Re: Unimus as NCM (Network Configuration Management) Tool

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 4/4/24 08:25, Mike Lyon wrote: > >> I use it for config backups, diffs, etc. Love it. >> >> Theres others such as Rancid but im not sure if it works on anything other >> than Vendor C. > > RANCID works perfectly for Cisco, Juniper,

Re: Without further comment:

ROFL. networking is a stream of zeros and one's. You are either 0 or 1 :)) On Sat, Mar 30, 2024, 5:31 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Don't assume my gender. You'll offend me. > > That's a lot of manual work lol... > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024, 11:22 AM William Herrin wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

gineer go extra to help me with a work-around to an obscure issue. -- Chris Adams

Re: Meta outage

see: Status and outages of Meta business products (metastatus.com) From: NANOG on behalf of Kain, Becki (.) via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 11:23 AM To: Jay Ashworth ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Meta outage Does meta keep a

Re: Any info on AT Wireless Outage?

Could it be someone fat fingered in preparation of this? "Starting in March, FirstNet will be the first and only wireless network to provide America’s first responders with always-on priority and preemption across 5G, expanding to include all AT 5G commercial spectrum. "

Re: The Reg does 240/4

isting company that wants more IPv4 space. If you want 240/4 to be reserved for these new companies, you haven't identified ANY reason for ANY existing company or user to exert any resources, other than "but I want it". -- Chris Adams

Re: The Reg does 240/4

k-around that handles 50% of cases". Can you have two Mikrotiks connected to each other with a /31? If not, they don't support using /31s. -- Chris Adams

Re: Networks ignoring prepends?

ere things went. -- Chris Adams

Re: Networks ignoring prepends?

Once upon a time, William Herrin said: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 4:00 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, William Herrin said: > > > Nevertheless, in the protocol's design, the one expressed in the > > > RFC's, AS path length = distance. > > > &g

Re: Networks ignoring prepends?

s used on the Internet. You're about 30 years too late to have any influence on that. -- Chris Adams

Re: Networks ignoring prepends?

override the localpref. Being a customer of a customer makes that harder, but then it's basically on you to choose your connections with that in mind. -- Chris Adams

Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

Once upon a time, sro...@ronan-online.com said: > I am curious if anyone has ever given you positive feedback on this idea? So > far > all I’ve seen is the entire community thinking it’s a bad idea. Why do you > insist this is a good solution? Because people keep responding. -- Chris Adams

Re: U.S. test of national alerts on Oct. 4 at 2:20pm EDT (1820 UTC)

my "regular" phone, and then only showed the Spanish version). -- Chris Adams

Re: U.S. test of national alerts on Oct. 4 at 2:20pm EDT (1820 UTC)

Alert class to be the same, if it exists. > Can anyone corroborate NOAA weather radios not alerting? My weather radio went off for the regular weekly test a couple of hours before the national alert test, and did not go off for the national alert. -- Chris Adams

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

, presuming there is a default route for the remainder. Chris [1] https://github.com/sflow-rt/active-routes

Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed

se but was still an annoying change). -- Chris Adams

Re: SMTP-friendly VPS provider where I can also get a BGP feed

hborhood" reputation (an issue with any VPS as they can't police everything). -- Chris Adams

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 2:46 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > skype uses Silk > (maybe teams too?). We run Teams Telephony in $DAYJOB, and it does use SILK. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/platform/bots/calls-and-meetings/real-time-media-concepts

mail.nanog.org broken v6 reverse DNS

servers for scservers.com return SERVFAIL. -- Chris Adams

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

No, but they do however work just great as an active-active pair of routers when cross linked and iBGP peered to each other and everything downstream connected to each one. Chris On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:43 AM Pascal Masha wrote: > Hello, > > Does the MX204 support virtual chas

Re: Dodgy AS327933 ...?

Mike Hammett [na...@ics-il.net] wrote: > I'd say it's probably the best router UI ever, but I suppose now we'll find > ourselves in a religious argument. > If that's truly how you feel, I would want to talk with you on Signal and get a better idea for what you like and don't like.

Re: Dodgy AS327933 ...?

Mike Hammett [na...@ics-il.net] wrote: > Most people I know don't even use the CLI. They use Winbox. > Which is also terrible.

Re: Dodgy AS327933 ...?

Tom Beecher [beec...@beecher.cc] wrote: > > > > It should be a huge embarrasment to the designers. They survive on low > > price and unique features. It would be quite amazing to have a CLI without > > the nonsense. > > > > That ship sailed years ago. Even though the legal precedent was set after

Re: Dodgy AS327933 ...?

