Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Apr/15 15:05, Max Tulyev wrote: > One more interesting thing. > > If you buy IP transit, mostly you are paying by exact bandwidth, per > megabit. If you buy IX peering port, you are paying for port. This means > Tranist ports are overloaded or close to it, while IX ports usually > always ha

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Marco Davids
Doug Barton schreef op 18-04-15 om 01:52: > Harley is correct that 192.0.1/24 is mentioned in 1166, but AFAICS after > cursory examination it has fallen through the cracks since then. It has been seen in the wild a few times though (for whatever reason...) https://stat.ripe.net/192.0.1.0%2F24#ta

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Doug Barton
Harley is correct that 192.0.1/24 is mentioned in 1166, but AFAICS after cursory examination it has fallen through the cracks since then. (Note, this is not the same as 192.0.2/24, which has been updated in several RFCs recently, including 6303 by Mark Andrews (cc'ed for his information). I've

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Marco Davids wrote: > Marco Davids schreef op 17-04-15 om 23:08: > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6333 ? > > Oh wait, that's 192.0.0.0/29, not 192.0.1.0/24... 192.0.1.0/24 sounds vaguely like something really old HP JetDirects used as a "default IP"

AWS Contact

2015-04-17 Thread Blair Trosper
Weird issues with console and various service...can someone contact me off list?

BGP Update Report

2015-04-17 Thread cidr-report
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The Cidr Report

2015-04-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 17 21:14:32 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Marco Davids
Marco Davids schreef op 17-04-15 om 23:08: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6333 ? Oh wait, that's 192.0.0.0/29, not 192.0.1.0/24... -- Marco smime.p7s Description: S/MIME-cryptografische ondertekening

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Marco Davids
Wasn't (part) of this space assigned to RFC6333? Carrier Grade NAT and stuff... https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6333 ? -- Marco manning schreef op 17-04-15 om 22:45: > nothing that is authoritative (anymore)… 1996-2000 > > last century, 192.0.0.0/24 and 192.0.1.0/24 were identified as usable

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread manning
nothing that is authoritative (anymore)… 1996-2000 last century, 192.0.0.0/24 and 192.0.1.0/24 were identified as usable address blocks, post-CIDR testing/evaluation. they were both earmarked for use in the (then) four new root servers (which became J, K, L, and M)… they were then supposed to

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Harley H
It is mentioned in RFC 1166 as "BBN-TEST-C". I suppose it's still not publicly allocated. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > No one? > > http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-192-0-0-0-0/pft > > > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28692406-Outgoing-traffic-to-192.0.1.0-port-1000-

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Josh Luthman
No one? http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-192-0-0-0-0/pft http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28692406-Outgoing-traffic-to-192.0.1.0-port-1000- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Harley H wrote: > Does

Re: 192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Trent Farrell
Jump the slightest bit ahead in the library: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Harley H wrote: > Does anyone know the status of this netblock? I've come across a malware > sample configured to callback to an IP in that range but it does not appear > to be rout

192.0.1.0/24?

2015-04-17 Thread Harley H
Does anyone know the status of this netblock? I've come across a malware sample configured to callback to an IP in that range but it does not appear to be routable. Yet, it is not mentioned in RFC 5735 nor does it have any whois information. Thanks, Harley

Re: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Joe McLeod wrote: > Or you build the cable to fit the span. I must be getting old. There's a "best of both worlds" version of this: buy lots of the short-length cables (1 to 6 feet) and "cut down" longer cables where the distance exceeds the short cables I can bu

RE: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: "Bob Evans" > You must build them if you want the professional look. No way around that > - unless you want to take up rack space with some sort of cable management > wrapping system and that becomes a pain to make future changes or replace > cables. Re lacing is as much a pain (if you wa

Re: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > You must build them if you want the professional look. No way around that > - unless you want to take up rack space with some sort of cable management > wrapping system and that becomes a pain to make future changes or replace > cables. > >> Or

Re: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > Copper and fiber patch panels are key. This way you can control the length > from the patch to the device (router, switch,server). > Yeah, I am talking about just the runs in the rack - I don't see a(nother) patch panel helping here

Re: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Copper and fiber patch panels are key. This way you can control the length from the patch to the device (router, switch,server). Justin Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics ht

RE: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Bob Evans
You must build them if you want the professional look. No way around that - unless you want to take up rack space with some sort of cable management wrapping system and that becomes a pain to make future changes or replace cables. Thank You Bob Evans CTO > Or you build the cable to fit the spa

RE: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Joe McLeod
Or you build the cable to fit the span. I must be getting old. Joe -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Possamai Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 3:00 PM To: North American Network Operators Group Subject: Re: rack cable length Hi Shawn, If yo

Re: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Rafael Possamai
Hi Shawn, If you don't leave slack, you can't really pull the server out of the RU for maintenance (hot swaps, etc). Your best choice is to purchase cable management trays if that makes sense (Dell servers usually come with those). Otherwise you just need to deal with the loops and whatnot the be

RE: rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread Jameson, Daniel
Cables should be within 2 feet of the total distance, if you order a stack several sizes too long then add something like above/below the switch: http://www.chatsworth.com/products/cable-management/horizontal-cable-management/ Slack should never be stored in the vertical, only in the horizontal.

rack cable length

2015-04-17 Thread shawn wilson
This is probably a stupid question, but We've got a few racks in a colo. The racks don't have any decent cable management (square metal holes to attach velcro to). We either order cable too long and end up with lots of loops which get in the way (no place to loop lots of excess really) or too

Weekly Routing Table Report

2015-04-17 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For hi

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Peering and peering on an exchange are two different things. Peering at an exchange has several benefits other than the simple cost of transit. If you are in a large data center which charges fees for cross connects a single cross connect to an exchange can save you money. Peering can also be

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Max Tulyev
One more interesting thing. If you buy IP transit, mostly you are paying by exact bandwidth, per megabit. If you buy IX peering port, you are paying for port. This means Tranist ports are overloaded or close to it, while IX ports usually always have some extra free capacity. In practice, this mea

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
E, countering that if transit is cheaper than peering, you should talk to your IX. The effects of posting when I haven't been awake for hardy more than ten minutes - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mike

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Transit should cost more than peering and should never cost little more than the cost of a cross connect or a switch, given the load of additional responsibilities. I counter that if peering is cheaper than transit, you need to talk to your IX about it's cost models. - Mike Hammett In

Looking for core L3 switch for campus network; feedback on Juniper EX8208?

2015-04-17 Thread Israel G. Lugo
Hello, I'm thinking of buying a Juniper EX8208 to serve as the core L3 switch on an collapsed campus network (faculty, academia). Rough figures: around 6,000 eyeballs, up to around 10,000 MACs, spread over some 30 buildings of varying size. OM2/OM3 fiber from the buildings to the core, using 1Gb

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Apr/15 17:10, Edward Dore wrote: > > I don't have any quantifiable data on what has happened to IP transit > costs over the same period, but for a point comparison I'd say that > off the top of my head you can get a 1G CDR on a 10G port from a > tier-1 provider in London for approximately t

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Max Tulyev
For sure, that's the main reason of peering, not a cost saving ;) On 04/15/15 23:12, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > Please keep in mind that some companies peer despite it offers no > savings for them and at the end of the day it might be even more > expensive. They do it because of performance and re

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-04-17 Thread Max Tulyev
If you have so much difference in price of IX connectivity (in general, including cabling, DWDM to one of major IX, colo, etc) - this only mean you should have a long talk with your current IP transit sales. Or just change it to another one. On 04/15/15 21:45, Mike Hammett wrote: > (Reply to threa