Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 02:32:33PM -0700, Ca By wrote: Yes, move your business to TWC. TWC has a proven v6 deployment and is actively engaged in the community, as where vz Fios is not. Business only understand $ Yah, cheap bastards :). I've got 50/50 fios right now; TWC can match the

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 05:35:35PM -0400, John Peach wrote: and I wouldn't hold my breath over IPv6; I have to run stunnel so I can send email from home because they don't even use TLS. Having Hmm, I just recently set up my mail client to use Verizon's smtp servers, and TLS seemed to work

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 01:31:54AM +, Mel Beckman wrote: Just set up the tunnel. It works beautifully. Yeah, I probably will. Shouldn't expose my bluff, but I probably won't switch to business cable, I actually use my upstream 8-/. But I needed to get in one last rant before I went that

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Ca By
On Sunday, July 12, 2015, Paul B. Henson hen...@acm.org wrote: I think it's been about a year and a half since I last looked (and cried) at the status of FIOS IPv6. As far as I can tell, there's been no new official news since 2013. We're deploying IPv6 at the university I work at, so IPv6 at

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast?

2015-07-12 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
No idea about the final target ... I heard so much wrong information in the past 3 days ... Level3 didn't investigate in my packet loss report because there was another incident ongoing and so they thought my report was related to this issue. Even when I updated them AFTER they reported solved

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
On 7/12/15 11:31 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:15:20 -0400, Mike O'Connor said: :Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient :versions of NTP. I suggest you get accustomed to being stunned. He obviously didn't see my post a few weeks back

AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast?

2015-07-12 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
One the DDoS targets was PCCW and their ports were congested ... this was the official explanation we got. Lots of discussion starts from here Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH Telefon: +43-5-0556-300 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500 E-Mail:

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:15:20 -0400, Mike O'Connor said: :Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient :versions of NTP. I suggest you get accustomed to being stunned. He obviously didn't see my post a few weeks back about hosts that were looking for an NTP server that

another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Paul B. Henson
I think it's been about a year and a half since I last looked (and cried) at the status of FIOS IPv6. As far as I can tell, there's been no new official news since 2013. We're deploying IPv6 at the university I work at, so IPv6 at home is moving from wish I had it to play with towards need to have

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread John Peach
The only reason I have FIOS is because they gave me a 2 year deal of 15/15 internet for $30/month. Their advertising is basically just lies and I wouldn't hold my breath over IPv6; I have to run stunnel so I can send email from home because they don't even use TLS. Having said that, I have an

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast?

2015-07-12 Thread Yang Yu
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Jürgen Jaritsch j...@anexia.at wrote: One the DDoS targets was PCCW and their ports were congested ... this was the official explanation we got. Lots of discussion starts from here Can it be somehow related to the DDoS on Telegram (AS62041, AS59930)?

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Paul B. Henson wrote: I think it's been about a year and a half since I last looked (and cried) at the status of FIOS IPv6. As far as I can tell, there's been no new official news since 2013. We're deploying IPv6 at the university I work at, so IPv6 at home is moving from

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Tore Anderson
* Julien Goodwin Juniper have recently (15.1, still not out for all platforms) rebased JunOS on a slightly less ancient FreeBSD release, and nothing I have in my lab has it released yet, and I can't be bothered to go spelunking in the install image for what version of NTP it's running.

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 03:23:58PM -0700, Harlan Stenn wrote: On 7/12/15 11:31 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:15:20 -0400, Mike O'Connor said: :Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient :versions of NTP. I suggest you get accustomed

Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill

2015-07-12 Thread Mel Beckman
Just set up the tunnel. It works beautifully. And thank you, HE.net, for being such a stellar tech leader! -mel On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Paul B. Henson hen...@acm.org wrote: I think it's been about a year and a half since I last looked (and cried) at the status of FIOS IPv6. As far

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Alistair Mackenzie
I’m currently running a scan of the internet and querying NTP versions. I’ll publish the results of it on Github and mail them in here :) On 12/07/2015 15:15, NANOG on behalf of Mike O'Connor nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of m...@dojo.mi.org wrote: :Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Mike O'Connor
:Thanks, and I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient :versions of NTP. I suggest you get accustomed to being stunned. :https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline : :4.2.0 was EOL'd in June of 2006, and we've fixed about 3,000 issues in :the codebase since then. 4.2.0

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Mark Milhollan
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Harlan Stenn wrote: I'm kinda stunned that folks are running such ancient versions of NTP. This is not surprising at all, nor should you be surprised to find xntp3 still in use because of the even older software on decrepit but still functional hardware. I.e., in addition

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Bacon Zombie
Are you using Nmap or masscan? Also I'd be interested in what switches and settings you are using. On 12 Jul 2015 16:26, Alistair Mackenzie magics...@gmail.com wrote: I’m currently running a scan of the internet and querying NTP versions. I’ll publish the results of it on Github and mail them

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:16:14AM -0700, Ca By wrote: On Sunday, July 12, 2015, Alistair Mackenzie magics...@gmail.com wrote: I’m currently running a scan of the internet and querying NTP versions. I’ll publish the results of it on Github and mail them in here :) Please don't.

Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast?

2015-07-12 Thread Donn Lasher
While I can¹t say with any degree of certainty it's related, it¹s somewhat coincidental that one of one of their west coast customers (Daybreak Games / SOE) has been under a fairly hefty DDoS since mid-week. From what I recall see Daybreak/SOE only uses Level3. (Lots to talk about in that case..

Re: NTP versions in production use?

2015-07-12 Thread Ca By
On Sunday, July 12, 2015, Alistair Mackenzie magics...@gmail.com wrote: I’m currently running a scan of the internet and querying NTP versions. I’ll publish the results of it on Github and mail them in here :) Please don't. Please see http://openntpproject.org/ On 12/07/2015 15:15,