Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Paul WALL
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Richard Bennett rich...@bennett.com wrote: The FCC is structured in such a way that the chairman calls all the shots on policy matters. In this instance, the former chairman, Kevin Martin, was responsible for the Comcast order but the current chairman, Julius

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Paul WALL pauldotw...@gmail.com wrote: It should probably be noted, for purpose of establishing bias, that Richard is a Washington lobbyist, hired to represent Comcast on regulatory matters.  What he views as overstepping legal bounds, others may view as

Re: legacy /8

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Vixie
From: David Conrad d...@virtualized.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:52:24 -1000 On Apr 11, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: ... i'd like to pick the easiest problem and for that reason i'm urging dual-stack ipv4/ipv6 for all networks new or old. Is anyone arguing against this? yes.

Re: legacy /8

2010-04-12 Thread Randy Bush
plenty of people have accused ipv6 of being a solution in search of a problem. on this very mailing list within the last 72 hours i've seen another person assert that ipv6 isn't needed. while i tend to agree with tony li who of ipv6 famously said it was too little and too soon we have been

Re: Solar Flux

2010-04-12 Thread Leigh Porter
Ahh so it was Cosmic Rays that caused all the VIPs to crash and CEF to route traffic up its own ass? Now I understand.. -- Leigh Porter On 11/04/10 22:06, Joe wrote: The topic of sunspots is certainly familiar from long ago. We had a 7513 that crashed unexpectedly, upon a review

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
You have multiple options 1. Ironport / Fortinet etc gateways. [Not barracuda - hardly carrier class, enterprise grade more like it] 2. Outsource to a provider like Messagelabs or MXLogic that only handles the spam filtering, lets you host your own mailboxes 3. Outsource to one or more

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Alex Kamiru
Suresh, I am more interested in option 1 and would want opinion from those with experience on that. -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com To: Alex Kamiru nderitua...@gmail.com Cc: nanog nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Right. Just to add one more choice into your mix .. Bizanga is one such vendor that I've seen deployed by carriers who want an appliance. They were recently acquired by Cloudmark. There are also rate limiting .. kind of like netflow for email type devices - Symantec E160, and Mailchannels

Re: Solar Flux

2010-04-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
George Bonser gbon...@seven.com writes: -Original Message- From: Pete Carah [mailto:p...@altadena.net] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:41 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Solar Flux And to top it all off, how many picojoules are stored in a modern ram cell compared to the

Re: Solar Flux

2010-04-12 Thread todd glassey
On 4/11/2010 10:04 AM, Joel M Snyder wrote: SNIP On the other hand, another effect of solar flares is UV radiation, so a good pair of sunglasses and some high-SPF sunblock would be good to have, plus make you look less like a nerd. Unless you use that zinc stuff on your nose, in which

RE: Seeking Amazon EC2 abuse contact

2010-04-12 Thread Erik L
Michael, I've received numerous off-list responses yesterday. Most of them were asking if I've made contact with anyone there as they were being attacked as well. One gentleman who works at AWS (but not EC2 abuse) promised to forward my e-mail to them. I've also been reading the asterisk-users

RE: Seeking Amazon EC2 abuse contact

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Scholten
Hello Erik, Do you care to share the IP address? So everyone could update their firewalls to block the attacks? Even only blocking known SIP ports (5060) could be a good idea. With kind regards, Mark Scholten -Original Message- From: Erik L [mailto:erik_l...@caneris.com] Sent:

Re: unsubscribe

2010-04-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, David Loutrel wrote: -- David B. Loutrel, Operations Manager ACME Hosting Design [1]www.acme-ent.net References 1. http://www.acme-ent.net/ If you look in the message headers, you will see list management info, including how to unsubscribe yourself from the

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread todd glassey
On 4/12/2010 2:49 AM, Alex Kamiru wrote: I am in the process of sourcing for a carrier class email security solution that will replace our current edge spam gateways based on open source solutions. Some solutions that am currently considering are Ironport, Fortinet Fortimail, MailFoundry and

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 07:09 -0700, todd glassey wrote: On 4/12/2010 2:49 AM, Alex Kamiru wrote: I am in the process of sourcing for a carrier class email security solution that will replace our current edge spam gateways based on open source solutions. Some solutions that am currently

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread todd glassey
On 4/12/2010 7:14 AM, William Pitcock wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 07:09 -0700, todd glassey wrote: On 4/12/2010 2:49 AM, Alex Kamiru wrote: I am in the process of sourcing for a carrier class email security solution that will replace our current edge spam gateways based on open source

