Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com wrote: Hello, We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment - learning/labbing/experimenting/etc. We've got to the point when we're also planning to request initial ipv6 allocation from ARIN. So I wonder what

Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote: I said somewhere in here... wierd quoting happened. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com wrote: Hello, We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -

Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote: I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer ports enabled. I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be presenting

Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: rant Just an observation, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one who feels that those with rather high budgets tend to forget that not everyone has the luxury of a virtual blank check. /rant awesome, take an old

Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Michael Ulitskiy mulits...@acedsl.com wrote: So my question still stands: is anyone aware of a reasonable tunneled ipv6 transit service (I mean aside from HE tunnel broker)? The load will be really light. I don't expect we'll break a few Mbit/s in the nearest

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 21/05/2010 13:16, Lorell Hathcock wrote: each other.  Just make sure your boxes have enough RAM to cope with a full dfz feed. note that you do NOT have to have a full feed on either location, if your goal is simply

Re: txt.att.net operators

2010-05-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Mike Walter mwal...@3z.net wrote: We have been struggling to locate someone at ATT that handles the txt.att.net servers.  We have clients in our data center that can no longer send emails to mobile phones via 10di...@txt.att.net.  We have contacted ATT and

Re: FIOS Router

2010-05-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Chris Burwell cburw...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure how they got the 100Mb service. The fastest service I have seen on the FiOS website is the 50/20. I can only assume that it varies by region. It does, or it used to... rumors were DFW was a good

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Todd Underwood toddun...@gmail.com wrote: jon, all, i've received several questions about the context of this mail, so i thought it would be worth posting to clear up the reference. for those who missed it, i presented a lightning talk at nanog 49 in san

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Lee Howard l...@asgard.org wrote: P.S. At this point, the IPv6 transition has failed, unlike the Y2K transition, and For certain values of fail.  The odds of a dual-stack transition as initially envisioned by the IETF are vanishingly small, but IPv6 will be a

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Michael Dillon wavetos...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't think we'll have (nor would we have in 2005 even) gotten an ipv7/8/9/10 up and spec'd/coded/wrung-out before ~2 yrs from now either. So, given the cards we have, ipv6 isn't all bad. On this we agree.

Re: no you can't configure your router w/ this

2010-06-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote: On Jun 22, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Adam LaFountain wrote: sigh... where was this useful data 10 years ago! http://www.fcc.gov/worldtravel/ Even more entertaining is the reboot.fcc.gov (Beta) Bah, more like Alpha if you

Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped? I'm fairly certain JayB at least reads nanog... the OP didn't mention if this was 7018, 7132 or the ATT_ENS AS with the route though :( -Original

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jonathan Feldman j...@feldman.org wrote: I'm one of the reporters who covers broadband and cloud computing for InformationWeek magazine (www.informationweek.com), and it's interesting to me that one of the issues with cloud adoption has to do with the limited

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
-maven so who knows :) -Chris I appreciate everyone's response! On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jonathan Feldman j...@feldman.org wrote: I'm one of the reporters who covers broadband and cloud computing for InformationWeek magazine

Re: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Uri Joskovitch uri.joskovi...@telrad.com wrote: URGENT !!! I got into trouble with this product, any one has its user manual? Installation guide? , Other documentation? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Huawei+PTN+910+documentation see like the 5th link down? Thanks

Re: Huawei PTN 910

2010-06-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jeff Harper jhar...@first-american.net wrote: Lol, you must have way too much time on your hands to make that. ;) I actually couldn't easily think of a quicker way to get the 'see the searchy thingy can find it for you, look at that pdf linked there' :(

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Oscar Ricardo Silva osi...@scuff.cc.utexas.edu wrote: On 07/02/2010 01:46 PM, Crist Clark wrote: We got a strange and out of the blue inquiry from someone wishing to pay us for a chunk of our ARIN allocation, Hello, According to Whois data, you company owns

Re: PCH.net down?

2010-07-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Allen Bass allen_b...@comcast.net wrote: I received the same message from http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/pch.net but if I go to the site directly from Miami it pulls up, but is slow to do everyone should take careful note... downforeveryoneorjustme.com

Re: vpn exchange point

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
coughequinix ethernet exchange/cough On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote: On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:59 PM, William McCall wrote: OP is referencing MPLS/BGP VPNs, not like IPsec VPNs. And I'm not sure

Re: PCH.net down?

