On 4/14/21 18:07, Niels Bakker wrote:
The relevant virtue that's signaled with green energy is that its MWh
prices are WAY lower than traditional fossil fuel-based generators.
Particularly when you factor in close to no maintenance costs for things
like PV, and a nominal 1% drop in
On 4/14/21 18:03, Stan Barber wrote:
I would suggest that the regulation paradigm in Texas does not allow
coordinated maintenance scheduling to adapt to supply and load issues
(especially in the face of a disaster like the Winter event earlier
this year). That would mean a stronger
On 4/14/21 17:35, Brian Johnson wrote:
I appreciate the nuances, but the need to imply that a profit motive
was the issue is not proven. This issue was NOT foreseeable except
with the perfect reverse 20/20 vision. It’s like saying that I
shouldn’t have built the house where the tornado
On 4/14/21 17:12, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Bringing it back to the topic on hand: How do we keep the grid up? Or
plan for it not being up?
I think "planning for the grid not being up" is more within our control
than the former :-).
Data centres serving base power load from solar PV,
On 4/14/21 15:34, Mike Bolitho wrote:
Can we keep this mailing list free of politics please? Being for or
against renewable energy has nothing to do with network operations.
Not necessarily as all those large data centres popping up in my
neighborhood means better Internet for me and my
On 4/14/21 15:04, Mike Hammett wrote:
---
Even as I support renewable plants, I am not yet fully convinced that a
quick and massive decommissioning of fossil fuels for base load
generation is feasible.
---
Nuclear is the only way to have a reliable base load generation that
doesn't release
On 4/14/21 13:35, Billy Croan wrote:
Sounds like we all need to start keeping a few days reserve of energy
on hand at home now because the utilities can't be trusted to keep
their system online in 2021.
It just makes sense to plan along those lines, really. Despite popular
belief, power
On 4/14/21 07:44, Yang Yu wrote:
a watch that has been cancelled, not an emergency
http://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages/2021/04
Apr 13 2021 19:22:55 CST
Physical Responsive Capability < 2500 MW: ERCOT has cancelled the
following notice: ERCOT is issuing a Watch due to
On 4/14/21 03:49, Sean Donelan wrote:
ERCOT ISO Texas has announced the end of today's emergency energy
conservation appeal due to a shortage of generation capacity and
higher than forecasted demand caused by a cold front.
No this is not an old message. Yep, Texas is having power
On 4/9/21 00:19, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
As an anecdotal data point, the only effect this has had is teaching
random 14 year olds how to use ordinary consumer grade VPNs, which
work just fine.
One way or the other, you can't keep the kids from what they want :-).
Mark.
On 4/5/21 21:30, Douglas Fischer wrote:
Here goes a link fo an excellent analysis of IPv6 and Playstation
This says a lot about why some prefer DualStack.
https://toreanderson.github.io/2021/02/23/ipv6-support-in-the-playstation-5.html
On 4/5/21 22:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
Further to that, I’ve done a very complete testing, for a customer,
with a PS4 in a LAN with 464XLAT and everything worked fine.
Unfortunately, as this was contracted by a customer, I can’t disclose
all the test set, but believe me
On 4/2/21 01:41, Tony Wicks wrote:
Local backhaul is plentiful and relatively cheap where as subsea
wavelengths are extremely expensive and require months of planning.
Funny, it's the exact opposite for us.
Mark.
On 4/2/21 00:56, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
And after all that, I still do not see what we are arguing about? You
want the game companies to change their business model, but you do not
want to change yours. Please do not say something like “but if they
just ….” Unless you want the game
On 4/1/21 21:01, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote:
Are big games roll out really impacting NANOG? or it's more a: Hey I was
curious what happened and I thought to ask here on NANOG?
The latter, I'd say.
Mark.
On 3/29/21 07:21, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
The US State Department is already a large customer for dedicated
transponder capacity, in C-band hemispheric and Ku beams in some weird
places in the world.
