Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:43:45 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > And before you ask, I get "important news" directly. I'm glad to hear you're someplace on the planet where covid-19 doesn't count as important news. Hopefully the news will arrive to you directly before the virus does. pgp1W4vwcfEXk.p

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If you intend to fully self host something, the full mediawiki software that runs the back end of wikipedia is suitable. It's entirely composed of BSD/GPL/Apache licensed software. If you have any persons who are competent at administering and customizing stuff on normal LAMP stack servers it shoul

GTT Contact

2020-03-17 Thread Brandon Wade via NANOG
We're facing an issue we've been trying to resolve with GTT, but are unable to get them to respond beyond opening a ticket regarding this issue. What is going on is GTT has two maintenance windows, the first tonight with the backup window tomorrow night. Our issue is our other carrier is also pe

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-17 Thread Steve Saner
On 3/17/20 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: Then comes the task of getting the legacy wiki pages off the Mac wiki server over to the new wiki Oh, man. If you figure that one out, let me know. I'm in the same boat there. Steve -- -

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-17 Thread Craig
Greatly appreciate all these suggestions, we are going to test several of these packages out and determine which will be best for us. Thanks! Then comes the task of getting the legacy wiki pages off the Mac wiki server over to the new wiki Argg More figuring out to do. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-17 Thread Billy Crook
We're a new group and at recommendation of this thread, I set up dokuwiki for us and I like it already! On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:54 PM Jens Link wrote: > > Craig writes: > > > Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are using to save documentation to / > > how to's for staff, etc. > > On the wi

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/17/20 11:35 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: But I dont expect me to go to my desk any time since now in one month to press the button on the phone to set the voicemail active. My office had problems with multiple workstations needing someone to kick them. My team had someone volunteer to g

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 3/17/20 11:35 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: But I dont expect me to go to my desk any time since now in one month to press the button on the phone to set the voicemail active. My office had problems with multiple workstations needing someone to kick them. My team had someone volunteer to g

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:35:59AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > Anything in the healthcare vertical that is outside of the medical > providers control/ownership is a result of the medical provider > buying into that model on some level. STOP DOING THAT. (How am I > suddenly reminded of the old adag

Fwd: [arin-announce] ARIN 45 Moving to Virtual Meeting Format

2020-03-17 Thread John Curran
FYI - ARIN 45 will be done via remote participation only. /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers Begin forwarded message: From: ARIN mailto:i...@arin.net>> Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN 45 Moving to Virtual Meeting Format Date: 17 March 2020 at 5:03:09 PM EDT

Re: Need help removing a old/outdated/incorrect proxy route object

2020-03-17 Thread Sadiq Saif
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020, at 16:18, Job Snijders wrote: > I can help! Will follow-up off list. > > For future reference: db-ad...@rr.ntt.net is also a good place to > direct any questions about NTT's IRR service "NTTCOM" > > Kind regards, Thank you, Dan Paxton from the NTT NOC reached out off-list w

Re: Need help removing a old/outdated/incorrect proxy route object

2020-03-17 Thread Job Snijders
I can help! Will follow-up off list. For future reference: db-ad...@rr.ntt.net is also a good place to direct any questions about NTT's IRR service "NTTCOM" Kind regards, Job On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, at 20:54, Sadiq Saif wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking for help with removal of a old/outdated/i

Need help removing a old/outdated/incorrect proxy route object

2020-03-17 Thread Sadiq Saif
Hi all, I am looking for help with removal of a old/outdated/incorrect proxy route object for one of my prefixes, 192.195.251.0/24. The object in question: route: 192.195.251.0/24 descr: Proxy-registered route object origin: AS135091 remarks:This is a HGC customer route-object

DDoS Attacks targeting VPN/IPSEC endpoints

2020-03-17 Thread Dennis B
Any one else seeing this? Hearing some isolated events across different industry segments. If you are, can you provide any TTPs?

