Re: Any info on AT Wireless Outage?

[Ryan Wilkins via NANOG]

No $5 received here.. Just a text message saying, "It's AT We apologize for 
Thursday's outage, which may have impacted you. As a valued customer, your 
connection matters and we are committed to doing better.” 

I had the thought the other day that maybe this was a hack and that they didn’t 
want to admit such.  I’m sure FirstNet being taken over by hackers isn’t 
exactly the message they want out there.  Regardless of what the actual cause 
was, their lack of communicating anything meaningful is saying something which 
boosts the chances that this was a hack in my mind.

Agreed on the human error thing, but maybe the human error was something the 
hackers did that they didn’t mean to.


> On Feb 29, 2024, at 2:55 PM, Javier J  wrote:
> 
> Where did you see this? Erik Prince was on the PBD podcast saying he has a 
> 70% chance in his head it was China. I tend to learn towards human error from 
> my experience in the IT biz.
> 
> - J
> 
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:58 AM  > wrote:
>> I read it as “someone pushed an ACL that wasn’t properly reviewed and it 
>> really screwed things up."
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2024, at 21:41, Mark Seiden >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> aside from the official pablum that was released about an “incorrect 
>>> process used”
>>> (which says exactly nothing) does anyone actually know anything accurate 
>>> and 
>>> more specific about the root cause?
>>> 
>>> (and why it took 11 hours to recover?)
>>> 
 On Feb 22, 2024, at 11:15 AM, John Councilman >>> > wrote:
 
 From what I've read, they lost their database of SIM cards.  I could be 
 wrong of course.
 
 On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 2:02 PM Dorn Hetzel >>> > wrote:
> As widespread as it seemed to be, it feels like it would be quite a trick 
> if it were a single piece of hardware.  Firmware load that ended badly, I 
> wonder?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:51 PM Leato, Gary via NANOG  > wrote:
>> Do you have the ability to expand on this at all? Do you mean a hardware 
>> failure of some kind IE router, optitcs, etc?
>> 
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>> From: NANOG > > On Behalf Of R. Leigh Hennig
>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 8:17 AM
>> To: Robert DeVita > >
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
>> Subject: Re: Any info on AT Wireless Outage?
>> 
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>> 
>> Word around the campfire is that it’s a Cisco issue.
>> 
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>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:03 AM, Robert DeVita > > wrote:
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Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

[Ryan Wilkins]

A company I work for designs a lot of our own hardware and we’ve had a number 
of critical components go EOL suddenly and without warning, such as FPGAs, 
ADCs, clock generators, and SOMs just to name a few.  Just a few weeks ago we 
were informed that a large order of FPGAs was not going to be filled at all and 
the order was cancelled.  Of the parts that aren’t EOL (yet), many have 52-week 
lead times which is just a place holder for “we have no idea when we’ll get 
these” and not an actual delivery estimate.  Older product lines and lower 
volume product lines are being cancelled.  We had an ADC go EOL because the 
only factory in Japan making this part burned down so not necessarily related 
to what we think of as supply chain issues, but it is of a different sort.

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Joe Freeman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Basically, anything that uses Broadcom or other commodity silicon is 
> currently 55+ weeks out according to most of the vendors I work with. Custom 
> Silicon is a bit better or so I'm told, but I've not had to order much gear 
> with custom silicon lately, so I've not got a clear read on lead times there.
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised to see some recent gear go End of Sales early just 
> because of component shortages and fabs moving to produce the more in-demand 
> parts over older less profitable parts.

Re: home router battery backup

[Ryan Wilkins]

When I subscribed to Windstream fiber at my house a couple years ago I didn’t 
order voice service but they installed a UPS anyway.  Curiously, they also 
connected the wires meant for voice lines to their outdoor equipment mounted on 
the house.  The guy told me he did that after he hooked it up which I was 
mildly annoyed about since I had planned to use that cable for other reasons.  
He was pushing voice service and said I was hooked up for voice should I want 
to do this in the future.  I’m unsure if this is a standard Windstream install 
or what.

To add to that, I have my own UPS installed on some of my indoor equipment.. 
router, one WiFi AP, Synology file server, x86 linux server.  While we almost 
never lose power at my house, yesterday we lost power for 7 minutes.  I 
maintained Internet connectivity throughout the brief outage.