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Simon Horman ho...@verge.net.au wrote: Thats quite a revelation. I assumed it tested from all points of the internet other than mine :^) I suspect it simple does an equivalent of 'wget' of the hostname you enter... the appengine api doesn't really permit much

Re: vpn exchange point

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Michael Dillon wavetos...@googlemail.com wrote: Do you know of any vpn exchange point implementations please? -I mean something like IXP but for mpls vpns Let's say I'm an ISP that bought or merged with many small ISPs each with it's own AS# and would like

Re: IPv4 Exhaustion...

2010-07-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Rough translation: LSN + CALEA = Very Interesting Times for ISPs that deploy LSN and are subject to CALEA. why wouldn't you just do the intercept before the LSN? (also, calea and it's ilk knew this was coming, 'your failure

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
isn't ipv3@gmail.com jim fleming? http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg04279.html (for reference) pls to not be replying to the list when ipv3.com posts to nanog.. -Chris On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-24

Re: IPv4 Exhaustion...

2010-07-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:28 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:40:58 EDT, Christopher Morrow said: why wouldn't you just do the intercept before the LSN? That gets interesting too, when several tens of thousands of users may all be behind the same LSN.  Making sure

Re: Question of privacy with reassigned resources

2010-08-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM, todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net wrote:  On 8/3/2010 4:07 PM, ML wrote: As an SP in the MDU (multi dwelling unit) market we dutifully SWIP netblocks for each apartment complex/condo/etc.  Doing such we publically publish the physical address an IP lives (sans

Re: Proxy Server

2010-08-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
squid? On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Joshua William Klubi joshua.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there any one with an idea of an open source packeteer or bandwidth management solution like Allot NetEnforcer Bandwidth Management Appliance. Which can do proxy services and also allocate

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Dorian Kim dor...@blackrose.org wrote: Was Mike O'Dell's famous doubling every 100 days just a myth? Like any good tale, there most likely was an element of truth behind it. I think, from another list about 2 yrs ago, the person responsible for this data inside

Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster

2010-08-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: The devil is always in the details. The Network management piece is quite glossed over and gives a different perception in the summary. You can't perform the proposed network management piece without deep packet inspection which

Re: (cisco, or any) acl *reducers* out there?

2010-08-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:38 AM, George Michaelson wrote: (we've got the usual acquisition of rule by accretion problem across 4 edge/core routers with a mix of public facing, internal, WiFi, guest rules, and I hate to

Re: (cisco, or any) acl *reducers* out there?

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Cat Okita c...@reptiles.org wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, George Michaelson wrote: I have been looking at acl management s/w in the freecode space and I can find lots of tools which manage/distribute and test ACLs in routers. I'm wondering if anyone has

Re: (cisco, or any) acl *reducers* out there?

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Cat Okita c...@reptiles.org wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Christopher Morrow wrote: this paper, while full of math and graphs and sh*t, doesn't make my acl management simpler, clearer or more complete... I keep trying to push my acls through the paper, no joy

Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on 6...@ietf about whether or not v6 routers should: o be required to implement ip redirect functions (icmpv6 redirect) o be sending these by default Essentially 12+ years ago in RFC2461 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2461.txt) and

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
originally? :) -chris Owen Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Christopher Morrow christopher.mor...@gmail.com wrote: Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on 6...@ietf about whether or not v6 routers should:  o be required to implement ip redirect

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 13:20 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on 6...@ietf about whether or not v6 routers

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Jack Bates wrote: Why should the ietf dictate a default on this? Because that's what the IETF does, sets a SHOULD on best common practice after discussion in the community. Requiring

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
I appreciate the discussion.. Eric, are you reflecting messages back to the list without additional content for a reason? list-admin folks, could we ping eric and see what's busted? On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Eric J. Katanich e...@onyxlight.net wrote: On 08/21/2010 02:08 AM, Brandon Ross

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Christopher Morrow christopher.mor...@gmail.com wrote: Polling a little bit here, there's an active discussion going on 6...@ietf about whether or not v6 routers should:  o be required

