On 2/22/21 11:26, Mel Beckman wrote:
What offended you? The term “Global Warmist”? It’s an accurate description of
people who hold that climate change is causing more frequent and severe
weather, due to heating of the atmosphere.
And your argument about “Forbes for something related to
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 08:44:32PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 20:28, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>
> > right: artificial sweeteners are safe, WMDs were in Iraq, and Anna Nicole
>
> Hope you meant to write 'unsafe', as the conspiracy theory is that
> aspartame is unsafe, the
The issue is that while there are lots of information out there detailing
the risks of variable rate supply plans, the majority of consumers are not
equipped to properly understand that risk; these are complex markets in the
best of times. Many of these companies are also borderline predatory in
You guys build how you want. At 6x7 we are building to prepare for possible
climactic shifts. The origin need not be anthropogenic, but that doesn’t look
good.
“Doing nothing” isn’t really an option, and “doing what republicans want
because they say so and they’re my dad” isn’t a good
Brandon,
Actually, no, I don’t have to do science to object to claims made by
scientists. Even when there is a consensus. I can simply cite data, and it is
the duty of the person making the claim to defend their theory.
If you’re going to defend it for them, then you need to cite countering
-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Brandon Svec via NANOG"
To: "Mel Beckman"
Cc: "Rich Kulawiec" , nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:43:22 PM
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Mon, Feb 22, 20
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM Mel Beckman wrote:
>
>
> Either weather events are getting worse, or they aren’t.
No, nothing is so black and white. Certainly not science.
> I provided solid evidence that they are diminishing.
No, you didn't. You shared an opinion piece written by the
OK, I looked closer. I see it is a self titled opinion piece so there is
that. Next, I see all the links in the article go to questionable sites
(not .edu or scientific organizations, etc.) except one cherry picked NOAA
stat for a single event type for a single year. Last, the writer is the
Rich,
Calling my opposing argument “trash”, and then falsely linking it to unrelated
theories on vaccines, evolution, moon landings, and dietary supplements, is
intellectually dishonest and professionally rude. Why don’t you respond to the
facts raised in the article? Does your religion not
ounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany@nanog.org>>
on behalf of Brandon Svec via NANOG mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 7:16 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to
What offended you? The term “Global Warmist”? It’s an accurate description of
people who hold that climate change is causing more frequent and severe
weather, due to heating of the atmosphere.
And your argument about “Forbes for something related to science” fails on the
classic logical
Saku,
I see that not one of your references addresses the facts pointed out by
Forbes. Rather than a shotgun response, can you counter the evidence cited that
disproves the claim that climate events are getting more frequent and severe?
it’s a fair topic for NANOG. The idea that
When I lived in Oklahoma, the mantra of the locals was "if you don't
like the weather, wait five minutes." As a member of a Boy Scout troop
in the northern part of the Sooner State, we were told, repeatedly, to
expect anything from broiling to deep freeze on our campouts.
One such outing was
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 20:28, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> right: artificial sweeteners are safe, WMDs were in Iraq, and Anna Nicole
Hope you meant to write 'unsafe', as the conspiracy theory is that
aspartame is unsafe, the science says it is safe.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 05:48:06PM +, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Sorry Global Warmists,
Right. Sure. Also, the earth is 6,000 years old (and flat), the moon
landings were faked, creationism is real, dinosaurs and humans co-existed,
vaccines cause autism, Elvis is alive, and...how does that line
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
>
> Sorry Global Warmists,
Stopped taking you seriously or reading further right there. Well, that and
linking to Forbes for something related to science.
Best.
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
>
> Sorry Global Warmists,
Stopped taking you seriously or reading further right there. Well, that and
linking to Forbes for something related to science.
Best.
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 19:57, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Sorry Global Warmists, But Extreme Weather Events Are Becoming Less Extreme
> Just about every type of extreme weather event is becoming less frequent and
> less severe in recent years as our planet continues its modest warming in the
> wake
Sorry Global Warmists, But Extreme Weather Events Are Becoming Less Extreme
Just about every type of extreme weather event is becoming less frequent and
less severe in recent years as our planet continues its modest warming in the
wake of the Little Ice Age. While global warming activists
connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:23:22PM +, Bret Clark wrote:
> Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold.
