Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Snowmobile2004
2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls >>>>>> are >>>>>> >failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls are >>>>>>>>failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is par for the course. These people c

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread L F
people who bought >>>>> the >>>>> Rogers Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow that is >>>>> preventing them from leaving their house. >>>>> >>>>> Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are Rogers de

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread L F
s that are Rogers dependent >>>> will not work. >>>> >>>> Some people are so retarded it is astonishing! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or property, you >>>> will be put down i

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Andrey Kostin
It's hard to believe that a same time maintenance affecting so many devices in the core network could be approved. Core networks are build with redundancy, so that failures can't completely destroy the whole network. If it would be just "particular devices" they could be isolated much faster.

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Niels Bakker
* vic...@jvknet.com (Victor Kuarsingh) [Mon 11 Jul 2022, 17:17 CEST]: This is the most they can and will say. For liabilities reasons, specifics are likely not in the cards. I doubt it. Given that emergency services were impacted you can count on a proper assessment being made available to a

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jul 11, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > > This is the most they can and will say. For liabilities reasons, specifics > are likely not in the cards. As most services ride over common service > networks, its quite possible that a network substrate failure can have a >

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Keith Stokes
m: NANOG >mailto:dessus@nanog.org>> On >Behalf Of >Eric Kuhnke >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 >To: jim deleskie mailto:deles...@gmail.com>> >Cc: NANOG list mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada > > >I have seen anecdotal report

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Victor Kuarsingh
work. That would mean that people who bought >>>>> the >>>>> Rogers Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow that is >>>>> preventing them from leaving their house. >>>>> >>>>> Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Shane Ronan
at if you attack my person or property, you >>>> will be put down in accordance with the provisions of section 34 & 35 of >>>> the Criminal Code respectively. If you are brandishing (or in possession) >>>> of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person in

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Alain Hebert
f >Eric Kuhnke >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 >To: jim deleskie >Cc: NANOG list >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada > > >I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-11 Thread Jon Sands
ropriately. >-Original Message- >From: NANOG On Behalf Of >Eric Kuhnke >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 >To: jim deleskie >Cc: NANOG list >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada >

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-10 Thread L F
person or property, you >>> will be put down in accordance with the provisions of section 34 & 35 of >>> the Criminal Code respectively. If you are brandishing (or in possession) >>> of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person in accordance >>&

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Victor Kuarsingh
ovisions of section 34 & 35 of >>> the Criminal Code respectively. If you are brandishing (or in possession) >>> of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person in accordance >>> with the law. This means that your misadventures may end in your death. >>

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread L F
t your misadventures may end in your death. >> Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately. >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: NANOG On Behalf Of >> >Eric Kuhnke >> >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 >> >T

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ric Kuhnke > >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 > >To: jim deleskie > >Cc: NANOG list > >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada > > > > > >I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is in a half broken > >state that phones remain registered to

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
Normally I'd take offense, but in my experience of endless technician calls, hundreds of hours on the phone with support. I can assure Rogers staff are the utmost incompetent out of any I've seen. Only talked to one support tech with them that even knew what DOCSIS was. How can teaching

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/9/22 09:54, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote: I see the point you’re trying to make but using the word retarded in this context is not only dumb in itself but offense. Please be more respectful on this list. Shall we take another spin on the euphemism treadmill? -- Jay Hennigan -

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
applied to your person in accordance with > the law. This means that your misadventures may end in your death. Consider > yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately. > >> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG On Behalf Of >> Eric Kuhnke >>

RE: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-09 Thread Keith Medcalf
th the law. This means that your misadventures may end in your death. Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately. >-Original Message- >From: NANOG On Behalf Of >Eric Kuhnke >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34 >To: jim deleskie >Cc: NANOG list

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Clayton Zekelman
The E911 network in Ontario and Quebec is run by Bell Canada. The PSAPs may have non-emergency lines that are provided by other carriers. At 03:56 PM 08/07/2022, Andrew Paolucci via NANOG wrote: I believe the call centers run by law enforcement and municipalities in the GTA are mostly homed

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
I believe the call centers run by law enforcement and municipalities in the GTA are mostly homed on single providers, I know some Bell and Telus users in certain areas are still able to reach emergency services. Regards, Andrew Paolucci Original Message On Jul. 8, 2022, 3:39

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Clayton Zekelman
Why not? If the SS7 is encapsulated in IP... (think SIGTRAN). At 03:30 PM 08/07/2022, jim deleskie wrote: i cant see BGP taking out SS7. -jim -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Pete Baldwin - TCC
Seems like their external BGP peers are dead. If their internal network is the same, and they carry M2PA etc, or use BGP/MPLS to carry SS7 traffic, or their softswitches/STPs rely on BGP/MPLS in some way then SS7 might exist, but not be functional. -- Pete Baldwin On 2022-07-08 15:30, jim

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be that 911 calls are failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone. I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is in a half broken state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call will attempt and then fail. This is unlike what would

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread jim deleskie
i cant see BGP taking out SS7. -jim On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004 wrote: > According to Cloudflare Radar > , Rogers > BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than normal > (343,601 vs 64

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Whatever they did, it has also taken out SS7/PSTN 911 services for many millions of people. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rogers-outage-cell-mobile-wifi-1.6514373 On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 11:44, Snowmobile2004 wrote: > According to Cloudflare Radar >

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Snowmobile2004
According to Cloudflare Radar , Rogers BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777% higher than normal (343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage. I would not be surprised if this happened to be the culprit.

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Andrew Paolucci via NANOG
In the early hours of the morning around 2-3am my modem got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP release that wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the connection was fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage. Maybe a failed night time update was attempted

Re: Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert DeVita wrote: Does anyone have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I have customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on the Outages mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services, mobile, voice, Internet. No cause or ETR posted

Rogers Outage Canada

2022-07-08 Thread Robert DeVita
Does anyone have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada. I have customers with multiple sites down. Thanks Rob [cid:image001.jpg@01D892AF.488E0A30] Robert DeVita​​ CEO and Founder t: (469) 581-2160 | m: (469) 441-8864 e: radev...@mejeticks.com | w: