Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-29 Thread Owen DeLong
> Let it be known that I hate NAT with the burning passion of a million > suns. But I'm the junior in my workplace, and this is the advice of > the head honchos. I can easily see both sides of this. I would say > with a few implementations, (maybe 25 or fewer) NATing isn't that > difficult. > > Gr

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-29 Thread Tyler Haske
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Tyler Haske wrote: > >> I'm sorry you don't like it, and I know IPv6 will wash all this away >> soon enough, but where I'm working we have no plans to implement IPv6, >> or require our vendors/partners to readdr

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-29 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Tyler Haske wrote: > I'm sorry you don't like it, and I know IPv6 will wash all this away > soon enough, but where I'm working we have no plans to implement IPv6, > or require our vendors/partners to readdress their networks to get a > VPN up. Just because there are

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-29 Thread Tyler Haske
> RFC1918 and VPN becomes non-scalable fast when you connect to lots of > different organizations - it doesn't take long before two > organizations you connect to both want to use 172.16.0.x/24 or > 10.0.0.x/24 or 192.168.0.0/24, or similar).  The same logic goes for > VPN clients - if one end is p

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Joel Maslak wrote: > Which is why enterprises generally shouldn't use RFC1918 IPs for > servers when clients are located on networks not controlled by the > same entity. Servers that serve multiple administration domains (such > as VPN users on AT&T - or on some r

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Joel Maslak wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM, PC wrote: > >> While you're at it, I've been also trying to complain about them using >> RFC1918 (172.16.) address space for the DNS servers they assign to their >> datacard subscribers.  Causes all sorts of pr

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Joel Maslak
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM, PC wrote: > While you're at it, I've been also trying to complain about them using > RFC1918 (172.16.) address space for the DNS servers they assign to their > datacard subscribers.  Causes all sorts of problems with people trying to > VPN in as the same IP range

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > of course, but you aren't supposed to be doing that on their network > anyway... so says the nice man from sprint 4 nanogs ago. That, and if you are tunneling in, it's good practice to forward over any DNS traffic as well (or all, depen

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:20 PM, PC wrote: > I'm sure they use carrier grade NAT, yes. I'm sure it's not 'carrier grade', but it does play one on tv... > However, nothing would prevent them from using a unique public IP assigned > to them for their DNS servers like others do. sure. they could d

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread PC
I'm sure they use carrier grade NAT, yes. However, nothing would prevent them from using a unique public IP assigned to them for their DNS servers like others do. Using RFC1918 space for a routed destination of an ISP service (DNS) is particularly problematic for many VPN client configurations wi

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:35 PM, PC wrote: > Why they don't use public IP space belonging to them for DNS servers, I do > not know. they have the same addresses used in multiple VRF's? so much simpler for them to manage...

Re: technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread PC
I wish you the best of luck. While you're at it, I've been also trying to complain about them using RFC1918 (172.16.) address space for the DNS servers they assign to their datacard subscribers. Causes all sorts of problems with people trying to VPN in as the same IP range is used by me. Why the

technical contact at ATT Wireless

2012-06-28 Thread Mike Devlin
Hi, Would anyone happen to know a contact at ATT wireless that would be able to help diagnose a DNS issue? we are seeing the DNS record for boston.com intermittantly resolve to the wrong IP address, but I am having trouble getting through to the correct people through normal support. Thanks Mik