RE: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Paul Stewart
contacts of whom many of them didn't know the mask had changed in the first place. Paul -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 10:36 PM To: Mike Hammett Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks On Apr 4

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Will Hargrave
On 5 Apr 2015, at 04:29, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: I worked for a provider until recently that happened to get an IP assignment at an IXP that was transitioning from /25 to /24. It was painful chasing down peers to get them to change their netmask just so we could connect.

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-05 Thread Brandon Butterworth
When we renumbered LONAP from /24 to /22, we had to change netblocks too The LONAP change was the snoothest, speediest, no drama IXP addressing change I've seen. All IXP should copy their process. brandon

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Charles Gucker
Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Brendan Halley bren...@halley.net.au To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks IPv4 and IPv6 subnets

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
...@halley.net.au To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks IPv4 and IPv6 subnets are different. While a single IPv4 is taken to be a single device, an IPv6 /64 is designed to be treated as an end user subnet

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Apr/15 02:35, Mike Hammett wrote: Okay, so I decided to look at what current IXes are doing. It looks like AMS-IX, Equinix and Coresite as well as some of the smaller IXes are all using /64s for their IX fabrics. Seems to be a slam dunk then as how to handle the IPv6. We've got a

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Brendan Halley
. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 5:49:37 PM Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks On Sat

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Laszlo Hanyecz
Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2015 6:10:34 PM Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks IPv4 and IPv6 subnets are different. While a single IPv4 is taken to be a single device, an IPv6 /64 is designed to be treated as an end user subnet. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3177 section

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Apr 4, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Charles Gucker cguc...@onesc.net wrote: I've been involved in IX renumbering efforts because exchange(s) decided to use /25's instead of /24's.It's painful because troubleshooting can be a little difficult as differing subnetmasks are in play. If you have

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:06:02 -0500, Mike Hammett said: I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even though we nqever expected anywhere near that many on a given fabric. Then okay, how do we

Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even though we never expected anywhere near that many on a given fabric. Then okay, how do we do v6? We got a /48, so the thought was a /64 for each. That

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: Small IX IP Blocks On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 16:06:02 -0500, Mike Hammett said: I am starting up a small IX. The thought process was a /24 for every IX location (there will be multiple of them geographically disparate), even though we nqever expected anywhere near that many on a given

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

2015-04-04 Thread Karl Auer
On Sat, 2015-04-04 at 18:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: That makes sense. I do recall now reading about having that 8 bit separation between tiers of networks. However, in an IX everyone is supposed to be able to talk to everyone else. Traditionally (AFAIK), it's all been on the same subnet. At