Ryan Wilkins

> On Jan 12, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi NANOG mailing list,
>  
> I am a graduate student, currently conducting research on how power outages 
> affect home Internet users. I know that the FCC has a regulation since 2015 
> (47 CFR Section 9.20) requiring ISPs to provide an option to voice customers 
> to purchase a battery backup for emergency voice services during power 
> outages. As this is only an option and only applies to customers who 
> subscribe to voice services, I was wondering if anyone had any insights on 
> the prevalence of battery backup for home modem/routers? I.e., what 
> percentage of home users actually install a battery backup in their home 
> modem/router or use an external UPS?
>  
> Thanks.
> Scott
>  
> Reference for 47 CFR Section 9.20: 
> https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-A/part-9/subpart-H/section-9.20
>  
> <https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/chapter-I/subchapter-A/part-9/subpart-H/section-9.20>

Re: IPv4 Mismanagement

[Ryan Wilkins]

I have the same thing with a service that was disconnected a couple years ago.  
Four IP blocks of /24 size are still swipped to us and we’re announcing them.  
I don’t put any customers on them and just use them for temporary things for 
fear that some day someone will want them back.

> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Matt Brennan  wrote:
> 
> 
> A service I disconnected more than 2 years ago still has a /24 of their space 
> SWIPED to me. Their NOC closed the ticket I opened to remove. Unknown if it's 
> actually in use for another customer. 
> 
> I also had a conversation last week with another ISP (we were renegotiating 
> our contract) about this. The order form they sent me had multiple /28's we 
> had "given back" years ago still listed. Turns out they're still being routed 
> to us as well. 
> 
> I would bet it happens all over the place. 
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:00 PM Matt Hoppes  > wrote:
> I'm sitting here in the office on a Friday performing some IP 
> maintenance and I see that one of our upstreams is still filtering an IP 
> range we haven't used in years.   I dig into it a bit more and it turns 
> out a major carrier still has them SWIPed to us.
> 
> This got me curious and I dug more into IPs from back in our early days 
> and discovered there are two Tier-1 carriers we no longer do business 
> with that still have large blocks of their own IPs SWIPED and allocated 
> to us.
> 
> This is really confusing and concerning.   I know it's not the 
> end-all-be-all, but I wonder how much IPv4 exhaustion is being caused by 
> this type of IPv4 mis-management, where IPs are still shown as 
> "allocated" to a customer who hasn't used them in years.
> 
> I've seen this behavior from Frontier and CenturyLink to name just a few.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?

Re: Cogent emails

[Ryan Wilkins]

All I did was express interest a few years ago and ever since then they’ve 
called and emailed me pretty regularly.  Just got one yesterday.  I’m probably 
on the fourth sales guy now since I first asked.

Ryan Wilkins

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Jesse DuPont  
> wrote:
> 
> We started getting emails the moment we got our own AS (earlier this year).

Re: Time and Timing Servers

[Ryan Wilkins]

Yes, expect CDMA cellular to disappear before too long.

Verizon is shutting down their CDMA network at the end of this year.

Sprint announced in February 2019 that it is no longer activating CDMA-only 
devices starting May 1 2019.  No sunset date has been announced yet but suffice 
it to say the ball is in motion to sunset their CDMA network.

Any of the regional carriers that run CDMA networks are likely to follow suit 
in short order.

Ryan Wilkins

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Isn't a major problem with CDMA-based sources that the networks they depend 
> on are getting shut down?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> 
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> From: "Ethan O'Toole" 
> To: "Mike Hammett" 
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:46:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers
> 
> > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without 
> > the assistance of an external antenna (Frontier says they no longer 
> > allow external antenna), will provide traditional NTP services, and will 
> > provide a timing signal that my Metaswitch can work with.
> 
> GPS inside a building probably isn't going to work unless you have the 
> antenna up against a window.
> 
> Look at CDMA NTP Servers like the EndRun Sonoma. They use the cellular 
> network which requires accurate timing and has good building penetration.
> 
>  - Ethan O'Toole

Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform

[Ryan Wilkins]

A Raspberry Pi uses USB 2 for Ethernet interconnection to the CPU so it most 
definitely will not keep even half a gig full.  It’ll do a bit over 300 Mbps.