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
The man did say carrier class .. not small webhost for four families and dog. You're talking multiple mailservers + filtering gateways / appliances etc, clustered .. rather tough to do that with one pizzabox 1U running a linux that's not updated in years and configured with webmin. And have you

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Joel M Snyder
I am in the process of sourcing for a carrier class email security solution that will replace our current edge spam gateways based on open source solutions. Some solutions that am currently considering are Ironport, Fortinet Fortimail, MailFoundry and Barracuda. A lot of the answer depends on

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread todd glassey
On 4/12/2010 7:22 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The man did say carrier class .. not small webhost for four families and dog. yes he did Suresh ... meaning that something larger and more secure than the off-the-shelf copy of Linux is needed. Funny the NSA and many others would disagree

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread John Curran
On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Joe Greco wrote: Further, given the purported role that InterNIC played, exchange of value as a prerequisite is a rather questionable position to rely on; InterNIC had motivations other than a purely financial one to organize IP allocations. The number

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:09:12 -0700 todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net wrote: Alex there are many email systems out there - but make sure that whatever you buy can support NTPv4 and not SNTP or unauthenticated NTP since this is how the GW is going to be able to put time-marks on receipts

Re: Metering power in data center

2010-04-12 Thread NOC
Hi, For our need, we use : http://www.lem.com/ They have a lot of products to do that. We use a magnetic meter. You don't need to break the circuit to implement it. Regards, Bastien Wallace Keith a écrit : -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:45 PM, todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net wrote: On 4/12/2010 7:22 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The man did say carrier class .. not small webhost for four families and dog. yes he did Suresh ... meaning that something larger and more secure than the

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Zaid Ali
I haven't seen the man ask support for messages/hour, 3M..10M..1B ? Or maybe I missed this question? Zaid On 4/12/10 8:47 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:45 PM, todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net wrote: On 4/12/2010 7:22 AM, Suresh

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Its nanog and not an RFQ process or I'd have asked him that too :) On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: I haven't seen the man ask support for messages/hour, 3M..10M..1B ? Or maybe I missed this question? -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread Joe Greco
On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Joe Greco wrote: Further, given the purported role that InterNIC played, exchange of value as a prerequisite is a rather questionable position to rely on; InterNIC had motivations other than a purely financial one to organize IP allocations. The number

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Joe Greco wrote: Further, given the purported role that InterNIC played, exchange of value as a prerequisite is a rather questionable position to rely on; InterNIC had motivations other than a

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Zaid Ali
I think it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask in NANOG. If someone asks how much memory do I need on my router to do BGP, you have to ask the fundamental question of how big your routing table will be. I don't see this as any different. Its helpful to provide opinions when you are guided by

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I did ask him how many users he was looking to size email for. But a lot of questions like, and beyond, that - you may or may not want to answer on nanog. The man said carrier class .. and you have a set of assumptions. If you say enterprise you're assuming like 300K..400K mailboxes for the

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/12/2010 10:22 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: The man did say carrier class .. not small webhost for four families and dog. You're talking multiple mailservers + filtering gateways / appliances etc, clustered .. rather tough to do that with one pizzabox 1U running a linux that's not

Re: Carrier class email security recommendation

2010-04-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Scale it all. Then manage it centrally. Provision users. Manage security. etc etc. You use much the same IOS whether you run a router for a T1 or run networks for a tier 1 :) On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:51 PM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: I build basically the same mail-system where is

Re: Solar Flux

2010-04-12 Thread James Downs
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 AM, todd glassey wrote: Barbie is geek girl or Engineer Barbie the idea that being a geek is offensive may have finally been put to death as it should have 20 years ago. Of course, Joel used the word nerd, so.. So, does anyone actually talk about networks on

RE: Seeking Amazon EC2 abuse contact

2010-04-12 Thread Erik L
Many thanks again to the large number of off-list responses. After making human contact, the issue was very promptly resolved by Amazon and a gentleman there has promised to look into the error on the abuse form as well. Erik From: Mark Scholten

Re: Seeking Amazon EC2 abuse contact

2010-04-12 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/12/2010 11:51, Erik L wrote: Many thanks again to the large number of off-list responses. After making human contact, the issue was very promptly resolved by Amazon and a gentleman there has promised to look into the error on the abuse form as well. And people say talk of routing their

Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Negro
Before I get taken for a ride by salespeople, I figured it would be best to ask the experts of Nanog My company is currently in talks to bring an ethernet circuit into our headquarters, initially committing around 40Mbps. The ISP will be providing ethernet handoff, but I do not want their

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
a PowerRouter at http://www.mikrotikrouter.com can handle several hundred meg without issues. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
Jeffrey, We have deployed metro Ethernet in our network... some things to consider: 1) Is metro Ethernet available end to end, if not will you utilize MPLS? 2) We've deployed Juniper EX3200s, Cisco has great solutions as well... for example 2800 series router. We use Cisco as well. 3) Metro

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Dylan Ebner
We use metro E for our WAN and our internet access delivery. The 2600 series routers do not have enough horsepower to do a 40 Mb connection and eigrp. The 2811 can do 40 mb and eigrp but they start to have difficulty when you add in inspection or large ACLs. We just last week turned a 40mb

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:55:29PM +, Dylan Ebner wrote: also terminiating. For our 100mb metro e connections we use 3845s. The 100 mb service terminates into NM-GEs, which have a FWIW, we made the mistake of going for 3825s on a 50Mb/s policed GigE. Running GRE/IPSec (AIM-VPN'd) and QoS,

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Negro
In our case I believe we would be dealing with just static routes and a lines of ACL. Do you think the routing protocols are your largest resource usage in your scenario, or is it also just simple routing as well? Jeffrey Negro, Network Engineer Billtrust - Improving Your Billing, Improving

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Stewart
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Dylan Ebner dylan.eb...@crlmed.com wrote: However, this router also has 2 100mb connections from local lans that it is also terminiating. For our 100mb metro e connections we use 3845s. The 100 mb service terminates into NM-GEs, which have a faster

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Kevin Loch
Jeffrey Negro wrote: In our case I believe we would be dealing with just static routes and a lines of ACL. In that case a linux/FreeBSD router would work great. - Kevin

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread David Conrad
John, On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:23 AM, John Curran wrote: On this matter we do agree, since allocations prior to ARIN's formation were generally made pursuant to a US Government contract or cooperative agreement. As we're both aware, Jon was funded in part via the ISI Teranode Network

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Bennett
One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially regarding my occupation. For the last 9 months or so I've been working part-time with a Washington think tank in an analyst capacity, not as a lobbyist, and not on the Comcast

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 4/12/10 2:42 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: ... the guy who wrote the first IEEE 802 standard for Ethernet over twisted pair ... I'm certain that's who you are. Hell, what I do for CORE means I'm a ICANN lobbyist when I'm not writing code, and I'd prefer to be the guy who wrote XPG/1 and XPG/4.2

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Jason Gurtz
question is about hardware. Can I assume that I can use something like a Cisco 2000 series router with two built in fast/gig ethernet ports, without a WIC? For Cisco, check out the ME3400 series of switches. Be sure to look at the IOS licensing carefully to see if the features you need are

Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread James Jones
I am currently looking at using RouterOS as a way to build a Metro Ethernet solution. Does anyone have experience with the device and the OS? How is the performance? Are there any Gotchas? -James

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Dylan Ebner
Taffic shaping and eigrp eat a lot. inspection is huge as well. I have no ida what the new zone based firewalling will do to a 2800, but after seeing it on an 1800, I know it will not be pretty. static acls should be easy if they are not really large. I wouldn't go out and grab the new CRYMU

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Paul WALL
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Richard Bennett rich...@bennett.com wrote: One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially regarding my occupation. For the last 9 months or so I've been working part-time with a Washington think

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Jeffrey Negro wrote: In our case I believe we would be dealing with just static routes and a lines of ACL. Do you think the routing protocols are your largest resource usage in your scenario, or is it also just simple routing as well? If your needs are simple IP routing

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread David Andersen
On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Paul WALL wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Richard Bennett rich...@bennett.com wrote: One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially regarding my occupation. For the last 9 months or so I've

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Gustavo Santos
its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while.. 2010/4/12 Adrian Minta adrian.mi...@gmail.com James Jones wrote: I am currently looking at using RouterOS as a way to build a Metro Ethernet solution. Does anyone have experience with the device and the OS? How is the performance? Are

RE: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
As it said, it was two fold, one the MT allowed it, and 2, the Cisco's crashed with it! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 12-4-2010 21:44, Gustavo Santos wrote: its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while.. You should still keep in mind Mikrotik is just Linux, with all its (dis)advantages, plus some scripts and weird CLI. -- Grzegorz Janoszka

RE: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
It runs the Linux kernal, bout it anymore! A few existing linux apps but super clean CLI, easy to use, awsome GUI. ;) Heck, the whole OS runs within 64meg of disk space if you wanted it too! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Bennett
You're speculating that ITIF gets funding from Comcast, and therefore guessing I'm singing Comcast's song. But you don't know whether Comcast actually is an ITIF sponsor, just as you don't know whether Google, Intel, and Microsoft are ITIF sponsors. And then you're speculating again

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Franck Martin
http://www.vyatta.com/ ?