That was then; this is now.
As scientist Jeff Masters put it most of a decade ago:
The atmosphere I grew up with no longer exists.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:34:35AM -0800, Sabri Berisha wrote:
> With apologies to those on the list who still use mutt/pine etc.
1. "still"? Competent professionals with security awareness use text-only
email clients as a matter of basic self-defense. I trust it's obvious
why those of us who
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:23:22PM +, Bret Clark wrote:
> Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold.
That was then; this is now.
As scientist Jeff Masters put it most of a decade ago:
The atmosphere I grew up with no longer exists. My new motto
with
pass through in 2019 (somewhere around $80/kWh), I'm
> amazed anyone still uses them.
>
> V/r
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 10:26 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivi
energy rates they
had to pass through in 2019 (somewhere around $80/kWh), I'm amazed anyone still
uses them.
V/r
Tim
-Original Message-
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 10:26 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due
On 18/02/2021 7:54 am, Milt Aitken wrote:
> The bill arrived today. $391.26 got me 3459kwh. That is 11.3cents/kwh net
> for business power from Cobb EMC, who charges a good bit more than GPC (they
> buy a lot of their power from GPC). N the past, I’ve had GPC bills from
> customers’ homes
On 2/17/21 16:09, Ben Cannon wrote:
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2021/02/16/electricity-retailer-griddys-unusual-plea-to-texas-customers-leave-now-before-you-get-a-big-bill/
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:46 AM John Sage wrote:
> This article is an interest description of Texas electricity pricing for
> one provider and for the market in general:
>
On 2/17/21 2:37 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
I actually tend to believe that buried HVDC is the future of long-distance
power transmission.
We might be able to pull off that this transitions from a niche technology to
the mainstream, like we did with photovoltaics (at the cost of 200 G€).
Hi Sean,
> On 17. Feb 2021, at 21:58, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> That’s not how it works.
>
> https://www.bmwi.de/Redaktion/EN/Artikel/Energy/electricity-grids-of-the-future-01.html
Yes. This is fully consistent with what I said. This is
@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:56:06 -0800
We just run extension cords and don't have a transfer switch. It's pretty
surprising what you can run on about a kw. A gallon propane tank lasts close to
24 for us.
Mike
connectivity declining due to blackouts
- On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:21 AM, nanog wrote:
Hi,
Using the sample bill on the GA power website you linked, I see a bottom line
price of $76.17 for 606 kWh delivered to the customer. That is effectively
12.57 cents per kWh.
Utilities (both
what are you using?
-- Original message --
From: Michael Thomas
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:56:06 -0800
We just run extension cords and don't have a transfer switch. It's pretty
surprising what
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Carsten Bormann wrote:
That’s not how it works.
https://www.bmwi.de/Redaktion/EN/Artikel/Energy/electricity-grids-of-the-future-01.html
Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy
English translation
[...]
The Federal Government has put the policies in place for
On 2021-02-17, at 19:36, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> undergrounding HV transmission lines
That’s not how it works.
In Germany, the majority of rural area HV transmission is above ground, for
reasons that have been mentioned here. If we have significant power outages
(once-in-a-decade events),
: nanog
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
- On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:21 AM, nanog
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote:
Hi,
Using the sample bill on the GA power website you linked, I see a bottom line
price of $76.17 for 606 kWh delivered to the cu
- On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:21 AM, nanog wrote:
Hi,
> Using the sample bill on the GA power website you linked, I see a bottom line
> price of $76.17 for 606 kWh delivered to the customer. That is effectively
> 12.57 cents per kWh.
> Utilities (both investor owned and coops) have a
> On Feb 17, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>> Statistics suck, until you attempt to produce your own.
>
> I don’t even know what word you replace “suck” with, when you’re doing it
> yourself. What’s suck cubed?