Ryan Wilkins

> On Jan 16, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Casey Russell  wrote:
> 
> I don't think a raspberry pi will reliably fill a full Gig and keep it full 
> (maybe that's not required in this scenario), but I've installed a Linux 
> based OS with the PerfSONAR tools (including iperf) on a couple of different 
> mini PCs in the "few hundred dollars" price range.  
> 
> The last one was the Liva X from ECS.  It was more than capable of filling 1G 
> circuits with traffic and keeping them full without loss or wonky results due 
> to things like CPU overrun or other processes causing bus contention.  I'm 
> pretty sure the Liva X is retired now, but their current gen should suffice 
> as should a number of comparable competitors.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Casey Russell
> Network Engineer
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> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:27 PM Chris Kimball  <mailto:ckimb...@misalliance.com>> wrote:
> Would a raspberry pi work for this?
> 
>  
> 
> Could 3D print a nice case with your logo for it.
> 
>  
> 
> From: NANOG mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> On 
> Behalf Of Colton Conor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:16 PM
> To: David Guo mailto:da...@xtom.com>>
> Cc: NANOG mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
> Subject: Re: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform
> 
>  
> 
> Last time I setup Iperf3 it was semi difficult, and would be impossible 
> trying to coach a soccer mom on how to setup over the phone.
> 
>  
> 
> I am leaning towards a CPE that has speed test built in, or a low cost, sub 
> $100 device we could ship to the customer to install. Anyone know of 
> something like that?
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:55 AM David Guo  <mailto:da...@xtom.com>> wrote:
> 
> We ask our customers use iperf3 to test speed.
> 
>  
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>  
> 
> From: NANOG mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org>> on 
> behalf of Colton Conor  <mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 00:54
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Network Speed Testing and Monitoring Platform
> 
>  
> 
> As an internet service provider with many small business and residential 
> customers, our most common tech support calls are speed related. Customers 
> complaining on slow speeds, slowdowns, etc.
> 
>  
> 
> We have a SNMP and ping monitoring platform today, but that mainly tells us 
> up-time and if data is flowing across the interface. We can of course see the 
> link speed, but customer call in saying the are not getting that speed. 
> 
>  
> 
> We are looking for a way to remotely test customers internet connections 
> besides telling the customer to go to speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net/>, 
> or worse sending a tech out with a laptop to do the same thing.
> 
>  
> 
> What opensource and commercial options are out there? 
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Re: Cellular backup connections

[Ryan Wilkins]

You mention your connection is 4G.  On T-Mobile 4G is UMTS whereas LTE is, 
well, LTE.  Are you really on UMTS (which I would expect to have much crazier 
RTTs and jitter like you report) or did you mean LTE?

Ryan

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 7:06 AM, Dovid Bender  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I finally got around to setting up a cellular backup device in our new POP. I 
> am currently testing with T-Mobile where the cell signal strength is at 80%. 
> The connection is 4G. When SSH'ing in remotely the connection seems rather 
> slow. Ping times seem to be all over the place (for instance now I am seeing: 
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 174.142/336.792/555.574/99.599 ms) . Is that just 
> cellular or is that more related to the provider and the location where I am? 
> I could in theory test with VZ and ATT as well. With Verizon they charge 
> $500.00 just to get a public IP and I want to avoid that if possible.
> 
> Thanks and sorry in advance if this is off topic.
> 
> 

Re: Zayo vs Coent

[Ryan Wilkins]

I have both Zayo and Cogent at my location in West Chicago, IL and have found 
that most of my traffic transits Cogent.  I haven’t had much in the way of 
issues with the Internet service of either but Zayo does seem to have gone down 
hill in terms of support quality since they bought Abovenet.

I’m aware of the Cogent peering issues but haven’t investigated them fully.  
Recently, there was an extended service outage on my Zayo 1G link due to dark 
fiber issues on a private network which left me with Cogent only for about a 
week and had no support calls because of it.  YMMV.

Best,
Ryan Wilkins

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Dovid Bender  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are in a facility where my only options are Cogent or Zayo. We plan on 
> getting a 10G connection for a web crawler using v4 only. Looking for 
> feedback on either or (keeping the politics out of it). 
> 
> TIA.
> 
> Dovid
> 

Re: USA local SIM card

[Ryan Wilkins]

> On Sep 17, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Max Tulyev <max...@netassist.ua> wrote:
> 
> Nice advertising, thank you! =)
> 
> But still have open some questions I asked before:
> 
> 1. My phone is not LTE but 3G GSM/UMTS capable (all bands,
> 850/900/1700/1900/2100). Will it work? Is 3G coverage good enough in New
> York and Orlando for VoIP calls (SIP, Viber, Skype)?