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread bzs
I remember an anecdote during 9/11 about a fuel truck being stopped, I think the line was Houston St, someone found an empty fuel truck on the other side and convinced the natl guard or whoever it was to let them transfer the diesel from one truck to the other across the line and get the fuel whe

Re: AT&T is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-17 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, at 19:38, Dan White wrote: > By "ahead of us", I'm hoping to glean some operational experience from > European, or networks in larger cities with a more impactful lock > down. It is all fairly new here too. Some of the things that have come to mind so far: - the supply chain

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Join an IX your provider is on? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Bolitho" To: "Tom Beecher" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:03:46 PM Subject: Re: COVID-19 vs. our

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Dan White
On 03/17/20 14:38 -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:38:28AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: Anybody who works in the healthcare vertical will tell you just how bad medical devices are to work with from an IT perspective. Medical devices are appallingly bad to work with from an

Re: WIKI documentation Software?

2020-03-17 Thread Jens Link
Craig writes: > Wanted to ask what WIKI software teams are using to save documentation to / > how to's for staff, etc.  On the wiki side: +1 for dokuwiki Given that more and more people are automating stuff and this way ending up git anyway: Write your doku as markdown, put it into git, gener

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:43 , Keith Medcalf wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 17 March, 2020 03:31, Mark Tinka wrote: > >> On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: > >>> For up to date local information, check with the local public health >>> authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will usual

Re: AT&T is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-17 Thread Dan White
On 03/17/20 19:25 +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: Le 17/03/2020 à 19:17, Dan White a écrit : Things have been eerily quiet where we are (Oklahoma). We're an eyeball network and have had no noticeable changes in bandwidth usage that couldn't be explained by statistical noise. We keep game pl

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:38:28AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: > Anybody who works in the healthcare vertical will tell you just how > bad medical devices are to work with from an IT perspective. Medical devices are appallingly bad to work with from an IT perspective. They're designed and built to

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Tuesday, 17 March, 2020 11:04, Mike Bolitho wrote: >>The answer is don't shove application traffic that has tight service >>level requirements onto the public internet at large and expect the same >>performance as private circuits or other SLA protected services. >I keep seeing this over an

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:03 , Mike Bolitho wrote: > > >The answer is don't shove application traffic that has tight service level > >requirements onto the public internet at large and expect the same > >performance as private circuits or other SLA protected services. > > I keep seeing this o

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 17/03/2020 à 19:26, Owen DeLong a écrit : On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:41 , Alexandre Petrescu mailto:alexandre.petre...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: This simply isn’t true… Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who specialize in infecti

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Emille Blanc
> Why should there be a license server at all? Why should an X-ray machine have > an external dependency like that in the first place, even if it’s a local > server? In a world where you can license device performance by the megabit/sec/day, or even have to purchase per-use factory reset keys s

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Shane Ronan
Because the hospitals don't own the machines and the companies that do, charge the hospital per x-ray. The hospitals moved to this model to reduce their costs during "quiet" periods. And by doing so, put their patients in jeopardy. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 2:07 PM Owen DeLong wrote: > > > > On Mar

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:41 , Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > > >> On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >>> This simply isn’t true… >>> >>> Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who >>> specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology. > > YEs listen to them. >

Re: AT&T is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 17/03/2020 à 19:17, Dan White a écrit : Things have been eerily quiet where we are (Oklahoma). We're an eyeball network and have had no noticeable changes in bandwidth usage that couldn't be explained by statistical noise. We keep game planning more and more contingency scenarios, waiting

Re: AT&T is suspending broadband data caps for home internet customers due to coronavirus

2020-03-17 Thread Dan White
Things have been eerily quiet where we are (Oklahoma). We're an eyeball network and have had no noticeable changes in bandwidth usage that couldn't be explained by statistical noise. We keep game planning more and more contingency scenarios, waiting to jump when needed, but things have just been

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 02:20 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 16/Mar/20 16:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: > >> I recently had to reschedule an X-ray because the license manager for the >> X-ray machine was acting up. I don’t think people have a grasp for how much >> of the medical infrastructur

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 17/03/2020 à 18:43, Keith Medcalf a écrit : On Tuesday, 17 March, 2020 03:31, Mark Tinka wrote: On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: For up to date local information, check with the local public health authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will usually be your county public h

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mike Bolitho
>You're facing essentially the same issue as many in non-healthcare do ; how to best talk to applications in Magic Cloud Land. Reaching the major cloud providers does not require DIA ; they all have presences on the major IXes, and direct peering could be an option too depending on your needs and t

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Tuesday, 17 March, 2020 03:31, Mark Tinka wrote: >On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: >> For up to date local information, check with the local public health >> authority in your jurisdiction. In the US, that will usually >> be your county public health agency. In some cases, individual

Re: Quagga for production?