Mark Tinka [mark@tinka.africa] wrote: > > It is not terribly clever of Mikrotik to have two commands that do different > things be that close in syntax. > It should be a huge embarrasment to the designers. They survive on low price and unique features. It would be quite amazing to have a CLI

Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe)

ions, due to the distance and wave reflections. Also, from a security point of view, I have read that it is legal to have your own low-power transmitter on the WWVB frequency, and there are instructions for doing it with a Pi, so it would be very cheap and easy to mess with somebody's WWVB signal. -- Chris Adams

Re: NTP Sync Issue Across Tata (Europe)

0.freebsd as it clearly does have connectivity > >issues from some of the pool project's own sensors. > > Many thanks, Andreas. > > I'll take this up with the FreeBSD folk. It's the NTP pool people you need to talk to - the .freebsd. bit is just a vendored entry into the pool

Shaw peering contact

Anybody have a responsive peering contact at Shaw? I need to resolve a routing problem. Thx!

Re: Treasurydirect.gov unreachable over IPv6?

which connects on port 443 but fails in SSL negotiation. I wonder if some over-zealous network admin blocked all ICMPv6. -- Chris Adams

Re: Standard DC rack rail distance, front to back question

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 9:53 AM Chuck Church wrote: > for a Cisco ASA1001, there aren’t rails, but rather front and back ‘ears’ > you use to hit both front and back posts. > Front *and* back ears? I'm not sure what an ASA 1001 is (ASR?) but my experience with these boxes is that they have a

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

t;ownership", I'm going to registries, not DNS. Since it can't be guaranteed (or even flagged as) maintained, you can't trust any information in that string. -- Chris Adams

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

see any benefit to programmatically-generated reverse DNS. I stopped setting it up a long time ago now. Really, reverse DNS these days is mostly only useful for: - mail servers (where it shows a modicum of control and clue) - infrastructure/router IPs (so mtr/traceroute can show useful info) -- Chris Adams

Re: ABQNOG -- May 4, 2023

Thanks for sharing, John. I'm excited for this event, long overdue! See everyone there - find me wherever the green chile is being served. =) ~Chris On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 8:58 PM John Osmon wrote: > For folks that might be in the southwest US (and any that want to > visit!), we're

Re: Searchable archives of the list?

o impractical. -- Chris Adams

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

; > Fair points again - my take is that spend is one data point worth looking at, along with staffing, and of course along with the self reporting on what things are automated and to what degree. I hope that this combination of metrics will come together to paint an interesting and inform

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 1:09 PM Lou D wrote: > Chris , > > Competed the survey , I think I understand why some might feel issues with > the financial questions but it’s a fair point to understand on how there > can be avenues to maximize savings for one services if you can g

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

e survey is exactly as I stated: To report network automation trends back to the community. And whether we engineers like it or not, one of the best ways to measure trends is in the relative amount of money organizations spend on them... HTH, ~Chris > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 4:12 PM Chris Gru

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:57 AM Denis Fondras wrote: > Le Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:16:13AM -0700, Chris Grundemann a écrit : > > Update: The survey has received almost 4 dozen responses already! > > > > Of course, for the most meaningful results possible, I'd like to s

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 12:15 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > > I was also off put by some of the financial questions in there. > The financial questions (2 of them) both allow opt-out if that is a sticking point. They are also both as vague as possible (large ranges, not exact figures) while still

Re: 2023 State of Network Automation Survey

be better off having the additional data point: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc5J_i2rkcpgkvI83Vj3DRVsau5jZ1u99M7p_ecWOgnW_9XHg/viewform?usp=sf_link Thanks so much! ~Chris On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 6:06 PM Chris Grundemann wrote: > Hail NANOGers! > > For those of you who we

2023 State of Network Automation Survey

the survey is self-explanatory. For a bit more context, the lightning talk can be viewed here: https://youtu.be/p7rlhkmlDog Thanks in advance for your participation! Cheers, ~Chris -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com

Re: Typical last mile battery runtime (protecting against power cuts)

which could easily pulled another 1-2kW (oven, microwave, etc.). And that's without any water/septic pumps. Electric heat pumps are great for power efficiency until the temperature drops and they switch over to pure electric heat. -- Chris Adams

Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

I would suggest that this is trying to solve the wrong problem. To me this is pressure to migrate to v6, not alter routing rules. Kind Regards, Chris Haun On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:21 PM Justin Wilson (Lists) wrote: > Have there been talks about the best practices to accept things smal

RE: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?