This limits you to using either T-Mobile or AT since they're the only 
nationwide carriers using GSM/UMTS.

T-Mobile's network on GSM for data is garbage, but they've got UMTS deployed in 
many areas, however, there are areas which only have GSM and LTE service.  
Those are more likely to be areas where they never added UMTS but did add LTE 
when they started on their LTE deployment 3 or so years ago.  I haven't kept up 
with where UMTS is deployed these days on T-Mobile but it's either AWS-band 
(1700/2100 MHz) or PCS-band (1900 MHz).  Their coverage has gotten a lot 
better, but that's primarily in LTE deployed areas.  I don't think they're 
doing much to expand their UMTS footprint.

AT is going to be similar but I'm less familiar with their network and can't 
speak on it as much.

Latency will be higher on UMTS but you can still use VoIP services, but perhaps 
with some additional audio dropouts.  Your mileage may vary.

> 
> 2. Is there public or private IP address? IPv6?
With standard service, I'm not sure if they support inbound connections to the 
phones or not.  I've never tried.  I suppose that could be worked around with a 
VPN.  I believe that IPv4 is run through NAT but IPv6 might be a public IP.  
Again, I haven't tried to access a network this way over cellular.

Best,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: OT - Verizon/ATT Cell/4G Signal Booster/Repeater

[Ryan Wilkins]

 On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Ammar Zuberi am...@fastreturn.net wrote:
 
 Although this might not apply to you in the US, anyone else thinking about 
 trying this might want to check up on possible legal backlash from using one 
 of these devices. I know you can't legally use one of these in Dubai.

They’re legal in the US as long as they’re registered with the carrier and meet 
the new regulations for intelligent cellular repeaters.  There were some new 
laws regarding these repeaters that went into effect earlier this year, I think 
around April.

A Cel-Fi repeater that I used to own did a nifty thing by scanning for and 
amplifying only the signals belonging to the carrier the repeater was 
programmed for rather than doing a full band repeat of everyone.  I got rid of 
the Cel-Fi when I upgraded to the iPhone 5S which has WiFi calling available on 
it.  It works quite well and no need for the repeater any more.

Best,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: Zayo opinions

[Ryan Wilkins]

I don’t know the history on Zayo but they acquired Abovenet of which I’m a 
customer.

Quite frankly, I haven’t been impressed.  The support went to shit.  The last 
two tickets that I’ve opened with them have had mixed results.  The first 
ticket they called me back 5 days after opening a ticket for a DDoS block 
request and the second they never called back for another DDoS block request.  
Next time I call them I’m going to demand to speak with someone immediately.

Otherwise, the network seems to be fine.

Ryan


 On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:16 PM, james jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote:
 
 I am current going through some vendor selection for tier 1 providers. I
 was trying get some opinions on Zayo. I have personally never heard of
 them. Thoughts?

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Jul 21, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Aaron aa...@wholesaleinternet.net wrote:

 Do you have an example of a municipality that gives free internet access to 
 it's residents?


Cleveland, OH Ward 13.
http://oldbrooklynconnected.com

Nearly every street in the ward has multiple wireless access points serving 
Internet access to the residents at 2.4 GHz.  5 GHz is used for backhaul.  
Ubiquity networks wireless gear is used with a smattering of Mikrotik routers 
throughout.
It’s not terribly reliable but then maybe that’s on purpose to discourage 
lawsuits.  If there is a problem with the system on a Friday at 5:30 PM, it’ll 
be down until the following Tuesday.  The bandwidth also isn’t anything to 
write home about, but for free (meaning I don’t directly send these folks a 
check every month) it’s not too bad.  I can get 6 Mbps down and 2-4 Mbps up, 
sometimes more up and down but that’s fairly rare..  I’ve used it for Netflix 
and it worked reasonably well.  HD content would stream but often would jump 
back to SD.  Rarely would it stop entirely.
I ended up having to setup an account with Time Warner for their Internet 
service because I work from home and the wireless interruptions were enough 
that it was causing problems.  ATT also serves the area but only with 1.5 Mbps 
DSL.  No other wired carriers serve the area aside from dialup.

Ryan Wilkins

Re: Best practices IPv4/IPv6 BGP (dual stack)

[Ryan Wilkins]

 
 Between peering routers on a dual-stacked network, is it considered best 
 practices to have two BGP sessions (one for v4 and one for v6) between them? 
 Or is it better to put v4 in the v6 session or v6 in the v4 session?
 