2020-03-17 Thread Jens Link
Dmitry Sherman writes: > Hello, > > Anybody working with Quagga for production peering with multiple peers > and dynamic eBGP/iBGP announcement? https://frrouting.org/ is a quagga fork and most (all) developers of quagga mode to frr. Jens, using frr for quite some time now without any problems

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
At my work place there is enough generators, fuel generators. There is enough time to power things down properly. The IT infra seems to be working ok, although some remote workers complain about a few things about VPN. There is however worry that the IT infra might not keep up, or that not a

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Tom Beecher
You're facing essentially the same issue as many in non-healthcare do ; how to best talk to applications in Magic Cloud Land. Reaching the major cloud providers does not require DIA ; they all have presences on the major IXes, and direct peering could be an option too depending on your needs and tr

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:21 PM Hiers, David wrote: > > Good reminder to test, test, test... Indeed -- and we had tested, multiple times. Unfortunately, the only realistic way we would have found this would have been to kill power to the building and run on generators for many hours, and then, li

Power outage LA 600 W 7th - TELX

2020-03-17 Thread A. Pishdadi
Greetings, We got an email last night after some alerts from monitoring system. Power on the B UPS feed has been offline till this second and going. Apparently they can not bypass UPS and put the load on the generator. Which is crazy in itself being that it's a data center.. Luckily we have eve

RE: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Hiers, David
Good reminder to test, test, test... -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Warren Kumari Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:08 AM To: Paul Nash Cc: Untitled 3 Subject: Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Pau

RE: Quagga for production?

2020-03-17 Thread Hiers, David
Quagga is built into one of our core products, works great. That particular vendor a sponsor of frr, and is replacing quagga with frr soon. Maybe look at the vendor/partner list for quagga and frr, and decide which project has better long-term prospects. David From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul Nash wrote: > > September 2001. Just after the 9/11 attacks, all of lower Manhattan was shut > down. Out link (IIRC) was to a satellite farm on Staten island, across the > bay to 60 Hudson. Power went off, diesels kicked in, fuel trucks was not > allowed

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mike Bolitho
>The answer is don't shove application traffic that has tight service level requirements onto the public internet at large and expect the same performance as private circuits or other SLA protected services. I keep seeing this over and over again in this long thread. What's your suggestion? How do

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Tom Beecher
The answer is don't shove application traffic that has tight service level requirements onto the public internet at large and expect the same performance as private circuits or other SLA protected services. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:40 AM Mike Bolitho wrote: > If an x-ray machine won't work b

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Paul Nash
September 2001. Just after the 9/11 attacks, all of lower Manhattan was shut down. Out link (IIRC) was to a satellite farm on Staten island, across the bay to 60 Hudson. Power went off, diesels kicked in, fuel trucks was not allowed in, and a few days later we lost all international connectiv

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Keefe John
WISPA has the letters available in the Members Section of the website. Keefe John CEO Ethoplex Direct: 262.345.5200 Ethoplex Business Internet http://www.ethoplex.com/ Signal Residential Internet http://www.signalisp.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/keefejohn/ On Tue, Mar 1

Re: UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 18:05, Ca By wrote: > > > > +1 , still see, still have policers > > Fyi, ipv6 ntp / udp tends to have a much higher success rate getting > through cgn / policers / ... For those that have come in as attacks toward customers, we've "scrubbed" them where there has been interest. Mar

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 17:38, Mike Bolitho wrote: > > Totally agree with you. Unfortunately it's not a problem with the > medical providers, it's a problem with the medical devices. Anybody > who works in the healthcare vertical will tell you just how bad > medical devices are to work with from an IT pers