>
>
@nanog.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Rod Beck
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:43 PM
> *To:* Sean Donelan
> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
>
>
>
> Using residential pricing for a data center is a bit odd, isn't? Re
> On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> Statistics suck, until you attempt to produce your own.
I don’t even know what word you replace “suck” with, when you’re doing it
yourself. What’s suck cubed?
-Bill
signature.asc
Description: Message
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Sabri Berisha wrote:
This (admittedly anecdotal) evidence clearly proves that the Dept of
Energy's table is cherry-picked bollocks. My rate is 163% of their
"average".
As always, you are free to collect data and produce your own table
covering electric prices for the
On 2/17/21 20:04, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote:
Other than financials limiting capacity, modern residential solar
systems do not care a wink about what sort of load their DC is
driving. The inverters also are rated for continuous duty.
Solar can drive any load. But to support heavy loads
As I mentioned I used residential pricing because its easier to find.
Getting industrial pricing is more difficult because its often viewed as
proprietary secret information with particular customers. Its more
difficult to get industrial pricing across all countries (and states in
the USA).
=net2atlanta@nanog.org] On Behalf
Of Rod Beck
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:43 PM
To: Sean Donelan
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
Using residential pricing for a data center is a bit odd, isn't? Remember,
European businesses can
On 2/17/21 9:40 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote:
It might not be an easy fix in the moment, but in the long run, buy a
generator and install a propane tank.
When power prices spike to insane levels like this, just flip your
transfer switch over and run off propane.
When utility power
is taxes and
surcharges.
From: Sean Donelan
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 4:15 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
The price of electricity is a major component of the decision where data
It might not be an easy fix in the moment, but in the long run, buy a
generator and install a propane tank.
When power prices spike to insane levels like this, just flip your transfer
switch over and run off propane.
When utility power becomes cheaper, switch back to the grid.
Maybe some sort of
On 2/17/21 8:07 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Not sure where you’re finding those numbers but I believe they are not
accurate.
U.S. Energy Information Administration (part of the Department of Energy)
On 2/16/21 19:27, Brandon Svec wrote:
Mismanagement and poor planning are primarily to blame. One can't
just blame the weather. We know weather will be bad and have extreme
variations.
You mean some like UK airports :-)?
Mark.
On 2/16/21 18:50, John Von Essen wrote:
I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer
and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state
gets a deep freeze, everybody is running those heat pumps non-stop,
and the generation capacity simply wasn’t
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Not sure where you’re finding those numbers but I believe they are not accurate.
U.S. Energy Information Administration (part of the Department of Energy)
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a
On 2/16/21 17:45, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
The professor has it right. Before the state privatized the grid and made
ERCOT, we never had these problems. Every few years, these private companies
complain they need a rate hike because they need a grant to ‘beef up’ the
infrastructure
On 2/16/21 16:28, Michael Thomas wrote:
We use propane. It's less dense energy-wise than gasoline, but it's
really easy to switch over.
Same here, for our winter. Cheaper than power, and is fast-acting.
Mark.
On 2/16/21 14:23, Bret Clark wrote:
Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold. The
power grids are being overload due to people using their electric heat
or electric portable heaters.
Any shared resource will have its limits exposed when patterns spiral,
unusually.
On 2/16/21 14:22, John Sage wrote:
You don't understand Texas politics relative to the United States at
large.
I certainly do not :-).
Which is fine, but this is a state that had deliberately prevented
interconnects (see: ERCOT, above) into any extended national grid,
principally
On 2/16/21 14:14, Rod Beck wrote:
I agree. Germany spent well over 200 billion Euros on wind and solar
subsidies and over 85% of the country's energy consumption is still
non-renewable. Wind power is randomly generated. I really don't to
depend it for either personal or business needs.
On 2/16/21 14:09, Rod Beck wrote:
The problems with renewables is that you can't switch on or off and
there is no good storage solution.
While solar + batteries would be good backup options, they would do
little to support electric-driven heating, as solar irradiation during
winter is too
On 2/17/21 7:15 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
The price of electricity is a major component of the decision where
data centers operators choose to build large data centers.
