Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Gustav Ulander
And ipv4 I presume so there is still easier and cost less money to just go with that. From our point as an MSP no customer has a requirement that they want to be able to be reached via IPV6 so it’s still cheaper to buy up IPV4 address space and do a lot of nat than to convert all our services

Relative size of IRR registries

2021-10-23 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Recent discussions about ARIN-NONAUTH made me wonder what would be the impact of discontinuing *-NONAUTH IRR registries. These are the current size of all IRR registries I was able to mirror, ordered by the number of aut-num objects. source | total obj | rt obj | aut-num obj RIPE 948401 368596

Re: ipv4 on mobile networks

2021-10-23 Thread Ca By
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:33 AM Michael Thomas wrote: > So I'm curious how the mobile operators deploying ipv6 to the handsets are > dealing with ipv4. The simplest would be to get the phone a routable ipv4 > address, but that would seemingly exacerbate the reason they went to v6 in > the first

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Fred Baker
I think you will find that there are some places in which getting IPv6 network service has been difficult, and as a result even IPv6-capable equipment is not reachable by IPv6. Those are, however, few and far between. Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On Oct 23,

Re: ipv4 on mobile networks

2021-10-23 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/23/21 11:52 AM, Ca By wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:33 AM Michael Thomas wrote: So I'm curious how the mobile operators deploying ipv6 to the handsets are dealing with ipv4. The simplest would be to get the phone a routable ipv4 address, but that would seemingly

ipv4 on mobile networks

2021-10-23 Thread Michael Thomas
So I'm curious how the mobile operators deploying ipv6 to the handsets are dealing with ipv4. The simplest would be to get the phone a routable ipv4 address, but that would seemingly exacerbate the reason they went to v6 in the first place. Are carriers NAT'ing somewhere along the line? If so,

Re: [routing-wg] Relative size of IRR registries

2021-10-23 Thread Rubens Kuhl
You are right on all counts but (3). IRRd 4.2 has a feature called scope filter, and the results below had the following in effect: scopefilter: prefixes: - 10.0.0.0/8 - 172.16.0.0/12 - 192.168.0.0/16 asns: - 23456

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Brian Johnson
> On Oct 23, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Ca By wrote: > > 87% of mobiles in the usa are ipv6 > > https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ > > Agreed. When they have to connect to an IPv4 only host, they do some type of AFTR. These devices have

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread David Conrad
Bryan, On Oct 22, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Bryan Fields wrote: > On 10/22/21 11:13 AM, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: >> Another aspect that flabbergasts me anno 2021 is how there *still* are >> BGP peering disputes between (more than two) major global internet service >> providers in which IPv6 is

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Ca By
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 8:48 AM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 10/22/21 11:13 AM, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: > > Another aspect that flabbergasts me anno 2021 is how there *still* are > > BGP peering disputes between (more than two) major global internet > service > > providers in which IPv6 is

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 15:17 Fred Baker wrote: > I think you will find that there are some places in which getting IPv6 > network service has been difficult, and as a result even IPv6- Fred, do you mean places like, all of Verizon FiOS? capable equipment is not reachable by IPv6. Those are,

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Bryan Fields
On 10/23/21 9:03 AM, David Conrad wrote: > Bryan, > >> Even the DNS root servers are not 100% reachable via IPv6. > > Excepting temporary failures, they are as far as I am aware. Why do you > think they aren’t? I can't reach C, 2001:500:2::c, from many places in v6 land. My home and secondary

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Bryan Fields
On 10/23/21 9:30 AM, Ca By wrote: >> Until IPv6 becomes provides a way to make money for the ISP, I don't see it >> being offered outside of the datacenter. > > 87% of mobiles in the usa are ipv6 > > https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ Mobile is different, v6 makes financial sense as

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-10-23 Thread Fred Baker
Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On Oct 23, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 15:17 Fred Baker wrote: >> I think you will find that there are some places in which getting IPv6 >> network service has been difficult, and

Re: DC Power choices (was Re: Network visibility)

2021-10-23 Thread Bryan Fields
On 10/22/21 1:13 AM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > It was, in fact, pretty impressive to look at. But I was a little worried > about > the loading on the building frame. :-) > > And while I think there might be advantages in running power supplies in gear > at -48, I'd want to rectify it in the