Re: Christchurch New Zealand

The other CERT: Community Emergency Response Team. Kind of off-topic for NANOG but I know that most of us are concerned with disaster recovery. This is the first local line. For US folks, there should be a CERT for you city or county, if not ask why. For Canadians, check with PEP. The CERT pr

Re: atdn.net issues

On 2/22/2011 11:39 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > Anyone know who to contact for issues with atdn.net? Their website is not > exactly a well of information. > > All connections from my network to anything at atdn (AOL, etc.) are dying at > atdn's edge. > > Traceroutes go out through xo.net. I hav

atdn.net issues

Anyone know who to contact for issues with atdn.net? Their website is not exactly a well of information. All connections from my network to anything at atdn (AOL, etc.) are dying at atdn's edge. Traceroutes go out through xo.net. I have verified that both of my upstream providers can get the

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Randy Bush wrote: There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this position seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in operating production networks.

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, David Hubbard wrote: I was wondering if anyone has a howto floating around on the step by step setup of having an internal bgp peer for sending quick updates to border routers to null route sources of undesirable traffic? I've seen it discussed on nanog from time to time, t

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

>>> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that >>> IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this >>> position seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in >>> operating production networks. >> >> excuse me! > > Hi, Randy. I didn't mean to

Re: Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?

Confirmed here. It's solved with a temporary solution. The ticket is still open with in Telia. -- Raphaël Maunier NEO TELECOMS CTO / Responsable Ingénierie AS8218 On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Arnold Nipper wrote: > on 23.02.2011 00:59 Ryan Gelobter wrote: > >> Does anyone have some detailed i

Re: Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?

on 23.02.2011 00:59 Ryan Gelobter wrote: > Does anyone have some detailed information about the internet issues > going on in Sweden and other parts of Europe right now? I've read > some reports about a large Telia outage in Sweden indicating a fault > somewhere in Frankfurt or London as the cause

Re: Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?

On 02/23/2011 12:59 AM, Ryan Gelobter wrote: > Does anyone have some detailed information about the internet issues > going on in Sweden and other parts of Europe right now? I've read > some reports about a large Telia outage in Sweden indicating a fault > somewhere in Frankfurt or London as the ca

Internet Issues in Europe Tonight?

Does anyone have some detailed information about the internet issues going on in Sweden and other parts of Europe right now? I've read some reports about a large Telia outage in Sweden indicating a fault somewhere in Frankfurt or London as the cause. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article860930

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

I can't give you a step-by-step with configuration examples off the top of my head, but, hopefully this helps: 1. Create a static anchor route to a magic "next-hop" value such as 192.168.99.99 or whatever you choose. 2. Configure all your routers to route 192.168.99.99 to null.

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, David Hubbard wrote: > I've seen it discussed on nanog from time to time, typically suggesting using > Zebra, but could not search up a link on a step by step. ---

Re: [OT] Internet connectivity options in Afghanistan?

On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Janet Sullivan wrote: > I'm looking for cheap/slow internet connectivity options in Kabul, Jalalabad, > and Herat. The connections will be used by AFCECO orphanages, so speed isn't > as much of an issue as cost. I'm guessing that satellite might be the only > gam

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that >>> IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this >>> position seems to be most pronounced from

admin-c/tech-c deny responsibility/ownership of netblock

I am responsibility of the subnet. How can i help you? We already added abuse-mailbox to whois information. Semih.

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Tony Hain wrote: > Seriously, some people will not move until the path they are on is already > burning, which is why they did nothing over the last 5 years despite knowing > that the IANA pool was exhausting much faster than they had wanted to > believe. It took gett

RE: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

Benson Schliesser wrote: > On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > >> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that > >> IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this > >> position seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in > >> ope

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that IPv6 is >> the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this position seems to >> be most pronounced from people not involved in operating production >> networks. But

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

I've used them as well and they have been pretty good with gear that's common place. Just be careful if you get off the beaten path and are using gear like an IAD-2431-16FXS. They can help you with the hardware side on that kind of stuff but not so much with the software. Richey -Origin

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:54 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:29:23 CST, Benson Schliesser said: >> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that IPv6 >> is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this position >> seems to be most pronounc

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

2011/2/22 Jared Mauch : > Also: > > http://docs.as701.net/tmp/CustomerBlackhole.txt > > Remember to set eBGP multihop on sessions for the next-hop rewrite capability > :) oh hey, I was looking for that! :) (I'll try to re-setup the www.secsup.org links tonight) ... this is a 'how to setup so a c

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

Also: http://docs.as701.net/tmp/CustomerBlackhole.txt Remember to set eBGP multihop on sessions for the next-hop rewrite capability :) - Jared On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > On 2011-02-22 22:42, David Hubbard wrote: >> I was wondering if anyone has a howto floating arou

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:29:23 CST, Benson Schliesser said: > There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that IPv6 > is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this position > seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in operating > production networks. "m

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

Maybe I read your question wrong, but null-routing things at your border is often not very useful if the traffic is flooding your transit links. Most transits publish their community lists - you just need to tag the prefix you want to blackhole with the right community. See example from HE: http:/

Re: Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

On 2011-02-22 22:42, David Hubbard wrote: I was wondering if anyone has a howto floating around on the step by step setup of having an internal bgp peer for sending quick updates to border routers to null route sources of undesirable traffic? I've seen it discussed on nanog from time to time, ty

Howto for BGP black holing/null routing

I was wondering if anyone has a howto floating around on the step by step setup of having an internal bgp peer for sending quick updates to border routers to null route sources of undesirable traffic? I've seen it discussed on nanog from time to time, typically suggesting using Zebra, but could no

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that >> IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this >> position seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in >> operating production networks. > > exc

Re: [OT] Internet connectivity options in Afghanistan?

