Re: Zayo woes

2023-09-20 Thread Richard Holbo
Laughing out Loud, really, good views all... Having been through this a few times.. and being one of those who is now the one of the hated C level guys.. Much truth is spoken here. EBITA and size are the issues IMHO in our current system. Having been the owner of a few "smallish" retail ISPs in

HCX MTU

2023-09-20 Thread David Ratkay
Anybody work with VMWare HCX having weird MTU issues? Can provide more info but just curious

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Drikus Brits
from a commercial perspective, we've been using Radiator for the last ~7 yearsbeen working really well, super flexible in terms of user group permissions, authorized commands etc + the upside for us was logging auth logs to SQL, both authentication and authorization logsit's primarily

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jim wrote: > > Router operating systems still typically use only passwords with > SSH, then those devices send the passwords over that insecure channel. I > have yet to > see much in terms of routers capable to Tacacs+ Authorize users based on > users' >

8830 Complex Drive Datacenter in San Diego - Anyone Else Affected

2023-09-20 Thread Norman Jester
Several carriers went down around 7am this morning, all tied to a datacenter in San Diego that has apparently shut down. Sad to see that place go, good guys ran it but there are several carriers that bit the bullet on us today due to that place closing down. Seems every one of them is grasping to

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Douglas Hirata de Moura
Hi Bryan, https://tacacsgui.com/ it might be a good fit for you. Em qua., 20 de set. de 2023 às 12:10, Bryan Holloway escreveu: > Ah, the good old days when I could download the latest tac_plus code > from the Cisco FTP site, compile it, and off I go. > > But I digress. > > Curious if there

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:22 AM, Jim wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 11:16 AM Mike Lewinski via NANOG > wrote: > >> > https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/ >> That tac_plus has python 2 dependencies and so has been removed from >> Debian packages. That's not surprising given the last update was

Web traffic routing

2023-09-20 Thread Sami Joseph
Hi, There's an online service that does fraud detection by forwarding web traffic to their platform before sending it to its destination. They claim they do it by one of two methods: 1) Traffic is routed to our Cloud via DNS for dynamic async or sync processing before being proxied to the

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Jim
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 11:16 AM Mike Lewinski via NANOG wrote: > > https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/ > That tac_plus has python 2 dependencies and so has been removed from > Debian packages. That's not surprising given the last update was 2015 and > Python 2 was EOL in 2020:

Re: Zayo woes

2023-09-20 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 12:21 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Well sure, and I would like to think (probably mistakenly) that just no > one important enough (to the money people) made the money people that these > other things are *REQUIRED* to make the deal work. > > Obviously, people lower on the

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

2023-09-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 19:06, Chris Boyd wrote: > We run Teams Telephony in $DAYJOB, and it does use SILK. > > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/platform/bots/calls-and-meetings/real-time-media-concepts Looks like codecs still are rapidly evolving in walled gardens. I just

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Mike Lewinski via NANOG
> https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/  That tac_plus has python 2 dependencies and so has been removed from Debian packages. That's not surprising given the last update was 2015 and Python 2 was EOL in 2020: https://www.python.org/doc/sunset-python-2/ Currently I favor this one which is still

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

2023-09-20 Thread Chris Boyd
> On Sep 20, 2023, at 2:46 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > skype uses Silk > (maybe teams too?). We run Teams Telephony in $DAYJOB, and it does use SILK. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/platform/bots/calls-and-meetings/real-time-media-concepts

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:09 AM, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Ah, the good old days when I could download the latest tac_plus code from > the Cisco FTP site, compile it, and off I go. > You might be thinking of the Shrubbery one — https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/ There are newer, fancier, etc

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Jeff Moore
We have also used https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/ for some time as well. Great product! JM On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:15 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 9/20/23 17:09, Bryan Holloway wrote: > > > Ah, the good old days when I could download the latest tac_plus code > > from the Cisco FTP

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/20/23 17:39, Jeff Moore wrote: We have also used https://www.shrubbery.net/tac_plus/ for some time as well. Great product! Yes, that's one of the ones in the FreeBSD ports. Works very well. Mark.

Re: TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/20/23 17:09, Bryan Holloway wrote: Ah, the good old days when I could download the latest tac_plus code from the Cisco FTP site, compile it, and off I go. But I digress. Curious if there are any operators out there that have a good recommendation on a lightweight TACACS+ server for

TACACS+ server recommendations?

2023-09-20 Thread Bryan Holloway
Ah, the good old days when I could download the latest tac_plus code from the Cisco FTP site, compile it, and off I go. But I digress. Curious if there are any operators out there that have a good recommendation on a lightweight TACACS+ server for ~200 NEs and access-control for 20-30 folks.

RE: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

2023-09-20 Thread Howard, Lee
I think it all goes back to the earliest MOS tests ("Hold up the number of fingers for how good the sound is") and every once in a while somebody actually does some testing to look for correlations. Thought it's 15 years old, I like this thesis for the writer's reporting:

Re: Zayo woes

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/19/23 18:05, Mike Hammett wrote: Some of it is scale-related. Someone's operating just fine at the size they are, but the next order of magnitude larger enjoys many benefits from that size, but it takes either A) luck or B) the right skills to be able to move up to get those benefits.

Re: Zayo woes

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/19/23 17:54, Mike Hammett wrote: Well sure, and I would like to think (probably mistakenly) that just no one important enough (to the money people) made the money people that these other things are *REQUIRED* to make the deal work. Obviously, people lower on the ladder say it all of

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

2023-09-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 03:15, Dave Taht wrote: > I go back many, many years as to baseline numbers for managing voip networks, > including things like CISCO LLQ, diffserv, fqm prioritizing vlans, and running > voip networks entirely separately... I worked on codecs, such as oslec, and > early