitry, > What do you think about Arista 7280SR (DCS-7280SR-48C6-M-R) as a BGP

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread nanog
Check out the 7280sr2k, which is actually 24*10G, 24*25G, 6*100G On 03/05/2019 08:55 PM, David Hubbard wrote: > I love the NCS5501, but once Arista gets the 2M-route capacity down into the > 48x10g format, I'd jump ship in a heartbeat; currently you have to do a much > larger chassis-based

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread David Hubbard
On 3/5/19, 2:28 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Saku Ytti" wrote: Hey Dmitry, > What do you think about Arista 7280SR (DCS-7280SR-48C6-M-R) as a BGP peering router with 3 x upstream with full route view in RIB (ipv4 + ipv6) and another IXP feed? > Considering switching from ASR9001

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Dmitry, > What do you think about Arista 7280SR (DCS-7280SR-48C6-M-R) as a BGP peering > router with 3 x upstream with full route view in RIB (ipv4 + ipv6) and > another IXP feed? > Considering switching from ASR9001 which is doing perfect work but has no > more ports left. > The price is

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread nanog
Those devices are awesome, I use those on the same usecase, and recommend them (I do not run pim, tho) On 03/05/2019 07:17 PM, Dmitry Sherman wrote: > Hello, > What do you think about Arista 7280SR (DCS-7280SR-48C6-M-R) as a BGP peering > router with 3 x upstream with full route view in RIB

Re: Arista Layer3

2019-03-05 Thread Dmitry Sherman
Hello, What do you think about Arista 7280SR (DCS-7280SR-48C6-M-R) as a BGP peering router with 3 x upstream with full route view in RIB (ipv4 + ipv6) and another IXP feed? Considering switching from ASR9001 which is doing perfect work but has no more ports left. The price is very competitive

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-12-01 Thread Nicholas Buraglio
While I am personally a fan of mikrotik for their ridiculously inexpensive MPLS features, their total and complete lack of ISIS is a show stopper in a lot of cases (and makes me sad) and their v6 support is mostly-ok-but-still-wonky(which also makes me sad) - and ROS 7 has been "coming soon" in

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-12-01 Thread Frederik Kriewitz
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: > > So do we have any Arista L3 people out here that can share some negatives or positives? We're using the Arista 7280R with Jericho(+) chips as PE routers. We're happy with them. Stable operation, no serious

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-12-01 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > Jared, > > Which Arista box do you use for FTTH features? Whats the cost like as FTTH > boxes are usually inexpensive, and Arista is not know to be inexpensive > compared to something like Calix or Adtran. I

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-12-01 Thread Ruairi Carroll
Their L3 stuff is as stable as their L2 stuff, in general. MP-BGP and VRFs are a tiny bit bleeding edge/lacking features, however for plain OSPF/BGP, they're great. /Ruairi On 30 November 2017 at 18:36, Romeo Czumbil wrote: > So I've been using Arista as layer2

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Colton Conor
Jared, Which Arista box do you use for FTTH features? Whats the cost like as FTTH boxes are usually inexpensive, and Arista is not know to be inexpensive compared to something like Calix or Adtran. On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > > > On Nov 30,

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/30/17 13:00, Ken Chase wrote: > >Arista DCS-7280SRA-48C6 is a 1ru box.?? > > > >Has a nominally million route fib, Jericho+ 8GB of packet buffer. > >control-plane is 8GB of ram andAMD GX-424CC SOC which is 4 core 2.4ghz. > >We do direct fib injection with bird rather than the

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:38:53PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Jared Mauch wrote: > > Lots of folks also use MikroTik as well if the traffic is in the 1G > > range or so. > > mikrotik support for ipv6 is still dodgy: recursive next-hop is not > supported in bgp/ipv6: > >

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Nick Hilliard
Jared Mauch wrote: > Lots of folks also use MikroTik as well if the traffic is in the 1G > range or so. mikrotik support for ipv6 is still dodgy: recursive next-hop is not supported in bgp/ipv6: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=123964#p610239 ... and OSPFv3 routes with the

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Ken Chase
>Arista DCS-7280SRA-48C6 is a 1ru box.?? > >Has a nominally million route fib, Jericho+ 8GB of packet buffer. >control-plane is 8GB of ram andAMD GX-424CC SOC which is 4 core 2.4ghz. >We do direct fib injection with bird rather than the arista bgpd but the >control-plane is capable of

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/30/17 11:17, Ken Chase wrote: > Back to this discussion! :) Arista as a viable full-table PE router. Was > hoping > for better experience reports since last mention. > > To make the Q bit more general, are there any PE routers yet that can handle > 3-8 > full feeds and use an amp and 1U or

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Ken Chase
Thx. Rather steer clear of microtik for now however. Guess I shoulda mentioned a baseline 10G capability at least on 4 sfp+ ports (I know there's some 2port Microtiks too). Everyone's got gig-to-the-home now, I can't see how anyone plans 1G PE builds anymore. They'll be obsolete by the time

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Fredrik Korsbäck
On 2017-11-30 19:36, Romeo Czumbil wrote: So I've been using Arista as layer2 for quite some time, and I'm pretty happy with them. Kicking the idea around to turn on some Layer3 features but I've been hearing some negative feedback. The people that I did hear negative feedback don't use Arista

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > > Back to this discussion! :) Arista as a viable full-table PE router. Was > hoping > for better experience reports since last mention. > > To make the Q bit more general, are there any PE routers yet that can handle > 3-8 >

Re: Arista Layer3

2017-11-30 Thread Tyler Conrad
For Enterprise/DC, it works great. For service provider, they're not 100% yet. The main issue is going to be around VRFs, as there's no interaction between them (at least in the code version I'm on, that may have changed recently or be changing soon). They'll work great as a P-Router, but if you