As a randomly chosen example if you take a look at the roof of the UK
embassy in Kabul,
On 3/29/21 02:23, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
I am not saying it is an impossible problem to solve, but any system
intended for that sort of purpose would have to be designed for
circumvention, and not a consumer/COTS adaptation of an off the shelf
starlink terminal.
Behind the walls of an
On 3/27/21 12:20, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote:
(not directed at anyone specifically)
I think for the people who are concerned about the younger generations
not having this knowledge, think of how to fix it rather than just
giving up on the younger generation.
Sure not everyone will
On 3/27/21 07:30, b...@theworld.com wrote:
The video is pretty good particularly where it's most pessimistic.
My prediction:
It might take a little more than ten years but I'll predict positive
ID or you're not getting anywhere useful.
And a lot of people here will loathe that.
On 3/26/21 23:30, b...@uu3.net wrote:
Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything..
Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by
large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer
does NOT care about NAT and that he cant run services or he
On 3/26/21 23:00, Mark Andrews wrote:
There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can be
addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been
legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn’t have to deploy NATs. Homes
shouldn’t have to deploy NATs.
On 3/26/21 22:12, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Ten years from now? Easy. We’ll still be talking about the continued shortage
of IPv4 address space and (legitimately) complaining about why IPv6 still isn’t
the default addressing/routing methodology for the Internet worldwide.
Thankfully, the
On 3/26/21 21:42, Michael Thomas wrote:
So the obvious question is what will happen to the internet 10 years
from now. The last 10 years were all about phones and apps, but that's
pretty well played out by now. Gratuitously networked devices like my
dishwasher will probably be common, but
On 3/26/21 19:58, Randy Bush wrote:
in 2010, the internet society made some videos on possible internet
futures ten years out, i.e. nowish. nothing spot on, but themes
can be seen for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB4zfGwctGc
The production style alone takes me back. I never
On 3/25/21 18:51, Allen McKinley Kitchen (gmail) wrote:
And to push this point further:
I don’t claim to speak for all graybeards, but now that I am past the era of
enjoying my kids' school activities, and resting on an empty nest, I once again
don’t mind being involved in what younger
On 3/25/21 03:13, Robert Brockway wrote:
Let's keep in mind that it is not fanciful that networks may need to
be built from the ground up again.
Just maintaining and upgrading the current installed base is enough work
as it is. And it cannot be done efficiently without having a true
On 3/24/21 17:59, Seth Mattinen wrote:
I think age has something to do with that too, and I don't mean this
as offensive at all because I've been there done that, but lack of
other things going on in life. When I was 19 I had no problem being
available on my cell phone at all times. I'd
On 3/24/21 17:51, james.cut...@consultant.com wrote:
An extension of Mark’s comments could include actually using a voice
call if there really is an immediate need — voice message recording is
built-in to many smart phones, wireless handsets, and VoIP services. .
And this is where - per
On 3/24/21 17:43, Mark Tinka wrote:
Time is very precious; if you feel something is urgent, call. Sending
me a text and getting cross because I didn't reply in 60 seconds just
falls on deaf ears. As you say, time is our main asset.
And I afford anyone I text the exact same courtesy
On 3/24/21 17:31, Tom Beecher wrote:
Real time can be helpful when needed, but when it is not, it feels to
me like it becomes significant noise, and often times impossible to
track what conversations are when (and when they were.).
I agree with this when it comes to messaging apps.
I
On 3/24/21 17:08, Phineas wrote:
Chiming in as a somewhat-younger network engineer here (19) - I think
that Discord should be more widely considered and approved as an
option across the board here. I’m active on mailing lists, and while
they work, at the end of the day I’d much rather be
On 3/24/21 16:52, Robert Kisteleki wrote:
All in all, I'm happier if email continues to be the backbone of
communication here.
Same here.
But think about this... every smartphone the kids have comes with either
an e-mail client, a web browser, or both.
Plenty of free e-mail services
On 3/24/21 01:00, Sec Lists wrote:
...only to end up with yet another account at yet another data mining
(future) monopolist butchering standards... I'm all for moving with
the flow and embrace new things as long as it's based on open
standards, open protocols, does not lock people in to
On 3/23/21 22:33, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
The problem comes when the younger generation *does* need access to the same
knowledge - and the older generation is unreachable and/or actually gone.
