, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
plans/networks/customer ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John
AM, Eric Van Tol e...@atlantech.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
I'm curious what providers have
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From: Jack Carrozzo [mailto:j...@crepinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:01 PM
To: Eric Van Tol
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
We pick up v6 from HE currently (like the rest of the world). L3 offered us
dual stack also, but they wanted money to set
-Original Message-
From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
plans/networks/customer ports
Hello,
Just wanted to say thanks to everybody who replied and/or offered help.
I've got a few private peering offers, so I guess I'm ok now.
Thanks a lot,
Michael
On Friday 14 May 2010 11:25:10 pm Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
Guys,
I've started this thread looking for advice on available
On 2010/05/14 03:39 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
3) don't tunnel beyond your borders, really just don't
We have managed to achieve that fairly well. We have colocated a single
router in a provider in London with native IPv6 where we have our
primary break out. We then tunnel over IPv4
On 2010-05-15 05:32, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Michael Ulitskiymulits...@acedsl.com wrote:
So my question still stands: is anyone aware of a reasonable tunneled ipv6
transit service (I mean aside from HE tunnel broker)? The load will be really
light. I don't
On 15 May 2010, at 04:30, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
See, done for 300$/month...
$300/month + the cost of building fossils into your network on day 1.
This cost is a whole pile more difficult to quantify than basic PoP
service capex/opex, but it's recurrent and non
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From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, 13 May, 2010 6:39:28 PM
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits
:
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
To: Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, 13 May, 2010 6:39:28 PM
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
presenting at the upcoming NANOG about their experiences.
What parts of the big I Internet are not enabled or ready?
- Jared
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:
I said somewhere in here... wierd quoting happened.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com
wrote:
Hello,
We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
presenting at the upcoming NANOG about their experiences.
What parts of the big I
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
plans/networks/customer ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
presenting
--Original Message--
From: Jared Mauch
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:49 PM
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now
3) don't tunnel beyond your borders, really just don't
tunnels are bad, always.
you are understaing your case.
randy
--Original Message--
From: Jared Mauch
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:49 PM
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now
On May 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
(Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do
inline quoting)
Native IPv6 is a crapshoot. About the only people in the US that
I've seen that are no-bullshit IPv6
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
Tunnels promote poor paths
promote? Tunnel topology does not (necessarily) match the underlying
topology, especially if you choose (or are forced to accept) a distant
broker. But promote?
, they bring along LOTS of issues wrt PMTUD,
On 5/14/2010 12:44, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
plans/networks/customer ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their
On May 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:
I said somewhere in here... wierd quoting happened.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com
wrote:
Hello,
We're in the early
On May 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
(Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do inline
quoting)
Native IPv6 is a crapshoot. About the only people in the US that I've seen
that are no-bullshit IPv6
er... if I may - this whining about the evils of tunnels
rings a bit hollow, esp for those who think that a VPN is
the right thing to do.
--bill
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:44:53AM +1000, Karl Auer wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
Tunnels promote poor
On 5/14/10 2:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Being that there's issues that leave us unable to get native
connectivity, we have a BGP tunnel thanks to HE (with a 20ms
latency from Seattle to Freemont).
You should be able to get native IPv6 in Seattle from a variety of
providers. If you're not
Guys,
I've started this thread looking for advice on available options.
There's no doubt in my mind that native connectivity is better than tunnels,
but unfortunately tunnel is the only way to get me started, 'cause my upstream
does not support ipv6 (hopefully just yet) and I have no budget for
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote:
rant
Just an observation, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one who feels
that those with rather high budgets tend to forget that not everyone has the
luxury of a virtual blank check.
/rant
awesome, take an old
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com wrote:
So my question still stands: is anyone aware of a reasonable tunneled ipv6
transit service (I mean aside from HE tunnel broker)? The load will be really
light. I don't expect we'll break a few Mbit/s in the nearest
Hello,
We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
learning/labbing/experimenting/etc.
We've got to the point when we're also planning to request initial ipv6
allocation from ARIN.
So I wonder what ipv6 transit options I have if my upstreams do not support
native ipv6 connectivity?
Occaid will generally transit you via two tunnels to their endpoints. I used
them for a year with zero issues in addition to an HE tunnel.
-Jack Carrozzo
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.comwrote:
Hello,
We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com wrote:
Hello,
We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
learning/labbing/experimenting/etc.
We've got to the point when we're also planning to request initial ipv6
allocation from ARIN.
So I wonder what
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