Total electric price to end consumer (residential). Although
industrial electric prices are usually lower, its easier to
> On Feb 17, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> USA (Residential):
> Lowest Idaho: USD 9.67 cents/kWh (EU 8.3 cents/kWh)
> Highest Hawaii: USD 28.84 cents/kWh (EU 24.07 cents/kWh)
Not sure where you’re finding those numbers but I believe they are not accurate.
The price of electricity is a major component of the decision where data
centers operators choose to build large data centers.
Total electric price to end consumer (residential). Although industrial
electric prices are usually lower, its easier to compare residential
prices across
See also ISI's [1] ANT Evaluation of Internet Outages map:
https://outage.ant.isi.edu/?zoom=6=-98.100178=36.512017=dark=1613564040=8=ostreaming=1=0_scale=3
[1] https://ant.isi.edu/outage/
On Mon 2021-02-15 18:04:07-0800 Eric wrote:
> See also, regional maps here. Thanks to CAIDA and the IODA
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2021/02/16/electricity-retailer-griddys-unusual-plea-to-texas-customers-leave-now-before-you-get-a-big-bill/
The power market in Texas has utterly failed.
Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
b...@6by7.net
"The only
(or larger)
then your HV lines would have to span multiple states (several countries in
Europe), it'd be an insane effort to build and maintain these for 50+ years.
- Original message -
From: Rod Beck
To: Peter Beckman
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Re: Texas internet co
> I have lived in France and now Hungary. I have never seen power lines
> above ground, but I have heard there are some in rural France.
You'll find them even in Budapest:
Humm sorry, there are a lot of power lines which are not buried in France and
in Europe.
High, medium and low voltage power lines, even if there is a willingness to
slowly bury them over the time
Ge
> Le 17 févr. 2021 à 10:17, Rod Beck a écrit :
>
> I have lived in France and now Hungary. I
big cars.
From: Peter Beckman
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:27 AM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Sean Donelan ; Mikael Abrahamsson ;
nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Rod Beck wrote:
> Are the power lines buried like in E
the beginning as any climate scientist will tell you.
-R.
From: Peter Beckman
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:27 AM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Sean Donelan ; Mikael Abrahamsson ;
nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Tue, 16
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 00:27 -0500, Peter Beckman wrote:
> Buried lines makes sense where it makes sense.
Aesthetically, burying lines always makes sense. Sadly not enough
communities (and definitely too few governments) place any value on
aesthetics at all.
I've never heard anyone, ever,
: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM
To: Sean Donelan
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote:
Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state.
The extreme cold weather extends northwards
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Robert Jacobs wrote:
How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even
let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more
power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind
which of course in an ice storm like we
100%. Our system has been on stage 2 aux heat (electric) ever since we
dropped below 24 or so. Usually we might see it for a few hours on the
coldest nights. I'd say most people are probably pulling full summer load
+20%.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 5:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 2/16/21 09:49,
Can you let us know how you access the information you are seeing for
Texas? I went to the website and can't find anything that allows me to
actually view some data other than a twitter feed.
On 2/15/2021 5:53 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
Not as bad as Myanmar (14%), Internet connectivity in Texas
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 17:12 Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 2/16/21 09:49, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >
> > On 2/16/21 8:50 AM, John Von Essen wrote:
> >> I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer
> >> and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state
> >>
True, Sean, but Texas has its own ISO. The counterpart wouldn’t be “Delaware
has rolling blackouts”, but “The Eastern ISO has following blackouts”.
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Cory Sell via NANOG wrote:
>> adoption.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:02:38AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
> On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote:
>
> > Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with
> > the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming under
> > federal regulation?
> >
> > I
On 2/16/21 3:19 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:
- On Feb 16, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote:
We use propane. It's less dense energy-wise than gasoline, but it's
really easy to switch over.
Why not use both? Plenty of generators that are dual fuel out there.
Last year I
- On Feb 16, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote:
> We use propane. It's less dense energy-wise than gasoline, but it's
> really easy to switch over.
Why not use both? Plenty of generators that are dual fuel out there.