 According to docs, obviously all of these are supported and if both sides are 
 dual stacked, even the next-hops don't need to be overwritten.
 
 Is there any community-approach to best practices here? Any FIB weirdness 
 (e.g. IPv4 routes suddenly start sucking up IPv6 TCAM space, etc)  that 
 results with one solution over the other?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 DJ


For what it’s worth, my AboveNet and Cogent BGP peerings are v4 for v4 routes 
and v6 for v6 routes.  Two separate sessions to each carrier.

While I don’t have any BGP speaking IPv6 customers yet, I would set up this 
same way to keep the two protocols apart from each other.

Best,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: turning on comcast v6

[Ryan Wilkins]

 On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote:
 
 Pretty much works out of the box on Mikrotik RouterOS if you are
 secure enough in your geek cred to admit to running such stuff here in
 this august forum.
 
 -r
 

I run a few at home and even in an access role at an ISP I work for.  They are 
a bit quirky but generally they work fairly well when configured and left alone.


Ryan Wilkins

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

[Ryan Wilkins]

Since we're on the subject of T-Mobile USA, who was kind enough to send me a 
notification via SMS that my 10 megabytes of roaming data  allotment was all 
used up yesterday while driving a long stretch of I-77 between somewhere in 
mid-Ohio all the way to somewhere about Wytheville, VA, I'm pretty sure the 
fine print says the unlimited data is only useful while on their network which 
we all know to be anything but nationwide.  

Heck, right now I'd just be happy to get some sort of data at all riding the 
rural stretches of major highways.

The upside is my bill dropped considerably by switching from ATT so it goes 
both ways.

Ryan

 On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Warren Bailey 
 wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I realize this is not exactly relevant to the usual topics on NANOG, but I 
 thought this list was a decent place to ask a question related to cellular 
 data usage limits.
 
 Have any of you experienced or been subjected to a domestic data roaming 
 policy? I am a customer of a carrier who advertises Unlimited Nationwide 4G 
 data, but limits their customers to 50MB per month while traveling in an 
 area they do not have coverage (Alaska, for example). I've never heard of 
 such a policy in regards to a Nationwide plan.. I thought the entire idea 
 of saying nationwide was to represent you were covering the ENTIRE NATION.
 
 Happy to receive replies on or off-list.
 
 Thanks!
 //warren
 

Re: Meraki

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:

 It looks like Brocade has swapped out Quagga with IP Infusion's non-free
 version, ZebOS.  They also decided to abandon the FOSS Vyatta Core project.
 
 It's really unfortunate, as the FOSS project is the only reason I was
 interested in paying the licensing.  It was attractive to have Vyatta Core
 as a no-cost option for small things, and the subscription edition for
 higher visibility devices.  Now that they've moved away from having any
 FOSS project, I'm not really inclined to invest in the product, I'm sure
 there are others who feel the same way.
 
 There is a group of people who were active in the Vyatta community trying
 to get a fork of it going under the name VyOS, http://www.vyos.net/
 
 As far as Ubiquiti, it looks like about 2 years ago they actually hired a
 few people from Vyatta, Inc. to work on EdgeOS.  So development of EdgeOS
 has continued [and likely will continue] independently, though it looks
 like at least a few people from UBNT are interested in seeing VyOS happen
 and participating on their own time.  I know one of the early goals for
 VyOS is to get the documentation up on their Wiki and have a release of the
 current Vyatta Core with the name swapped out as a starting point.
 
 I really hope the VyOS project can get off the ground.  If any developers
 familiar with maintaining Debian-based distributions are on-list, I know
 the project is looking for people to help.
 

Interesting to read.  I have two Vyatta SE routers running on a small ISP 
network which have been performing flawless right up until I upgraded to 6.6 
and then one of the routers started randomly dropping some BGP sessions once 
every few days or a week and then the entire BGP process hangs after a couple 
weeks.  The other router, with identical hardware and software, has had nary an 
issue.  It just keeps chugging along (It'll probably go down in a big show of 
smoke and flames tonight right about the time I fall asleep).  Vyatta support 
hasn't been able to make heads or tails of this as of yet.  The affected box 
had no issue prior to the upgrade.  Only a reboot has been able to get the 
router to function properly again.  I've also since upgraded the affected 
router to 6.6R3 at the advice of Vyatta TAC.  So far it shows a similar result. 
 Other services stay running, such as OSPF and OSPFv3, and it still routes 
packets.  It seems to otherwise work fine.  Has anyone else had strange issues 
with Vyatta 6.6?