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Janet Sullivan wrote: > I'm looking for cheap/slow internet connectivity options in Kabul, > Jalalabad, and Herat.  The connections will be used by AFCECO orphanages, so > speed isn't as much of an issue as cost.  I'm guessing that satellite might > be the only gam

Re: BGP Failover Question

Uncle! -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd." -Jack Herer On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Hammer wrote: > > I agree. But swapping providers is not the default answer in some > environments. I work in an enterprise with multiple GE

[OT] Internet connectivity options in Afghanistan?

I'm looking for cheap/slow internet connectivity options in Kabul, Jalalabad, and Herat. The connections will be used by AFCECO orphanages, so speed isn't as much of an issue as cost. I'm guessing that satellite might be the only game in town, but if any of you fine folks know of connectivity

Re: admin-c/tech-c deny responsibility/ownership of netblock

On 22 feb 2011, at 20:44, goe...@anime.net wrote: > The admin-c, tech-c deny any responsibility for this netblock. Have you talked to RIPE?

Re: admin-c/tech-c deny responsibility/ownership of netblock

What do you mean: "deny any responsibility"? I'm not sure I follow exactly, please be more specific? -- ricky

admin-c/tech-c deny responsibility/ownership of netblock

Is there a process to revoke netblocks from entities which deny ownership? http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=77.223.129.43 The admin-c, tech-c deny any responsibility for this netblock. -Dan

Re: BGP Failover Question

On Feb 22, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Hammer wrote: > I agree. But swapping providers is not the default answer in some > environments. I work in an enterprise with multiple GE circuits from multiple > providers to the Internet. The lead time on calling up a different carrier > and saying "I need a gi

Re: BGP Failover Question

Funny, I was just at your IPv6 sight this morning while researching multihoming scenarios. "That name sounds familiar." -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd." -Jack Herer On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Hammer wrote: > I agree. But swapping providers is not the default answer in

Re: BGP Failover Question

I agree. But swapping providers is not the default answer in some environments. I work in an enterprise with multiple GE circuits from multiple providers to the Internet. The lead time on calling up a different carrier and saying "I need a gigabit connection to the Internet" would probably be 90-12

Re: BGP Failover Question

Assuming that he has provider independent space (why run full BGP feeds if you are not multihomed?), then, actually it's about on par and less disruptive in general. Add new provider, wait a day or two, then disconnect old provider. If he's using provider assigned space, then, the big hurdle is s

Re: BGP Failover Question

I'm not argueing that at all. But it wasn't relevent to the question at hand. And depending on the scale of your business dumping providers is not something done on a whim. It's not like your fed up with DSL and want to convert to Cable. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd." -Jack Herer

Re: BGP Failover Question

On 02/22/2011 12:23 PM, Hammer wrote: As Max stated, you can set triggers based on thresholds that are monitered via multiple methods in Cisco IOS. That way you could force the route down dynamically. There's always a risk when letting the machines do the thinking but this would help in situation

RE: Contact for APEWS.org?

> APEWS is braindead in execution, if not in fact. They list about half > of all IPv4 space, and one might reasonably state that anyone using them > deserves their own self-inflicted SMTP intranet. > http://www.dnsbl.com/2007/08/apews-news-and-commentary-roundup.html > Andrew The link Andrew se

Re: BGP Failover Question

As Max stated, you can set triggers based on thresholds that are monitered via multiple methods in Cisco IOS. That way you could force the route down dynamically. There's always a risk when letting the machines do the thinking but this would help in situations like this. Can't speak for other vendo

Re: BGP Failover Question

We are recieving full routes from both providers. ---Chris On Feb 21, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Charles Gucker wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Chris Wallace > wrote: >> This isn't the first time we have seen this issue with our various >> providers, how can I prevent issues like this from ha

RE: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

> -Original Message- > From: Chris Grundemann [mailto:cgrundem...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:17 PM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: Owen DeLong; Benson Schliesser; NANOG list; ARIN-PPML List > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 > naysayer...) > > On

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 19:08, Dan Wing wrote: >> >>> Its title, filename, abstract, and introduction all say the problems >>> are specific to NAT444. Which is untrue. >> >>

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

[ arin cesspool removed from cc: as i can not post there anyway ] > There seems to be a position, taken by others on these lists, that > IPv6 is the only address family that matters. Interestingly, this > position seems to be most pronounced from people not involved in > operating production netw

Re: raw bgp traffic

Hope this helps http://packetlife.net/captures/category/routing-protocols/ Regards On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 17:58 -0800, Javier Godinez wrote: > Deal NANOG, > > Does anyone know where I can get real/raw BGP traffic, maybe in pcap > format? I just need maybe a few days of raw data for an inline >

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)

On Feb 21, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 19:08, Dan Wing wrote: > >> Its title, filename, abstract, and introduction all say the problems >> are specific to NAT444. Which is untrue. > > I just re-read the filename, abstract and introduction, and I disagr