Last year I converted my Duramax to dual fuel by
On 2/16/21 09:49, Michael Thomas wrote:
On 2/16/21 8:50 AM, John Von Essen wrote:
I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer
and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state
gets a deep freeze, everybody is running those heat pumps non-stop,
and
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:18 PM Robert Jacobs
wrote:
> How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let
> the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power
> in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of
> course in an
On 16. Feb 2021, at 16:40, Yang Yu wrote:
>
> You can find ERCOT Operations
> Messageshttp://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages
No, I can’t.
(OK, with a handy VPN, I do get access. )
Grüße, Carsten
Access Denied
Error 16
www.ercot.com
2021-02-16 22:12:17 UTC
If you believe
> On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
>
> You'd think that mid-summer Texas chews a lot more peak capacity than the
> middle of winter. Plus I would think a lot of Texas uses natural gas for heat
> rather than electricity further mitigating its effect on the grid.
>
> Mike
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:17:15AM +, Robert Jacobs wrote:
> How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even
> let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more
> power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind
> which of
- On Feb 16, 2021, at 5:01 AM, Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Rod Beck wrote:
>> Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live?
They are not buried everywhere. They are buried in most western EU
countries perhaps. But I invite you to go to Ferizaj,
hibited. If you have received this electronic
> message in error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately.
> -Original Message-----
> From: NANOG On Behalf
> Of Mark Tinka
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:06 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Texas internet c
ediately.
-Original Message-
From: NANOG mailto:nanog-bounces+rjacobs=pslightwave@nanog.org>> On
Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity d
On 2/16/21 8:50 AM, John Von Essen wrote:
I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer
and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state
gets a deep freeze, everybody is running those heat pumps non-stop,
and the generation capacity simply wasn’t
ity named above. If you are not the intended
> recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of
> this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic
> message in error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately.
> -Original Me
dual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended
>> recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of
>> this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message
>> in error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediate
isp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Robert DeVita"
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" , "Rod Beck" <
> rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>
&
ssage -
From: "Jared Mauch"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "Rod Beck" , nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 8:38:11 AM
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> It's
; , "Rod Beck"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:30:50 AM
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
What’s going on in Texas has nothing to do with power distribution. It has to
do with ability to generate power.
Robert DeVita
Fo
The professor has it right. Before the state privatized the grid and made
ERCOT, we never had these problems. Every few years, these private companies
complain they need a rate hike because they need a grant to ‘beef up’ the
infrastructure and it’s granted although we seem to keep having this
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:11 AM Rod Beck
wrote:
> Anyone wants to provide some details on where the system has faltered? It
> is transmission? Or generation? Or just everything in general?
>
You can find ERCOT Operations Messageshttp://
www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages
as one telco network.
Regards,
Roderick.
From: Jared Mauch
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 3:38 PM
To: Mike Hammett
Cc: Rod Beck ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Mike Hamm
> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the
> underground plant.
>
> The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of
> way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well.
>
Labor
; Mark Tinka ;
nanog@nanog.org ; Cory Sell
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
The problems with renewables is that you can't switch on or off and there is no
good storage solution.
However, the issue in Texas is probably exposed power cables. In Europe
On 2/16/21 3:05 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Almost exactly 4 years ago we were out up here in Michigan for over
120 hours after a wind storm took out power to 1 million homes. Large
scale restoration takes time. When the load and supply are imbalanced
it can make things worse as well.
I'm
y 16, 2021 7:25:12 AM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the
underground plant.
The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of
Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Rod Beck"
To: "Sean Donelan" , "Mikael Abrahamsson"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 6:05:41 AM
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
A
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, Rod Beck wrote:
Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live?
Rolling blackouts in Texas (or elsewhere) are not caused by storm damage.
Rolling blackouts are administrative actions (turn off power, turn on
power) taken by the system operator. They can "turn
On 2/16/21 4:22 AM, John Sage wrote:
On 2/15/21 10:02 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote:
Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with
the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming
under federal regulation?
Yes.
1 - 100 of 119 matches
Mail list logo