Ryan Wilkins

Re: Cogent multi-hop BGP

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Aug 28, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was under the impression Cogent no longer did the multi-hop BGP thing,
 but then I got a copy of their NA user guide, and saw the peer-a/peer-b
 configuration. Not a fan.
 
 Anyone know if this is still required for Cogent IP transit service?
 (on/off list is fine.)
 
 -- 
 Tim:


For what it's worth, we started with Cogent doing the A/B peer thing when we 
were running IPv4 only with them.  Once we added IPv6 BGP they migrated us to a 
direct peering.  Much simpler and preferred.  This is in Chicago at 710 
Lakeshore.

Ryan Wilkins

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

[Ryan Wilkins]

I was going to mention this but failed to do so.

At the very least, do some testing first to make sure that the latency isn't 
going to introduce unforeseen issues.  Case in point, the Chicago 
satellite-based network that I manage is sometimes used for Police / Fire / EMS 
dispatching.  The City's Computer Aided Dispatch system ended up crashing 
during an early test when it was discovered that it couldn't handle the high 
latencies encountered on satellite links.  This required the vendor to adjust 
the code to deal with these issues.  Granted this is an extreme example, but 
the point is that the physics of satellite links can do all sorts of things to 
applications that one might not expect.

Cheers,
Ryan Wilkins

On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote:
 
 They will not be happy with VSAT latency (typically 700ms though
 physics says you can never do better than 550, and that's for the
 space segment alone) if they are running RDP, VNC, Citrix, or similar
 technologies.  Sorry for being a buzzkill, Warren.  :)

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

[Ryan Wilkins]

I've used them before on SCPC links.  I discovered on a boat one time that the 
XipLink unit we were using wasn't exactly designed to handle vibrations from 
engines nor the constant pounding of a hull on water when in the ocean with 
large swells.  Back then the boxes were 1U rackmount PCs running some variant 
of BSD, and we had issues with the Ethernet card coming out of the PCI slot 
after a few hours of operational use.   Maybe they've migrated to something a 
little more robust now.  Of course, most normal customers don't put them on 
boats to begin with.  :-)

I agree with your comment about satellite.  It has its place.  Some things it 
is particularly well suited for.  Other things, maybe not so much.  I often 
don't mention satellites when someone asks what I do because most people assume 
I'm a DirecTV installer which couldn't be further from the truth.


On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Warren Bailey 
wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:

 http://www.xiplink.com is who we work with (and sell). Don't mean to
 advertise on NANOG, more of an FYI and place for those who care to learn
 something. I hate the fact that satellite is looked at like a white
 unicorn, it's a pretty cool solution that will perform day in and out for
 as long as you need it to.
 

Re: Vancouver, BC providers

[Ryan Wilkins]

Sounds like a possible candidate for some of the last mile wireless equipment 
available.  The problem is the wireless equipment may cost more than the punch 
to the face and gut.  How much bandwidth are you talking?  You're looking at 
somewhere around $16k for a 300 Mbps Motorola PTP 800 solution at 18 or 23 GHz. 
 BridgeWave has some 1 Gbps stuff out there for about $30k at 80 GHz, but falls 
out during very heavy rains at 2 miles link distance.  BridgeWave just recently 
announced some 1 Gbps radio links at 18 and 23 but that's all I know about them.

Ryan

On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:

 I suppose I could have been a little more clear on what I've
 already found.  Sorry.
 
 The last mile for the Level3 is coming on Telus (after a punch to
 the face and gut for build out fee) so I'd like someone else.
 Shaw does not offer service without what I suspect is another
 punch to the face for a build out.  Bell didn't return any of my
 inquiries via email of voice message.
 
 -r
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 03:21:13PM -0300, jim deleskie wrote:
 I'd expect you could find, Rogers, Telus, Shaw and Bell all there.
 
 
 -jim
 
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ravi Pina r...@cow.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was looking for some metro-e options in Vancouver, BC CA
 specifically in the Downtown/Gastown area.  I'm finding the area
 isn't the most built up so options are very thin.
 
 We already have service through Level3, but would like a
 secondary one.  It doesn't have to be tier1 or even terrestrial
 service so much as reliable and vouched for.
 