I've been passionate about keeping the work shop style of the early
2000's going, but it's
On 3/23/21 20:14, Sabri Berisha wrote:
Most of the more effective troubleshooting techniques will require
some sort
of CLI or CLI-like output. In times of crisis, you'll want to be able to
type "show ip bgp summary", instead of waiting for your browser to send a
javascript request to a
On 3/23/21 17:03, Eric Dugas via NANOG wrote:
Agreed. The few good examples in Canada are Ubisoft/i3D (now mostly
just i3D) and Riot Games. We don't have Valve or Blizzard here.
Epic Games seems to use Akamai for downloads/updates and AWS for
backend so I don't see how you can
On 3/23/21 17:11, Seth Mattinen wrote:
Okay great for those apps, but if nobody tells me where the new action
is... how does that help me? With the list here at least it's on
NANOG's website and they tell you how to join in.
This feels like you're saying people are not worthy of being
On 3/23/21 16:34, Seth Mattinen wrote:
The problem with other "social" formats I've found is that they're
often an exclusive club you have to know about through connections or
be invited to. You can also be excluded on a whim.
What you can learn from that is the new brand marketing
On 3/23/21 11:37, Alfie Pates wrote:
More opinions, from someone old and jaded enough to prefer IRC but
quite a bit younger than the NANOG mailing list itself!
I feel like Mattermost bridged into a private IRC server (Matterbridge
is really good at puppetry these days:
On 3/23/21 11:35, Cynthia Revström wrote:
I think this is at least partially true, but I think it is more not
wanting to be disrespected at the time they ask these questions.
No one was born with this kind of knowledge, and everyone was clueless
at some point in time.
Totally agree.
It is
On 3/23/21 08:41, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote:
And while Discord is not at all a replacement for mailing lists in my
opinion, I think it's important to realize that it (and other chat
based things like it) have their place, especially among the younger
groups.
Best advice we can
On 3/23/21 08:22, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote:
Using a chat system they are already familiar with to ask more casual
questions is a lot easier for some.
Especially if you are thinking of people who are just starting out,
some of which will be part of the next generation of network
On 3/23/21 02:22, Tomasz Rola wrote:
I am not going to lament much, either. It is just how it goes. On the
brighter side, there will also be a minority, who will come to email
exactly because they will be aspiring power users. I think there will
always be some aspiring power users, so it is
On 3/22/21 19:22, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
Sigh. It is probably a losing battle. You kids get off my grass!
You're right about that last part.
The kids are using what they feel gives them value and simplicity.
I'm old skool, but I'll be the first one to find a way to reach them via
the
On 3/22/21 17:55, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
Part of my struggle is that I fail to see how it scales to poll
multiple sites (or app icon notifications) when there are 10s, 100s,
or even more things to check. This is /exactly/ one of the reasons
that I *strongly* /prefer/ email, it
On 3/22/21 15:14, Mike Hammett wrote:
I would love to have HTTP GUI that just does all of the dirty work.
However, a sufficient number of people affiliated with that
organization do indeed need to be able to CLI their way through the
troubleshooting process for when the HTTP GUI inevitably
On 3/21/21 16:03, Noah wrote:
When we requested for feedback, them gen-z cried out loud for
interactions to happen on some social media app through groups or
channels, and since they are the target audience and the majority, we
settled for discord and telegram which they actively engage
On 3/21/21 03:45, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
But it's another thing to consider that we have a whole new generation
of people who /don't know and don't care/ what's going underneath the
GUI and might not be able to do anything with the OS running on bare
metal, if they have to.
If we intend to
On 3/21/21 03:34, David Siegel wrote:
...not to mention that all mature networks are moving more towards GUI
front ends for their automated network. As the complexity of
a network increases, CLI access becomes considerably more risky.
The idea that "real engineers use the CLI" is
On 3/21/21 01:52, Brielle wrote:
This is how I’m viewing a lot of this too. It’s like the posts on stack
exchange et al, Reddit, and various forums that are just closed with “fixed”
and no details or follow up.
