The Cidr Report

2015-10-09 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 9 21:14:52 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-10-02 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 2 21:14:51 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-09-25 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 25 21:15:27 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-09-18 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 18 21:14:54 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-09-11 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 11 21:14:56 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-09-04 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 4 21:14:47 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-08-28 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 28 21:14:41 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-08-21 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 21 21:14:46 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-08-14 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 14 21:14:47 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-08-07 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 7 21:14:53 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-07-31 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 31 21:14:46 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-07-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 24 21:16:32 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-07-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 17 21:14:51 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-07-10 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 10 21:14:43 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-07-03 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 3 21:18:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-06-26 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 26 21:17:55 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-06-19 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 19 21:14:38 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-06-12 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 12 21:14:37 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-06-05 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 5 21:14:36 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-05-29 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 29 21:14:38 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-05-22 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 22 21:14:36 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-05-15 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 15 21:14:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-05-08 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 8 21:14:42 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-05-01 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri May 1 21:14:34 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-04-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 24 21:14:34 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-04-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 17 21:14:32 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-04-10 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 10 21:14:35 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-03-27 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Mar 27 21:14:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-03-20 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Mar 20 21:14:21 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-03-13 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Mar 13 21:14:30 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-03-06 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Mar 6 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-02-27 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 27 21:14:26 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-02-20 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 20 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-02-13 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 13 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-02-06 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 6 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-01-30 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 30 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-01-23 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 23 21:14:26 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-01-16 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 16 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-01-09 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 9 21:14:22 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2015-01-02 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 2 21:14:20 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-12-26 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 26 21:14:48 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-12-19 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 19 21:14:21 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-12-12 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 12 21:14:23 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-12-05 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 5 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-11-28 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 28 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-11-21 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 21 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-11-14 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 14 21:14:18 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-11-07 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 7 21:14:21 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-10-31 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 31 21:14:13 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

Re: cidr-report

2014-10-29 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Has anyone noticed any issues resulting from the increase? No http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#General_Status But quite interestingly seems like something went wrong with AS13184 around 12:00 UTC. https://stat.ripe.net/AS13184#tabId=routing Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui

Re: cidr-report

2014-10-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddi...@gmail.com wrote: AS13184 http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS13184view=2.0 shows they deaggregated all of their aggregates and leaked that space to the world (mostly as /23 or /24 subnets of their larger prefixes)

The Cidr Report

2014-10-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 24 21:14:12 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-10-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 17 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-10-10 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 10 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-10-03 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 3 21:14:05 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-09-26 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 26 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-09-19 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 19 21:14:16 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-09-12 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 12 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-09-05 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 5 21:14:08 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-08-29 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 29 21:14:09 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

The Cidr Report

2014-08-22 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 22 21:14:52 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

RE: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-15 Thread Vitkovský Adam
It looks great though I would not want to troubleshoot the RIB to FIB programing errors unless there's a note somewhere saying what abbreviation to search for in FIB. The other think that comes to mind is that the more specifics could have different backup next-hops programed. adam From:

The Cidr Report

2014-08-15 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 15 21:14:03 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. Might be useful if you mentioned what you considered a smart way to trim the fib. But then you couldn't bitch and moan about people not understanding you, which is the real

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Dorian Kim
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 01:47:20AM -0400, Dorian Kim wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: Swisscom or some

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be misleading here. When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long after those equipment were replaced. but by then it had driven

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:27:46AM -0700 Quoting Merike Kaeo (mer...@doubleshotsecurity.com): B: they *did* know about the issue, but convincing management to spend the cash to buy hardware

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Owen DeLong
I believe at one point, SPRINT had in the RADB (and actively advertised) 0.0.0.0/2, 64.0.0.0/2, 128.0.0.0/2, and 192.0.0.0/2 under something called “Quarter Default Route, see Rational Default Project” or words to that effect. I could be wrong. It was a long time ago and I barely remember

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 14, 2014, at 02:36 , Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be misleading here. When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long after those equipment were replaced. This was done for commercial reasons, not to protect the Internet. You know it, I know it, and I'm pretty sure the