 Any tips would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -r
 
 
 
 

Re: Apple updates - Affect on network

[Ryan Wilkins]

Have you previously run TinyUmbrella?  It has been known to set gs.apple.com to 
a cydia server in the local hosts file which would return an error.

Or it could be gs is overloaded or down.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:

 Has anyone else bricked there phone doing the iOS 5 update.  I just ran
 mine in the middle of the update I got a 3004 error doing some research
 that error means can't connect to gs.apple.com I'm guessing that¹s there
 upgrade server.  So right now I'm SOL till I can connect to the update
 server.  Looking on twitter it looks like I'm not the only person that has
 gotten this.
 
 Carlos Alcantar
 Race Communications / Race Team Member
 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
 Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
 www.race.com 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 01:10:08PM -0700, Zachary McGibbon wrote:
 With all of Apple's updates today (MacOS, iOS, Apps, etc) we saw a big
 increase on one of our links to our ISP at 1pm Eastern.
 
 Did anyone else notice significant traffic jumps on their networks?
 
 That's an impressive jump.  Do you have some netflow data showing the
 target subnets that were being hit?
 
 Ray
 
 
 
 

Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Josh Smith wrote:

 I agree that setting up local connectivity between the folks in my
 neighborhood wouldn't be too much of a challenge.  Getting anything
 much beyond that up and running would be a stretch.

Yeah, but the more people communicating the better.  I don't know what all my 
neighbors are capable of doing.  Some of them may be capable of helping the 
cause in ways that I hadn't considered.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: US Warships jamming Lebanon Internet

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Feb 7, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Michael Painter wrote:
 
 Hi Denys
 I doubt it's intentional jamming since I've had the same problem.
 Aegis radar is very high power in full radiate mode and as such creates 
 problems for Low Noise Amplifiers listening at 3.4-4.2 GHz.
 Someone needs to talk to Microwave Filter Company.
 http://www.microwavefilter.com/c-band_radar_elimination.htm
 
 --Michael

+1 for Microwave Filter.  They've helped me out in a couples jams before.  
They're very responsive and the products are good, too.

Ryan Wilkins

Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:57 AM, isabel dias wrote:

 do you have a satellite dish? what are your dish pointing coordinates..we 
 just need to find out what is going on the air interface  ...


I don't personally have one but of of the companies that I contract to is in 
the satellite networks business.  It wouldn't take much to pack up a 1.2m 
antenna, LNB, BUC, iDirect router, cables, and be on the air.  The 3.8m would 
be a bit more difficult to pack up.  ;-)

As for pointing, pick a Ku-band satellite viewable from Chicago and I could be 
on it.  There's a bunch of them.  The iDirect 7350 router will do iDirect TDMA 
or SCPC.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

[Ryan Wilkins]

 IPv6 from both of my upstream providers has been coming soon for about a 
 year and a half.

I'm getting ready to try to enable IPv6 natively with Above.net in the Chicago 
area.  Has anyone had any experience with them?

Thanks,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

  Original Message -
 What do you do when you get home to put it back on the air -- let's
 say email as a base service, since it is -- do you have the gear laying 
 around,
 and how long would it take?
 
 Focus on this part, BTW, folks; let's ignore the politics behind the
 shutdown.  :-)
 

So if I get what you're saying, I could have something operational from scratch 
in a few hours.  I've got a variety of Cisco routers and switches, Linux and 
Mac OS X boxes in various shapes and sizes, and a five CPE + one AP 5 GHz 
Mikrotik RouterOS-based radio system, 802.11b/g wireless AP, 800' of Cat 5e 
cable, connectors, and crimpers.  The radios, if well placed, could allow me to 
connect up several strategic locations, or perhaps use them to connect to other 
sources of Internet access, if available.  If it really came down to it, I 
could probably gather enough satellite communications gear from the office to 
allow me to stand up satellite Internet to someone.  Of course, the trick would 
be to talk to that someone to coordinate connectivity over the satellite 
which may be hard to do given the communications outage you described.  I 
wouldn't be so worried about transmitting to the satellite, in this case I'd 
just transmit without authorization, but someone needs to be receiving my 
transmission and vice versa for this to be useful.  At a minimum, I could 
enable communications between my neighbors.

Regards,
Ryan Wilkins

Re: Satellite IP

[Ryan Wilkins]

On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

 I'm looking into satellite-based 2-way IP transport, on the scale of
 SCPC DVB-RCS or iDirect, as an adjunct to the already installed 
 traditional one-way satellite gear installed in the Frontline DSNG
 truck owned by my new employer, both for MPEG streaming for broadcast,
 and possibly for emergency-response support, if I can sell that idea.
 