Re: UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-17 Thread Ca By
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:03 AM Compton, Rich A wrote: > Yes, we still see lots of UDP amplification attacks using NTP monlist. We > use a filter to block UDP src 123 packets of 468 bytes in length (monlist > reply with the max 6 IPs). > > -Rich +1 , still see, still have policers Fyi, ipv6 n

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-03-17, at 12:36, Mark Tinka wrote: > > While that does improve availability and performance, I don't > think it really pushes the Internet beyond the realm of "best-effort”. Folks, my supermarket is “best-effort”. I expect exactly the same level of service from my Internet that I expec

Re: UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-17 Thread Compton, Rich A
Yes, we still see lots of UDP amplification attacks using NTP monlist. We use a filter to block UDP src 123 packets of 468 bytes in length (monlist reply with the max 6 IPs). -Rich On 3/17/20, 8:55 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Jared Mauch" wrote: I’m curious what people are seeing these days

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mike Bolitho
> > If an x-ray machine won't work because the Internet is down, I'm not sure > that is responsible. As inefficient as it may be to have a license server > on-prem if there is an option to check against one in the public cloud, > for a medical use-case, that would make more sense to me. Totally a

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Matt Hoppes
Does anyone know who to contact at DHS to see about getting a letter like this for an operator?  On some other mailing lists, FCC licensed operators are reporting they have received letters from the Department of Homeland Security authorizing "access" and "fuel" priority. Occasionally, DHS

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 17:15, Paul Nash wrote: > That same fuel shortage killed all Internet traffic to sub-Saharan Africa. > Took us a while to figure out what was wrong with the satellite link to the > US. What year was that :-)? Mark.

Re: DHS letters for fuel and facility access

2020-03-17 Thread Paul Nash
That same fuel shortage killed all Internet traffic to sub-Saharan Africa. Took us a while to figure out what was wrong with the satellite link to the US. paul > On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Ben Cannon wrote: > > We (Verizon not me) lost a central office during 9/11 because it ran out

Re: UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 16:53, Jared Mauch wrote: > Should we be looking to remove these, similar to how we did for SQL/Slammer > after a time? FWIW, we've never policed udp/123 on our end. We haven't seen anything untoward. Mark.

UDP/123 policers & status

2020-03-17 Thread Jared Mauch
I’m curious what people are seeing these days on the UDP/123 policers in their networks. I know while I was at NTT we rolled some out, and there are a number of variants that have occurred over the past 6-7 years. I’ve heard from people at the NTP Pool as well as having observed some issues wi

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 17/03/2020 à 13:26, Grzegorz Janoszka a écrit : On 2020-03-16 15:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others. There is a good word for information filtering. It is called 'censorship'.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2020-03-16 15:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others. There is a good word for information filtering. It is called 'censorship'. Times like now are perfect opportunity to limit the rem

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 12:37, Christian wrote: > In theory best-effort Internet is seen as only part of a broader > Internet model including open peering and so on. The idea for open > Internet is it offers a form of digital herd immunity (to coin a > current phrase being misused by UK Government circles

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Christian
On 17/03/2020 09:17, Mark Tinka wrote: On 16/Mar/20 16:40, Mike Bolitho wrote: I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say here. We have dual private lines from two Tier I providers. These interconnect all major hospitals and our data centers. We also have a third

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
my close in Texas sent me "Texas is Bigger than France" magnet, it's on my fridge :-) Le 17/03/2020 à 00:36, Scott Weeks a écrit : --- alexandre.petre...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandre Petrescu That map does not show Texas, as far as I know America (USA) geography.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: This simply isn’t true… Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology. YEs listen to them. This morning they say: everyone can get it, there is no age or pre-conditio. That''s it. 

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: > > This simply isn’t true… > > Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who > specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology. > > The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains the primary source > of trustworthy information. I

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: > I recently had to reschedule an X-ray because the license manager for the > X-ray machine was acting up. I don’t think people have a grasp for how much > of the medical infrastructure no longer works when the Internet is down. I get this, to some

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:40, Mike Bolitho wrote: > I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say > here. We have dual private lines from two Tier I providers. These > interconnect all major hospitals and our data centers. We also have a > third metro connection that connects thing