Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:00:35 -0400, "Mike." said: > Oddly, prehaps, those punchcards on the stagecoaches probably will > outlast any magnetic media we have at our disposal today Here's a picture of an estimated 4.3G of data on punch cards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_card_storage.N

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/2/13 2:24 PM, Carlos Alcantar wrote: > You might want to consider putting up a speedtest server internal to your > network. I know there is a fee but well worth it I believe. You will > still need to take the results with a grain a salt but you will have the > best results as well. > The s

Re: Mikrotik visibility

2013-04-02 Thread Beavis
thanks all this is a good start. regards, -Beavis On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Yang Yu wrote: > I am using Plixer Scrutinizer Flow Analyzer with RouterOS. It does > have cool looking web panel. But some interfaces (instance 0, instance > 1 etc.) reported doesn't exactly match up with interfa

Re: Mikrotik visibility

2013-04-02 Thread Yang Yu
I am using Plixer Scrutinizer Flow Analyzer with RouterOS. It does have cool looking web panel. But some interfaces (instance 0, instance 1 etc.) reported doesn't exactly match up with interfaces in RouterOS. I haven't figured out what exactly those are. Yang

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Steven Bellovin" > DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi, > that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic Parkway, > circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the idea > about a stage coach

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Owen DeLong
Things get upgraded over time. Owen On Apr 2, 2013, at 15:44 , Steven Bellovin wrote: > DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi, > that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic Parkway, > circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expres

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Pressé
The speedtest.net site has a free mini edition (http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php) you can download and extract to some http available path (asp, php, jsp all supported). It's a flash applet, easy to wrap into your own page. Transfers one of ten large JPG files of random noise (largest is 31MB). II

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:41:17 -0400 Joe Abley wrote: > 26/1000 is more than zero but still quite small. Subsequent samples > with bigger sizes give 332/10, 3017/100. > > No science here, but 2% - 3% is what it looks like, which is big > enough to be a noticeable support cost for a medium-s

80 km BiDi XFPs

2013-04-02 Thread Frank Bulk
Is anyone aware of a reputable supplier of 80 km BiDi XFPs? My regular supplier of generics doesn't have an option for us, but I would really like to avoid leasing additional fibers. Frank

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Mike.
On 4/2/2013 at 6:44 PM Steven Bellovin wrote: |DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi, |that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic Parkway, |circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the idea |about a stage coach full of pun

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi, that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic Parkway, circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the idea about a stage coach full of punchcards, back in the 1880s. On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-04-02, at 18:18, John Kristoff wrote: > I would expect from stubs this will be close enough to zero to be > effectively zero. At least I would hope so. This (below) is one of four resolvers, together providing service for two recursive DNS servers used by residential DSL and cable int

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Mike.
On 4/2/2013 at 5:19 PM Jay Ashworth wrote: |- Original Message - |> From: "Owen DeLong" | |> "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges." | |Aww you remembered. | | http://baylink.pitas.com/20110516.html#747F = Staying more in the realm of what

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:40:03 +0100 Tony Finch wrote: > You should be able to get a reasonable sample of IPv6 resolvers from > the query logs of a popular authoritative server. When I tried this in the past for IPv4, I missed the majority of potential open resolvers / open forwarders on the net co

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:33:36 +0200 (CEST) Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > You're sending queries, not replies. That's why DPI is needed to > > do the blocking, rather than just by port. > > What queries are sourced from port 53 nowadays? I would expect from stubs this will be close enough to zero

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-02 Thread Scott Weeks
You might want to consider putting up a speedtest server internal to your network. I know there is a fee but well worth it I believe. You will I would consider NDT as well: www.internet2.edu/performance/ndt Last I checked, about 3 years ago,

Mikrotik visibility

2013-04-02 Thread Beavis
Hello All, I would like to ask if there are any folks out there that use any specific tool (OpenSource/Closed) that is used for mikrotik routers. I need packet visibility (ala netflow) or anything similar to that effect. any suggestions are greatly appreciated. cheers, -Beavis -- () ascii r

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-02 Thread Carlos Alcantar
You might want to consider putting up a speedtest server internal to your network. I know there is a fee but well worth it I believe. You will still need to take the results with a grain a salt but you will have the best results as well. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 132

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "TJ" > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges." > > XKCD is all over this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/31/ > :) I have always wondered what kind of station wagon Andy had in m

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Owen DeLong" > "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges." Aww you remembered. http://baylink.pitas.com/20110516.html#747F Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Des

RE: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-02 Thread Lorell Hathcock
Thanks for the many helpful suggestions I received offline. One thing that I was able to deduce was that one of the radios along the path had Ethernet auto negotiate turned on. I turned it off and the TCP speeds went way up. It seems that UDP was not affected by this setting while TCP was. Than

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread TJ
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges." > > Owen XKCD is all over this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/31/ :) /TJ

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Owen DeLong
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of DLT cartridges." Owen On Apr 2, 2013, at 11:31 , "Scott Berkman" wrote: > Hey careful, Pigeons have won this fight before: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8248056.stm > > -Original Message- > From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb..

RE: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Scott Berkman
Hey careful, Pigeons have won this fight before: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8248056.stm -Original Message- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:37 PM To: Jeff Kell Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: RFC 1149 Packets, shmackets. I'm just upset that

RE: New Product Launch from 2600hz

2013-04-02 Thread Brian Johnson
Owen, Was this actually posted anywhere. I'm pretty sure it's a joke, but I would like to send it to a vendor who keeps asking when we will need IPv6 support :) Thanks. Brian Johnson Converged Network Engineer CCNP, CCNP Security & MEF-CECP Certified > -Original Message- > From: Owen D

Re: BCP38 tester?

2013-04-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jimmy Hess" > On 4/1/13, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> It would just be way too much luck and convenience for that to > >> happen > >> by coincidence. > > > > Once in a while, you win. > > The trouble with winning by coincidence or winning as a side-effect... >

Re: RFC 1149

2013-04-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:37 PM, George Herbert wrote: > Packets, shmackets. I'm just upset that my BGP over Semaphore Towers > routing protocol extension hasn't been experimentally validated yet. > > Whoever you are who keeps flying pigeons between my test towers, you can't > deliver packets with

RE: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread Jamie Bowden
> From: Dobbins, Roland [mailto:rdobb...@arbor.net] > On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Such lines are tantamount to extortion especially if the ISP supplies > commercial grade lines. > Patrick's talking about consumer broadband access. Such AUP stipulations > are quite comm

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-02 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Open Resolver Problems Date: Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:25:53AM +0200 Quoting Mikael Abrahamsson (swm...@swm.pp.se): > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Måns Nilsson wrote: > > >What percentage of the SOHO NAT boxes actually are full-service > >resolvers? I was under the impression that most were mer

Re: BCP38 tester?

2013-04-02 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 4/1/13, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> It would just be way too much luck and convenience for that to happen >> by coincidence. > > Once in a while, you win. The trouble with winning by coincidence or winning as a side-effect... Do you keep winning? What happens with IPv6 CPE devices, when there is