Kinda defeats the whole purpose of a mailing list with an archive since the
On 3/20/21 23:43, Tom Beecher wrote:
A large portion of these emails lately have contained some variation
of 'contact me off list'. How does that provide any benefit to the
community? Is anyone else in the community getting any information
about what providers may be on a pathway that would
On 3/20/21 20:06, Randy Bush wrote:
i do not find the volume or diversity on the nanog list problematic.
in fact, i suspect its diversity and openness are major factors in
it being the de facto global anything-ops list. perhaps we do not
need to fix that.
Simple. As. That.
Mark.
On 3/20/21 16:54, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
Unfortunately, the *rest* of the thread did more damage to Friday's S:N
ratio than the original post did.
This!
There are many threads on here I don't find useful after 2 posts. So
I'll just gloss over new posts on that thread (if not outright
On 3/20/21 15:13, Niels Bakker wrote:
The volume isn't the point, the S:N ratio is. Mails like this thread's
starter are off-topic and reduce the value of the list to its
subscribers. Your reasoning is easy, common and fallacious.
Plenty of volume being created for something - I presume
On 3/18/21 18:09, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
I doubt that. You’ve been at it for months with requests all over the
world. It was only a matter of time before someone said something.
I'm in two minds about this... I'm on & off NANOG, so have no
recollection of the OP "doing this" more
On 3/18/21 18:11, William Herrin wrote:
Yes and no. "Would you help me identify who does cable between A and
B?" may be on topic. "I'm soliciting bids for X" is certainly not. The
"three year term" statement pushed you solidly into the latter.
Tend to agree with this.
Asking what's
On 3/16/21 17:15, Saku Ytti wrote:
Dunno, ff02::1 would be very necessary (i.e. ND), ff02:: I have no
idea. But you should do yourself favor, before you drop ICMP packets,
allow ND:
Not that you should see it over an exchange point, but LDPv6 runs over
ff02::2. In case that's your style,
On 3/16/21 13:18, Niels Bakker wrote:
I think you're asking this on the wrong list. We're network operators,
not lawyers with a specialisation in competitive markets regulation.
Well, yes and no...
No, we aren't lawyers, but yes in that there is some merit to the
question from a
Hardly famous and not service-affecting in the end, but figured I'd
share an incident from our side that occurred back in 2018.
While commissioning a new node in our Metro-E network, an IPv6
point-to-point address was mis-typed. Instead of ending in /126, it
ended in /12. This happened in
On 2/20/21 19:18, Mike Hammett wrote:
Leave aside any conversation about whether the business has the
ability (or approval) to pay for it or not.
Is it appropriate for organizations that provide services to end-users
to require that you are a paying customer to contact their support?
Is
On 2/19/21 14:34, Martijn Schmidt wrote:
My own admittedly relatively limited experience with networking in
Africa has always been that people truly, honestly want to help make
things better whenever it's reasonably possible (e.g. you obviously
can't break local laws, or ignore a
On 2/19/21 13:47, Jörg Kost wrote:
Hello,
I am sure it could resolve the discussion and the topic easier and
more helpful, if you can line out what exactly is the issue and where
help is needed, and not comparing and generalizing the order of a
circuit for a whole continent to walking or
On 2/19/21 13:19, Rod Beck wrote:
I am sure South Africa is better. I am really referring to French
speaking Western Africa.
Well, South Africa is just one country out of 54.
And French-speaking West Africa is also a multitude of countries.
Mark.
On 2/19/21 10:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
He is. He asked a perfectly relevant question based on what he saw of
the physical setup in front of him.
And he kept his cool when being talked down to.
I’d hire him the next minute, personally speaking.
In the early 2000's, with that
On 2/19/21 00:37, Warren Kumari wrote:
5: Another one. In the early 2000s I was working for a dot-com boom
company. We are building out our first datacenter, and I'm installing
a pair of Cisco 7206s in 811 10th Ave. These will run basically the
entire company, we have some transit, we
On 2/17/21 16:09, Ben Cannon wrote:
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/2021/02/16/electricity-retailer-griddys-unusual-plea-to-texas-customers-leave-now-before-you-get-a-big-bill/
On 2/18/21 19:45, Rod Beck wrote:
Every time I try to bring a circuit into Africa it is like a complete
tour of Dante's Hell.
