Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Mark Newton wrote: On 23/03/2010, at 3:43 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: With the smaller routing table afforded by IPv6, this will be less expensive. As a result, I suspect there will be more IPv6 small multihomers. That's generally a good thing. Puzzled: How

Re: NSP-SEC

2010-03-23 Thread Guillaume FORTAINE
Conclusion : if you can't reply to these fundamental questions, hire a CISO and build a CSIRT. sigh I *so* hate making an argument from authority (other than I think smb published a paper on that already), but in your case I'll make an exception. Go read

MPLS Provider at New York ?

2010-03-23 Thread Stephane MAGAND
Hi I don't see on google a list of MPLS Provider at New York City. Anyone know a small mpls provider in this city ? Bye Stephane

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Mark Newton wrote: On 23/03/2010, at 3:43 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: With the smaller routing table afforded by IPv6, this will be less expensive. As a result, I suspect there will be more IPv6 small

Re: NSP-SEC

2010-03-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:13:48 BST, Guillaume FORTAINE said: I have read with interest this document. (lots of irrelevant commentary elided - the vast majority of which merely confirms the point that a lot of people have been doing further research on issues that we identified a decade and more

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:17 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Mark Newton wrote: On 23/03/2010, at 3:43 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: With the smaller routing table afforded by IPv6, this will be

Re: NSP-SEC

2010-03-23 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/03/2010 12:59, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: And now, you're still acting like you've got new unique insights and going out of your way to irritate the very same more experienced people that you probably should be trying to learn from, when you haven't bothered to find out that you're

Cisco Unified Computing System

2010-03-23 Thread Claudia de Luna
Hello, Does anyone have any hands on experience with Cisco's Unified Computing System? Knowing some of the issues it purports to address the solution seems compelling but the devil is in the details. I generally lean towards the best of breed approach and am wary of any solution that claims

CHINANET-JX Contact

2010-03-23 Thread Mehmet Akcin
inetnum: 59.52.0.0 - 59.55.255.255 netname: CHINANET-JX descr:CHINANET Jiangxi province network descr:China Telecom Anyone from China Telecom , can you please contact me off-list? Thanks Mehmet

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I think that the additive nature of the IPv6/IPv4 routing tables  will be the driving factor for deprecation of IPv4 pretty quickly once IPv6 starts to reach critical mass.  The problem is that we are so early on the IPv6

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I think that the additive nature of the IPv6/IPv4 routing tables will be the driving factor for deprecation of IPv4 pretty quickly once IPv6 starts to reach

Re: 2009 IPv4 Address Use Report

2010-03-23 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: [ (Non-cross)posted to NANOG, PPML, RIPE IPv6 wg, Dutch IPv6 TF. Web version for the monospace font impaired and with some links: http://www.bgpexpert.com/addrspace2009.php ] 2009 IPv4 Address Use Report As of January first, 2010, the number of unused IPv4

Re: 2009 IPv4 Address Use Report

2010-03-23 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Christopher Morrow wrote: it's not clear that 1.1.1.0/24 is actually assigned to anyone, RIPE/APNIC were just using for some experiments. Did you actually mean 1.0.0.0/8? Uhm, yes of course. Thanks :-)

Experiences with A10 AX series Load Balancers?

2010-03-23 Thread Welch, Bryan
Does anyone have any experiences good/bad/indifferent with this company and their products? They claim 2x the performance at ½ the cost and am a bit leery as you can imagine. We are looking to replace our aging F5 BigIP LTM's and will be evaluating these along with the Netscaler and new

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Newton
On 24/03/2010, at 4:10 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it seems to me that we'll have widespread ipv4 for +10 years at least, How many 10 year old pieces of kit do you have on your network? Ten years ago we were routing appletalk and IPX. Still doing that now? Ten years ago companies were

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread bmanning
tell me Mark, when will you turn off -all- IPv4 in your network? no snmp/aaa, no syslog, no radius, no licensed s/w keyed to a v4 address, no need to keep logs for leos' (whats the data retention law in your jurisdiction?) etc... simple switching of

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Newton
On 24/03/2010, at 1:46 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: tell me Mark, when will you turn off -all- IPv4 in your network? I don't imagine there'll be a date as such; We'll just enable IPv6 versions of the services you've mentioned on equipment which supports it, and note

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:24:45PM +1030, Mark Newton wrote: On 24/03/2010, at 1:46 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: tell me Mark, when will you turn off -all- IPv4 in your network? I don't imagine there'll be a date as such; We'll just enable IPv6 versions of the

Re: IP4 Space

2010-03-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mark Newton new...@internode.com.au wrote: On 24/03/2010, at 4:10 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it seems to me that we'll have widespread ipv4 for +10 years at least, How many 10 year old pieces of kit do you have on your network? it's not my network anymore