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Mike Gatti ekim.it...@gmail.com wrote: where's the change management process in all of this. basically now we are going to starting changing things that can potentially have an adverse affect on users without letting anyone know before hand Interesting

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: * Christopher Morrow: (you are asking your vendors to run full bit sweeps of each protocol in a regimented manner checking for all possible edge cases and properly handling them, right?) The real issue is that both

Re: largest OSPF core

2010-09-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 03:20:05PM +0300, lorddoskias wrote:  I'm just curious - what is the largest OSPF core (in terms of number of routers) out there? I'll admit to having seen a network with over

Re: verizon outage

2010-09-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:51 PM, James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote:  anyone experiencing issues with verizon in western mass? o this isn't the outages list, that one MAY have more info for you o there are many verizons... which one are you talking about? (wireless, dsl/fios, fUUNET,

Re: IPv6 Glue Records at Dotster / Domain.com

2010-09-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Ryan Shea ryans...@google.com wrote: Righto, perhaps it's not kooky.  Despite the admittedly small demand, it just seems such a trivial feature to have to jump through administrative hoops of swapping registrars for. I'll do what I need to do, but of course if

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: We see this all the time, usually it involves either a /20 or multiple-/xx that change every month. If they want frequently changing IPs, it's almost certainly for spamming. I got the

Re: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Christopher Morrow wrote: I used to have some quick/dirty instructions for how to verify that the traffic was in fact proxy traffic, something like: 1) log traffic from the soon-to-be-ex-customer (acl logs

Reverse traceroute and spoofing of sources of packets?

2010-09-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
I missed this meeting/preso when it happened (yes, 5+ meetings ago) http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/abstracts.php?pt=MTE4OCZuYW5vZzQ1nm=nanog45 I note the talks about using spoofed source packets to do some measurement, I didn't see anyone in the video say: But spoofing is bad, but you

Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese re...@inkworkswell.com wrote: A friend brought this to my attention: http://ipq.co/ as an aside: https://www.nic.co/ note the cert in used for the NIC's website... surely the .CO ccTLD could use a real cert? -chris

Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese re...@inkworkswell.com wrote: A friend brought this to my attention: http://ipq.co/ as an aside: https://www.nic.co/ note the cert in used for the NIC's website

Re: US hunters shoot down Google fibre

2010-09-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
this was presented at the nanog in ... SF I think as well: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/abstracts.php?pt=MTU5NSZuYW5vZzQ5nm=nanog49 not really news... On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

Re: FW: Odd BGP AS Path

2010-09-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Chris Hall chris.hall.l...@highwayman.com wrote: And what about the truly, madly, deeply useless AS_CONFED_SET ?  [A carbuncle's carbuncle if ever I saw one.] AS_CONFED_SET is included in the next version of this draft...

Re: Routers in Data Centers

2010-09-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Heath Jones hj1...@gmail.com wrote: But it seems, that NetFPGA has not enough memory to hold a full view (current 340k routes). It's just a development platform for prototyping designs, not something you would use in production... I want to use it to

Re: Using crypto auth for detecting corrupted IGP packets?

2010-09-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Manav Bhatia manavbha...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested in knowing if operators use the cryptographic authentication for detecting the errors that i just described above. yes.

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: A quick check of my (local, incomplete, barely scratch-the-surface) list of such things includes (and I've left out smaller and larger blocks, thus this is a pretty much a snapshot of the middle of the curve):        /16's: 25

Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time

2010-10-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:07 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: \        I -think- what you are really after is the (fairly) new rPKI        pilot - where there are crypto-keys tied to each delegated        prefix.  If the keys are valid, then ARIN (or other RIR) has        sanctioned

Re: Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time)

2010-10-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2010-10-01 17:04, Christopher Morrow wrote: [..] I think so far the models proposed in SIDR-wg include:   o more than one cert tree (trust anchor) Why not in a similar vain as RBLs: white and black lists. I'm sure

Re: Using crypto auth for detecting corrupted IGP packets?