 Has anyone on NANOG any personal experience with that, from either end?

I have some experience with what you are asking.  While not from the DSNG side, 
I have experience with satellite based IP using iDirect Infinity shared 
satellite hubs.  The 5000- and 7000-series Infinity remotes will support SCPC 
between two remotes if you wish, but it's all IP based.

Getting into the emergency response arena would require an IP based network.  I 
have done this with the City of Chicago for several communications trucks that 
my former employer built and maintains for them.  They send and receive live 
video, VoIP, and enterprise network data across the satellite.  They have a 
dedicated space segment that they buy annually so they don't run into the issue 
of not having satellite connectivity available when they really need it.  
Trying to sell this together to your employer possibly means a merging of your 
two disparate capabilities.  Can you move your MPEG streams over IP?

 Almost all of what I'll need to do will be what the satellite guys call
 occasional use, ie: I need a six hour block Thursday night, starting
 at 7pm, as opposed to the monthly service with an FAP that most 
 people seem to sell.  LBiSat is one company that understands occasional,
 I'm wondering if there are others (and if their IP jocks hang out here).

Intelsat operates several iDirect hubs available for public use which are tied 
to the Internet.  They should be able to help you with your occasional use 
needs.  If you need a contact, I can try to dig one up for you.

Ryan Wilkins

Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

[Ryan Wilkins]

Instead of the PTP600, you might try looking at the PTP800.  Again,  
not 5.8 GHz but does up to 368 Mbps full duplex over the air  
interface, jumbo frames up to 9600 bytes, AES 128 or 256 bit  
encryption, 11, 18, 23, or 26 GHz depending on what regulatory agency  
you fall under.  Will do fiber or copper handoff at gigabit speeds.


I also have two BridgeWave links installed.  The older stuff (AR80- 
AES) won't do jumbo frames.  The newer stuff (FlexPort-AES) will do  
jumbo frames to something like 9200 bytes.  These links operate at 80  
GHz.  Both models have had issues but the support has been very good.   
Handoff is fiber on the older line and SFP (presumably fiber) on the  
newer line.


Neither are inexpensive.  You're looking at about USD $32k or so for  
the BridgeWave radios per link.  The PTP600 and 800 are about the same  
at USD $15k or so per link.  Prices vary (wildly) with options.


Lab testing of the PTP600 yielded about 225 Mbps each way even though  
the advertised speed was closer to 150 Mbps each way.  In the end, we  
ended up returning the PTP600 before it was installed, not because it  
was a substandard product, but rather because our landlord chose to  
make liberal use of the 5.8 GHz band for security cameras.  I have no  
doubt that we would have closed the links at 5.8 GHz but it would have  
likely killed our landlord's camera network.  Instead of causing  
problems, we chose to return the radios and go with the PTP800 which  
weren't available at the time we were investigating this radio solution.


Good luck on your search.

Ryan Wilkins

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Scott Brown/Clack/ESD sbr...@clackesd.k12.or.us 
 wrote:


The Dragonwave would be my first choice too, but they are not in the  
5.8GHz

band.

The Motorola PTP-600 has a 2000 byte MTU, but doesn't do multimode  
handoff.


What radio to get will come down to what you are willing to give up  
-- if

you are willing to drop the 5.8Ghz band and go with 11Ghz then the
Dragonwave is for you -- the new Horizon Quantum is amazing (and  
pretty

inexpensive when I priced it out)

Bridgewave isn't bad either - you can get to 1.25Gbps with some fiber
handoff.


Scott

Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote on 03/10/2010 02:23:33 PM:


From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
To: Stefano Gridelli sgride...@gmail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date: 03/10/2010 02:23 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

Check out DragonWave:

http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/

-Mike



On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Stefano Gridelli

sgride...@gmail.comwrote:



Hi All,

I need a wireless bridge solution that allows to pass jumbo frames  
over

a
distance of 3 miles, using the 5.8 GHz band. The original solution  
was

a
Proxim Tsunami GX 200, but unfortunately it doesn't go beyond an  
MTU of

1536
bytes: we need at least 1544 bytes, ideally between 4470 and 9212  
bytes
MTU. The handoff should be MM fiber, the desired throughput 200  
Mbps.


Thanks,
Stefano