A broad brush for such a large place.
Mark.
On 2/17/21 20:04, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote:
Other than financials limiting capacity, modern residential solar
systems do not care a wink about what sort of load their DC is
driving. The inverters also are rated for continuous duty.
Solar can drive any load. But to support heavy loads
On 2/16/21 19:27, Brandon Svec wrote:
Mismanagement and poor planning are primarily to blame. One can't
just blame the weather. We know weather will be bad and have extreme
variations.
You mean some like UK airports :-)?
Mark.
On 2/16/21 18:50, John Von Essen wrote:
I just assumed most people in Texas have heat pumps- AC in the summer
and minimal heating in the winter when needed. When the entire state
gets a deep freeze, everybody is running those heat pumps non-stop,
and the generation capacity simply wasn’t
On 2/16/21 17:45, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
The professor has it right. Before the state privatized the grid and made
ERCOT, we never had these problems. Every few years, these private companies
complain they need a rate hike because they need a grant to ‘beef up’ the
infrastructure
On 2/16/21 16:28, Michael Thomas wrote:
We use propane. It's less dense energy-wise than gasoline, but it's
really easy to switch over.
Same here, for our winter. Cheaper than power, and is fast-acting.
Mark.
On 2/16/21 14:23, Bret Clark wrote:
Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold. The
power grids are being overload due to people using their electric heat
or electric portable heaters.
Any shared resource will have its limits exposed when patterns spiral,
unusually.
On 2/16/21 14:22, John Sage wrote:
You don't understand Texas politics relative to the United States at
large.
I certainly do not :-).
Which is fine, but this is a state that had deliberately prevented
interconnects (see: ERCOT, above) into any extended national grid,
principally
On 2/16/21 14:14, Rod Beck wrote:
I agree. Germany spent well over 200 billion Euros on wind and solar
subsidies and over 85% of the country's energy consumption is still
non-renewable. Wind power is randomly generated. I really don't to
depend it for either personal or business needs.
On 2/16/21 14:09, Rod Beck wrote:
The problems with renewables is that you can't switch on or off and
there is no good storage solution.
While solar + batteries would be good backup options, they would do
little to support electric-driven heating, as solar irradiation during
winter is too
On 2/16/21 03:05, Randy Bush wrote:
https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/
That was a good read.
Mark.
On 2/16/21 07:49, Matthew Petach wrote:
Isn't that a result of ERCOT stubbornly refusing to interconnect with
the rest of the national grid, out of an irrational fear of coming
under federal regulation?
I suspect that trying to be self-sufficient works most of the
time--but when you get
On 2/16/21 06:34, Cory Sell wrote:
Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind
is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100%
capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related
generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for
On 2/16/21 06:17, Robert Jacobs wrote:
How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even
let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide
more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now
wind which of course in an ice storm like
On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote:
Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional
borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power
outages elsewhere in the country.
https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402
Sometimes
On 2/15/21 09:59, na...@jack.fr.eu.org wrote:
Yet both ps5 and xbox series x have ipv6 support
A console released in 2013 do not, but its successor released in 2020
have it
How wild is this, I wonder why ?
IPv6 also runs on hardware that was shipped as far back as 2003, if not
On 2/15/21 08:25, William Herrin wrote:
Well actually, that's not entirely true. One thing holding back IPv6
is the unfortunately routine need to turn it off in order to get one
or another IPv4 thing back working again. Like the disney thing
earlier in this thread. Or like my experience
On 2/14/21 22:34, Sabri Berisha wrote:
You are 100% Correct. Perhaps we can get Jeff Bezos to give 25% extra off
at the next Cyber Monday event to those accessing amazon.com via IPv6.