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Chris Woodfield rek...@semihuman.com wrote: Hence the “when programming the TCAM” part of my original statement :) Hi Chris, My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the

RE: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Romeo Czumbil
: Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? if the former, ticket

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. ahhh, you dug out the

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? Neither. ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. plonk randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? Neither. I'm reporting the state of the science. ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. That phrase ad hominem, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread vrist...@ramapo.edu
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE sm - Reply message - From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com Cc: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Thu

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Aris Lambrianidis
I think you mean what is best described here: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt --Aris Suresh Ramasubramanian mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com Thursday, August 14, 2014 04:59 Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:40:55PM +0530 Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com): 512K routes, here we come. Lots of TCAM based routers suddenly become really expensive doorstops. We

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Warren Kumari
... and then you'll come back in a few years and buy another one.. mwahahahah. Yup, folk purchasing these *should* have known (not like there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR report... W Hank, you gotta learn to wear respiratory apparatus when

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Paul Ferguson
been (and was) easily predicted... Here, buy my widget... and then you'll come back in a few years and buy another one.. mwahahahah. Yup, folk purchasing these *should* have known (not like there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Paul Ferguson
there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR report... I am not an operator, but I used to be a *really* active routing engineer once upon a time in the stone age :-) and what really bothers me is the serious lack of general awareness

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing projections by Vince Fuller and Tony Li from several years ago which illustrated this, but cannot find

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/13/2014 11:09 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing projections

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Merike Kaeo
there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR report... W Hank, you gotta learn to wear respiratory apparatus when working near open containers of magic router pixie dust - that stuff can screw you up if you inhale

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Chris Woodfield
Same reason no vendor has bothered to prune redundant RIB entries (i.e. more-specific pointing to the same NH as a covering route) when programming the TCAM... -C On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Geoff Huston
On 14 Aug 2014, at 4:14 am, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@mykolab.com wrote: On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing projections by Vince

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 13, 2014, at 16:42 , Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. We disagree. Just because you don't like all more specifics doesn't mean they are useless. Not everything is about minimizing FIB size. (And RIB size hasn't been relevant for

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Chris Woodfield rek...@semihuman.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)?

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Chris Woodfield
Pruning FIB entries, on the other hand, can be done quite safely as long as you're willing to accept the conversion of null route to don't care. Some experiments were done on this in the IETF a couple years back. Draft-zhang-fibaggregation maybe? Savings of 30% in typical backbone nodes

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:53:45PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. Might be useful if you mentioned what you considered a smart way to trim the fib. But then you couldn't

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more specific routes than say a /22 from provider x, so if you wanted to take a /24 and announce it you were SOL sending packets to them from that /24 over provider y. Still, for elderly and capacity limited

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brett Frankenberger rbf+na...@panix.com said: -- This isn't that hard to implement. Once you have a FIB and primitives for manipulating it, it's not especially difficult to extend them to also maintain a minimal-size-FIB. I would say it is hard to implement, or at least

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more specific routes than say a /22 from provider x, so if you

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread manning bill
Sprint used to proxy aggregate… I remember 128.0.0.0/3 the real question, imho, is if folks are going to look into their crystal balls and roadmap where the default offered is a /32 (either v4 or v6) and plan accordingly, or just slap another bandaid on the oozing wound... /bill PO Box

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Steve Noble
Sprint also had 192/2 in the RADB :) manning bill wrote: Sprint used to proxy aggregate… I remember 128.0.0.0/3 the real question, imho, is if folks are going to look into their crystal balls and roadmap where the default offered is a /32 (either v4 or v6) and plan accordingly, or just

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-13 Thread Dorian Kim
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not

So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
512K routes, here we come. Lots of TCAM based routers suddenly become really expensive doorstops. Maybe time to revisit this old 2007 nanog thread? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_view_flat;post=99870;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;list=nanog FYI nanog -

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Many don't need to buy anything new. Just follow the instructions here: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switche$ We did this in the 1st week of June. Problem solved. -Hank 512K routes, here we come.

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