Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, Ted Hatfield wrote: First of all DSL is not pots. [] DSL is a data service that runs on the subscriber loop at the same time as the voice service. This service is not required to be battery backed and will invariably stop working when power is cut at the customer

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/14/19 4:16 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: Of course this is a lot of conjecture on my part... be glad to be clued in by folks in know. An old news story, but telco's usually have backup batteries in their outside plant, cell towers, etc.  During

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/14/19 4:39 PM, Brandon Martin wrote: All the conventional telcos are far more focused on keeping voice service alive since they get raked over the coals by the FCC if it drops due to lack of 911.  That includes wireless if they are both a wireline and wireless operator. 

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/14/19 8:26 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: So when we were working on this 20 years ago at Cisco, there was a tremendous amount of effort to deal with the issue of e911 and generally battery backup. I'm really surprised to hear that though we went through a lot of effort to deal with the CPE,

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/14/19 3:06 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: That is not why people are surprised.  When the house doesn't have power, and doesn't have home generator or UPS, (most) people are less surprised their DSL or Cable modem and VOIP doesn't work anymore. The reasons I saw people angry on twitter was

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/14/19 6:38 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: So it turns out that our local telco/isp does keep dsl running via the same mechanism as they keep pots power backed up (i'm guessing it's a diesel generator at the co, but am not sure). It seems that a lot of the pedestals terminating the local

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: Of course this is a lot of conjecture on my part... be glad to be clued in by folks in know. An old news story, but telco's usually have backup batteries in their outside plant, cell towers, etc. During power outages, they shuttle small generators

APRICOT 2020 Call for PC Volunteers

2019-10-14 Thread Mark Tinka
Hi everyone, The APRICOT 2020 Programme Committee is responsible for the solicitation and selection of suitable presentation and tutorial content for the APRICOT 2020 conference (https://2020.apricot.net/). The APRICOT PC Chairs are now seeking nominations from the community to join the APRICOT

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Lyle
All true telco equipment is powered by batteries. Commerical power or generators just recharge the batteries. No switch over when commerical power is lost. Except when the generators(where equiped) switch over to recharge the batteries. Comcast and telcos do not put batteries in all remote

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: deal with the CPE, that the cable plant was the actual problem. The cable companies should, imo, be held to the same standard as the telcos. Maybe even moreso these days since IP has taken over everything. The need for reliable e911 hasn't gone away

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 03:38, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > I think you should seriously re-consider using rp_filter on a router. rp_filter is one of the most expensive features in modern routers, you should only use it, if PPS performance is not important. If PPS performance is important,

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-14 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 14 octobre 2019 09:14 +03, Saku Ytti : >> I think you should seriously re-consider using rp_filter on a router. > > rp_filter is one of the most expensive features in modern routers, you > should only use it, if PPS performance is not important. If PPS > performance is important, ACL is much

IP Geolocation

2019-10-14 Thread Travis Garrison
Anyone else have issues where their IP block gets randomly set to China? We have been trying to track down this issue for months and our customers are starting to get upset. We get a /29 from our upstream provider that we CGNAT (yeah I know, working on implementing IPV6) to all of our customers

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-14 Thread Ted Hatfield
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: On 10/11/19 4:31 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: The FCC asked a half-dozen carriers about their network resilience plans last month.  Comcast was not one of the service providers askedd about their plans. The FCC should have looked

Re: IP Geolocation

2019-10-14 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Travis Garrison wrote: > > Anyone else have issues where their IP block gets randomly set to China? We > have been trying to track down this issue for months and our customers are > starting to get upset. We get a /29 from our upstream provider that we CGNAT

Re: IP Geolocation

2019-10-14 Thread Paul Farag
Is this an indication of a prefix that was highjacked? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Ben Cannon wrote: >

.COM Zone DNSSEC Operational Update -- ZSK length change

2019-10-14 Thread Wessels, Duane via NANOG
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 All, Verisign is in the process of increasing the size and strength of the DNSSEC Zone Signing Keys (ZSKs) for the top-level domains that it operates. As part of this process, the ZSK for the .COM zone will be increased in size from 1024 to 1280

Re: IP Geolocation

2019-10-14 Thread Josh Luthman
http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 11:38 AM Jared Mauch wrote: > > > > On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Travis Garrison > wrote: > > > > Anyone else have issues

New telemetry system ideas

2019-10-14 Thread Chris Misa
I am a researcher working on developing a new switch-based on-the-fly telemetry system that takes a flow chart as input to describe a particular detection task (rather than just features or information elements as in IPFIX). For an example of what I mean by "flow chart" see the figure here:

Re: IP Geolocation

2019-10-14 Thread Ben Cannon
Agreed, I’ve seen this before across wider boundaries. Even /22s. -Ben > On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > >  > >> On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Travis Garrison wrote: >> >> Anyone else have issues where their IP block gets randomly set to China? We >> have been trying to