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread James Jones
kind ofrouterOS supports MPLS, linux does not On 4/12/10 3:48 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: On 12-4-2010 21:44, Gustavo Santos wrote: its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while.. You should still keep in mind Mikrotik is just Linux, with all its (dis)advantages, plus some

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Jake Khuon
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 21:48 +0200, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: On 12-4-2010 21:44, Gustavo Santos wrote: its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while.. You should still keep in mind Mikrotik is just Linux, with all its (dis)advantages, plus some scripts and weird CLI. That's like

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread James Downs
On Apr 12, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: You're speculating that ITIF gets funding from Comcast, and therefore If only the ITIF released information about their funding sources. So, does Comcast contribute funds or otherwise sponsor ITIF? Does Google, Intel, or Microsoft?

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread Gordon Cook
David, in 1997 and 1998 I was spending about 25% of my time interview the principals and engaged in informal conversations with Ira Magaziner,Kim Hubbard, DonMitchell and others. I was in Londone in late jan 1998 when Jon tried to redirect the root. Magaziner was there and daniel karenburg

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Stonix Farstone
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Richard Bennett rich...@bennett.comwrote: One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially regarding my occupation. For the last 9 months or so I've been working part-time with a Washington think

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Bennett
Thanks for pointing that out. RB On 4/12/2010 2:06 PM, Stonix Farstone wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Richard Bennett [1]rich...@bennett.com wrote: One of the things I like about e-mail lists is learning things about myself that I never knew before, especially

Please do not respond to Dean and CC the NANOG list

2010-04-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
[SNIP] Richard, and anyone else who missed the last dozen or more times this has been discussed: The NANOG list would appreciate if people who are sent Dean's private missives do not reply all and CC the list. Those who were not CC'ed personally (and do not filter Dean) do not see his posts.

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/9/10 5:27 AM, Joe Greco wrote: ARIN might not have a contract with us, or with other legacy holders. It wasn't our choice for ARIN to be tasked with holding up InterNIC's end of things. However, it's likely that they've concluded that they better do so, because if they don't, it'll

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread gordon b slater
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 16:06 -0400, James Jones wrote: kind ofrouterOS supports MPLS, linux does not It could (unfortunately) be a while before a full linux implementation of MPLS gains enough speed, it's very much out on the fringe of what linux does daily. This mean that getting enough

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Persio Pucci
I've been considering routerOS boxes to my less important POPs that are candidates to be promoted to MPLS-enabled POPs, although I am still a little skeptical about it. Still doing some lab trials with it, but have not deployed it yet besides as a CE router. The reason is that I've ran into

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Owen DeLong
Yes, but, according to the Mikrotik web site they appear to be obsolete and incapable of routing IPv6. Owen On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: a PowerRouter at http://www.mikrotikrouter.com can handle several hundred meg without issues.

Re: Mikrotik RouterOS

2010-04-12 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Jake Khuon kh...@neebu.net wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 21:48 +0200, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: On 12-4-2010 21:44, Gustavo Santos wrote: its was an old bug, that had been fixed for a while.. You should still keep in mind Mikrotik is just Linux, with all its

RE: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Frank Bulk
We run a 3845 at over 300 Mbps and it's less than 50% CPUmost times less than 30%. No BGP, just OSPF. Frank -Original Message- From: Bill Stewart [mailto:nonobvi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:27 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Router for Metro Ethernet On Mon,

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Owen DeLong
I stand corrected on the Mikrotik... Apparently, while not well documented, they do, indeed support IPv6 and their Wiki even includes tunnel configuration information. Apologies to Mikrotik (and some encouragement to add this to your main-line documentation). Owen On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:56 PM,

Re: Router for Metro Ethernet

2010-04-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Jeffrey Negro wrote: In our case I believe we would be dealing with just static routes and a lines of ACL. Do you think the routing protocols are your largest resource usage in your scenario, or is it also just simple routing as well? Get a used 3550 or a new 3400ME or