2010-10-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Manav Bhatia wrote: In 6 hours you will have around 8000K BFD packets. Add OSPF, RSVP, BGP, LACP (for lags), dot1AG, EFM and you would

Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

2010-10-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Christopher Morrow this is still less than a /8, which lasts ~3 months in ARIN region and less if you could across RIR's... Which is sort of like saying: no, the point

Re: ILNP and DNS (from 2010.10.04 NANOG50 day 1 morning notes)

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Michael Sinatra wrote: Hence the question: How should I provision authoritative DNS servers, given that the prefix information is provided via DNS--including the prefix information for the DNS servers

Re: AS6517 - Reliance Globalcom -- routing three more hijacked blocks

2010-10-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Heath Jones hj1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, anyway, here's three more hijacked blocks that they (AS6517) are routing.  This is in addition to the 75 such blocks I've already reported.  (I guess that makes 78 hijacked blocks for them, in total.) Out of curiosity,

Re: Equinix MPLS connectivity

2010-10-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Leo Woltz leo.wo...@gmail.com wrote: We are looking for some MPLS connectivity between Equinix Ashburn  and Equinix San Jose  who would the group recommend? why not just buy a wave on someone's dwdm system? (why mpls, I suppose, for what sounds like a ptp

Re: Equinix MPLS connectivity

2010-10-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote: Hi Leo: since you are addressing my comment, probably you meant 'chris' there... Just trying to understand the lingo. What do you mean by buying a wave on someone's dwdm system? And what is dwdm? 'wave' -

Re: Equinix MPLS connectivity

2010-10-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 10/9/10 5:08 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: We have been looking into Sprint but one issue we are running into is lack of IPv6 support.  So we are looking into Level3 and Global.  I think Equinix may also have its own

Re: Internet in DPRK / North Korea

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: 175.45.179.68/ once senses that the potential successor wants his twitters and facebooks...

Re: Internet in DPRK / North Korea

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: 175.45.179.68/ once senses that the potential successor wants his twitters and facebooks... (also nice to see they are rockin' the 4byte

Re: Internet in DPRK / North Korea

2010-10-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:57 PM, jim deleskie deles...@gmail.com wrote: and his 3g's and his wifi's? :) that's just crazy talk. On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address space was returned to ARIN? less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate.

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Joel Esler joel.es...@me.com wrote: Now, if we could get everyone that has these gigantic /8's (or multiple of them) that aren't using them to give some back, that'd be great. it's nice that interop did a nice thing here, but seriously, this is ~3 months of

Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of 45/8 address block

2010-10-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate. Not to be depressing, but a /8 (or 99% of one :-) is potentially less than one month's drain on the global IPv4

Re: data center locations - recommendation's

2010-10-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Santino Codispoti santino.codisp...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping the list can help me out.  We need to setup a few data center locations and I was looking for recommendation’s on City’s and possible providers to rent space from.  I was thinking two within the

Re: IPv4 sunset date revised : 2009-02-05

2010-10-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
(bill is a tease) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:48 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:40:29AM +0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: The IPv4 space here was retired in 2009.  We love the IVI translator code.  

Re: DHS and NSA getting married?

2010-10-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:46 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: An agreement signed this month with the Department of Homeland Security and an earlier initiative to protect companies in the defense industrial base make it likely that the military will be a key part of any response to a

Re: DHS and NSA getting married?

2010-10-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote:        In the words of a former Justice Department official involved with critical infrastructure protection, “I have seen too many situations where government officials claimed a high degree of confidence as to

Re: DHS and NSA getting married?

2010-10-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:05 AM To: George Bonser Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: DHS and NSA getting married? are any of the civilian agencies really prepared/capable of dealing

Re: NTP Server

2010-10-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Peter Lothberg r...@stupi.se wrote: 1) How necessary do you believe in local NTP servers? Do you really need th= e logs to be perfectly accurate? 2) If you do have a local NTP server=2C is it only for local internal use= =2C or do you provide this NTP server

Re: NTP Server

2010-10-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 10/24/10 10:20 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Peter Lothberg r...@stupi.se wrote: How do you knew that your local NTP server knew what time it is?  (for sure) this question is a trap

Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?

