Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-27 Thread Grant Moritz
I work on the Helpdesk for the ISP I have at home and since *most* of them are fairly compotent I'd just call up or just head into work and do it myself. Then again I can't remember the last time I had to call them for a problem that was actually on their network. On the flip side we get the

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-27 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:  On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: My solution?  Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get on the web. Or connect to the neighbors unprotected wifi... :) --Ariel I can't believe that snuck past

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-25 Thread Voll, Toivo
of the less quantifiable aspects of service when picking an ISP. It's also sad that good, competent service is so rare it really stands out. -Toivo -Original Message- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 18:34 To: NANOG Subject: Re: What do you do when your

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread Jason LeBlanc
This is why I love my mom and pop DSL provider, I can call and get someone who speaks packets and listens and understands. I may not have the speed some cable providers offer (if you actually get it..) but it is reliable and I can get resolution quickly. Short of that, tether the laptop to

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Lothberg
I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread Paul Graydon
On 8/19/2011 7:56 AM, Jason LeBlanc wrote: This is why I love my mom and pop DSL provider, I can call and get someone who speaks packets and listens and understands. I may not have the speed some cable providers offer (if you actually get it..) but it is reliable and I can get resolution

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread David Conrad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Peter Lothberg wrote: Why would you put yourself in such a situation? - Arrange for two or more diverse fiber entrances to your house - Put atleast one Ds3 microwave link for emergency access - Have diffrent routers terminate each link - Redundant interconnects

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread Andrew Kirch
Apologies for answering in-thread the question in the subject (jumping in if you will), but in the event of network failure, I brew beer, and drink beer previously brewed. Brewing beer is fun, tasty, and requires no internet access. The alcohol eventually helps me forget my lack of internet

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-19 Thread Owen DeLong
in their home rack, gave me lots of good ideas for new toys) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Greg Smythe -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What do you do when your Home ISP

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread PC
$big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get on the web. Otherwise I sleep it off or do something else. I only call if it's hours/days in duration, or likely isolated to my

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center have you do the same things every time and are not very

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Ariel Biener
On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: $big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get on the web. Or connect to the neighbors unprotected wifi... :) --Ariel -- -- Ariel

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network,

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21:57AM -0700, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:21:57 PDT, Mark Keymer said: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. If I was busy with something mission-critical for work, the data center is 15 minutes from where I live. If I was

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jay Nakamura
Is it just me that has a hard time reading a paragraph when there and their are misused? Anyway, one time, I had a problem with a DSL line with ATT, which had a trouble ticket from a storm taking down the connection and they had to replace a card somewhere. They said it was fixed but it wasn't

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Eric Wieling
Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down? Anyway, one time, I had a problem with a DSL line with ATT, which

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Harry Hoffman
it's just you... most of us can use contaxt to know what the person actually meant ;-) On 08/18/2011 02:05 PM, Jay Nakamura wrote: Is it just me that has a hard time reading a paragraph when there and their are misused?

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 02:09:03PM -0400, Eric Wieling wrote: Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ Damn, that's _fine_! -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jeff Johnstone
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. snip I know we have a wide range of people here some of which work for my Home ISP. and would

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:17:07AM -0700, Jeff Johnstone wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. snip I know we have a wide

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Paul
On 08/18/2011 07:21 AM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network,

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Landon Stewart
On 18 August 2011 10:21, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center have you do the same things every time and are not very

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread John Adams
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I have a couple of solutions to this problem. 1) I've got a backup Verizon 4G LTE modem giving

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Alex Brooks
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. Ooh, heck. I'm going through this at the moment. I noticed a website that doesn't load some of

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
I multi home instead… It works great! Owen On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Ariel Biener wrote: On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: $big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread -Hammer-
I turn off Halo and go to bed. Holy cow there's a woman there! -Hammer- I was a normal American nerd -Jack Herer On 08/18/2011 12:21 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Fred Baker
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I'm on Cox Business Services, a Cable Modem network. The bad news: I pay more for less bandwidth. The good news: I

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Tim
I remember when I used to use our cable company for internet. It sucked. I had business service from them and everytime any issue would occur(even if is a routing issue like you mentioned) they want to reboot the modem, computer, etc and end the call with would you like us to dispatch someone to

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 18:09, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote: Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ Obligatory dilbert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2Ks3lQew8 (the first part regarding tech support)

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Greg Smythe
@nanog.org Subject: Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down? Is it just me that has a hard time reading a paragraph when there and their are misused? Anyway, one time, I had a problem with a DSL line with ATT, which had a trouble ticket from a storm taking down the connection and they had

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Franck Martin
Report the problem on Twitter or Facebook. It is a common issue that support staff go via a scripted process. You can play, I'm the IT manager of a fortune 500 company, to see if they still consider you as a luddite, but really your only option is to either try to escalate the call (talk to

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Justin Scott
I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. If my primary connection is down, I switch to my backup. At one office we have both Comcast cable and Verizon FiOS so if one is out, we just switch to the other. It's

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org It can be frustrating talking to their frontline people, but unless you have contacts there in network engineering, what else are you going to do? I just want to put in a tip o' the hat here to the BHN/RoadRunner *business* support

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Nick Olsen
- Original Message - From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org It can be frustrating talking to their frontline people, but unless you have contacts there in network engineering, what else are you going to do? I just want to put in a tip o' the hat here to the BHN/RoadRunner

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Phil Dyer
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. read? phil