That will not only drive IPv6 deployment at eyeball networks, it's a
feasible plan as well. IF good ol'
On 2/14/21 21:56, Randy Bush wrote:
hint: that idea is from the late '90s. the next bright idea for what
would help ipv6 take over the internet was 3gpp. it's been a long line
of things which would make ipv6 take off. and at least ten million
messages on mailing lists such as this. and
On 2/14/21 04:24, Mark Foster wrote:
So the business case will be the 'killer app' or perhaps 'killer service'
that's IPv6-only and that'll provide a business reason.
But chicken and egg.. who wants to run a service that's IPv6-only and miss out
on such a big userbase?
Perhaps it's time
On 2/14/21 02:00, scott wrote:
I would be looking for a new job and it is a much larger network than
2 routers is a big city. :) Sabri Berisha was correct: "The true
enemy here is mid-level management that refuses to prioritize
deployment of IPv6. What we should be discussing is
On 2/12/21 21:56, scott wrote:
100% agreed! Been whining about that here many times. I have been
trying to get IPv6 going for a long time, but the above stopped my
plans. One thing I mentioned recently, though, is we just got a
$BIGCUSTOMER and their requirement was we do IPv6. So
On 2/12/21 06:41, Randy Bush wrote:
iij joined in '97. and helped others who asked. but i'm from the rainy
pacific northwest (of the states). we don't try to push water uphill.
As my Gambian friend would say, "Lead a horse to water, and teach it how
to fish".
My first join was in
On 2/12/21 02:51, Randy Bush wrote:
i must say i am impressed that the ipv6 must be deployed now and it
solves it all religion is still being shouted from the street corner 25
years on. it is as if the shouters think they will convince any body or
change anything. folk will deploy X when
On 2/11/21 16:29, Owen DeLong wrote:
Ridiculous… TCP/IP was designed to be a peer to peer system where each endpoint
was uniquely
addressable whether reachable by policy or not.
IPv6 restores that ability and RFC-1918 is a bandaid for an obsolete protocol.
Stop making excuses and let’s fix
On 2/10/21 19:50, Doug Barton wrote:
I also reject the premise that any org, no matter how large, needs to
uniquely number every endpoint. When I was doing IPAM for a living,
not allowing the workstations in Tucson to talk to the printers in
Singapore was considered a feature.
On 2/1/21 17:13, Rod Beck wrote:
I think that report is a summary of the thinking that led to the new
higher count cables. In fact, those researchers work for the companies
that laid those cables.
The new cables are based on the ideas outlined in that paper? spacing
regen farther apart,
On 2/1/21 12:30, Rod Beck wrote:
Here is the intellectual foundation or underpinnings of the new deep
sea design which are enabling fiber pair counts as high as 24.
I think the engineers might enjoy this.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8369356
On 1/27/21 19:54, Mike Hammett wrote:
I believe strand counts were small because the power needed for that
many amplifiers was too much to bear for budgets.
Also because the amount of capacity we are talking about nowadays,
driven by the content folk, is something telco's could only (and
On 1/27/21 18:11, Rod Beck wrote:
What is interesting is this new deep sea design. In the old days
cables had 4 to 8 pairs max. Now I am seeing Orange talking about 18
pairs and 24 pairs. With more widely regeneration.
Because of the way current submarine cables are being built (mainly by
On 1/27/21 16:52, Fox, Barbara wrote:
I asked a submarine guy how much the fibers can carry because this
sounded low to me. His response:
That was just an example to illustrate the commercial contracting, not
the technical capabilities.
Cables currently being laid in the sea are going
On 1/27/21 13:39, Rod Beck wrote:
How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some
fashion.
It would be based on the amount of capacity each fibre in the overall
system can carry across a given line system span.
So say a cable system is able to carry 960Gbps per fibre
On 1/26/21 22:51, Rod Beck wrote:
Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it
literally to mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it was a
large quantity of spectrum. Please illuminate. On or off list as you
please.
It is language used in the submarine world,
On 1/19/21 17:15, Sean Donelan wrote:
There is only one problem in engineering -- scaling.
Country internet shutdowns never go to zero. There's usually 5% to
15% left over connectivity. There are always a few embassies,
international companies, NGOs and even government offices itself
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