2010-10-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis s...@cb3rob.net wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2010, Randy Carpenter wrote: - Original Message - On 10/26/2010 12:04 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: In practice, the RIRs are implementing sparse allocation which makes it possible to aggregate

Re: Topic: Inter-AS BGP Local Preference Matrix

2010-10-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote: 5. All vendors should make an effort to standardize the values/value ranges offered with other vendors. 6. All vendors should offer a local preference matrix to their customers, listing the changes made to a

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-10-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:22 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:21:41 PDT, George Bonser said: With v6, while changing prefixes is easy for some gear, other gear is not so easy.  If you number your

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 -Unique local addresses)

2010-10-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:01 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: ula really never should an option... except for a short lived lab, nothing permanent. I have a few candidate networks for it.  Mostly networks used for clustering or database access where they are just a flat LAN with no

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-10-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: If Woody had gone straight to a ULA prefix, this would never have happened... Or better yet, if Woody had gone straight to PI, he wouldn't have this problem

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:32:39 -0400 Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:45

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
oops, I clipped a little too much from the message before replying... On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: Permanent connectivity to the global IPv6 Internet, while common, should not be essential to being able to run

Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching

2010-11-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation?  I had some peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT or it requires MANUAL configuration of the address selection rules to be used with PA. not everyone's network requires 'routed' ... wrt the internet.

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 5:21 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:01:32 PDT, Owen DeLong said: On Nov 3, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: Actually PI is WORSE if you can't get it routed as it requires NAT

Re: Register.com DNS outages

2010-11-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up. I just sent an email out to my companies staff to keep an eye on our own customers if they are noticing any issues. Times like this, makes you curious what kind of infrastructure

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

2010-11-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: No one will ever be in ratio compliance with an eyeball dominant network.  Ever.   Period.  It's not possible via technology and TOS.  Enforcing it as an eyeball network just forces content providers to aquire eyeballs,

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

2010-11-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:22:34PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: see craig's report from nanog47: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Monday/Labovitz_ObserveReport_N47_Mon.pdf

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: Considering there are mobile roaming partners that charge USD10-15 per megabyte, unfortunately that proposition is really hard to do in todays global market. but really, the 'cost' here is the same as a local wireless

Re: Cage nuts/rack hw near SAVVIS DC3 (Sterling VA)

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Cat Okita c...@reptiles.org wrote: On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Leo Bicknell wrote: Every meeting I have with a colo provider I suggest this exact idea. Patch cables (cat5, single mode, multi-mode), fiber couplers, maybe even SFP's, velcro ties, a 10-in-1 screwdriver,

Re: FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: as usual i see no traffic measurements in the renesys note.  i see inference of traffic based on some control plane measurements.  and, has been shown, such inferences are highly suspect. it's fairly clear though that you won't

Re: FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: conspiracy-hatalso, you won't get the traffic stats from the offending parties/conspiracy-hat and how much traffic data does google publish? or iij or ntt?  oops!  cho, fukuda, esaki, kato [0] did show real traffic data from

Re: Trying to Make Sense of the Comcast/Level 3 Dispute

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Interesting article: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/sjs/trying-make-sense-comcast-level-3 - -dispute Considering the fact that I received an e-mail survey

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions

2010-12-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote: fair game for reverse billing.  If it does, it's going to completely eliminate transit as a commercial offering; instead, we'll all be stuck doing settlements in every direction for traffic...and that's just *way* too

Re: wikileaks unreachable

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: and this is based on what facts? Instead of tweeting about how to reach their content, or their IP 'they' is a multicast address ... dyn/everydns or wikileaks? which is the 'they' that is doing the twittering?

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? what's super fun here is that often in conversations with registries about domains used for

Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:45 AM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: We do remember, don't we, that the domain that started this discussion were shut down by Verisign, the registry, not a registrar? interesting that in THIS case the registry just took the action, was the domain registered

Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:47 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: If the instant problem is that the character of eyeball-level Internet service has shifted to include a major component of data which is more or less broadcast in nature (some with time shifting, some without). There's a

Re: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 11:08:21AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: the above is essentially what Akamai (and likely other CDN products) built/build... from what I understand (purely from the threads

Re: wikileaks unreachable

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams brun...@nic-naa.net wrote: there exists a free speech application for fast flux hosting networks, and its in connecticut, not china. (during the icann gnso pdp on fast flux hosting the above assertion was generally dismissed) 'fast flux

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