How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything less than a /24? In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Justin Wilson (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 9:19 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Smaller

RE: Starlink routing

Don’t quote me on this, but I wouldn’t say they are doing anything different than you or I can do and have access to on the routing layer. It's probably just Nokia and Arista and whatever those systems provide. Stuff like Tunneling, ECMP, BFD and VxLan... Think spatially coordinated Zerotier

RE: SDN Internet Router (sir)

I love that we can't even get a full week into the new year without beating the "let's overhaul BGP" drum. Some things never change. <3 Chris -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Joe Maimon Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 5:51 PM To: Mel Beckman ; Mike Hamme

Re: Google Speed Test

r just about every client OS that tends to be much more accurate. -- Chris Adams

Re: Alternative Re: ipv4/25s and above Re: 202211232221.AYC

to local caches which dillute the stats even more). Thus that data you are referring to is heavily biased and should not be used for this generalized purpose. Regards, Chris On 24.11.22 18:01, Abraham Y. Chen wrote: Hi, Eduard: 0) Thanks for sharing your research efforts. 1) Similar as your

Re: BCP38 For BGP Customers

l back filter in based on something like IRR data? In the case of Juniper, you can use the same prefix-list in your BGP policy (you are applying a filter to your customers' BGP announcements, right?) and the uRPF exception list. -- Chris Adams

RE: juniper.net down?

Works for me on the east coast. Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of aar...@gvtc.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 2:13 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: juniper.net down? juniper.net down? Aaron aar...@gvtc.com<mailto:aar...@gvtc.com>

RE: ServiceNow

I guess now's a good time to recommend this handy site for when you'd like a view from the outside: https://ping.pe No issues at this time reaching that address from pretty much anywhere. - Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mann, Jason via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 1:59 AM

RE: BGP Visualization with Software Galaxies

BGPLay works pretty well. https://stat.ripe.net/about/ From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jacques Latour Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 2:17 PM To: NANOG Subject: BGP Visualization with Software Galaxies I was looking for a functional version of a BGP visualisation tool like the one at NTT

RE: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering

The reply must've been stuck in Cogent's network for the past 13 years. Chris -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Chris Adams Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 10:17 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering Once upon a time

Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering

;can I get to Google and HE on IPv6 on your circuit?". -- Chris Adams

RE: IoT - The end of the internet

soapbox. :D Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tom Beecher Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 9:25 AM To: Christopher Wolff Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: IoT - The end of the internet It always amazes me how an industry that has , since its inception, been constantly solving new problems to make things work

RE: Question re. operator tools - somewhere betwixt fast failover and TE

remediation. At least not from the ones who are willing to pay for it.  --- Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of Matthew Nance Hall Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 12:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc: 'Ramakrishnan Durairajan' ; 'PAUL R BARFORD' ; klaus-tycho.foers...@tu-dortmund.de Subject: Question re

Re: Equinix IX support contact me please

://www.equinix.com/contact-us/customer-support for the appropriate country contact. Chris On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 5:16 AM Elmar K. Bins wrote: > Hi folks at Equinix, > > your peeringdb entry contact address (servicesupp...@equinix.com) bounces. > Please contact me right away to fix a MAC filter. > > Elmar. > >

Re: NANOG List posts and DMARC

ect behavior as it breaks other things). That is not the case right now; it appears to be modifying ALL senders since earlier today (about 12:20pm CDT) . Your message has "From: Bryan Fields via NANOG " even though you have no DMARC record at all. -- Chris Adams

Re: NANOG List posts and DMARC

Once upon a time, Chris Adams said: > Once upon a time, Jared Mauch said: > > Can someone flip the option in Mailman for DMARC please, it’s problematic > > as if one posts and does DMARC and has feedback on, our messages are > > possibly rejected, and the feedback from

Re: NANOG List posts and DMARC

ing (From rewrite) for senders with a DMARC p=reject. -- Chris Adams

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

e each operation individually. -- Chris Adams

Re: FCC proposes fines against 73 applicants of Rural Digital Opportunity Fund

s demo pool to meet their grant timeline requirements. -- Chris Adams

RE: What say you, nanog re: Starlink vs 5G?

The term "5G" among technical circles started vague, became better defined over the course of several years, and is becoming vague again. This nuance was never well understood in the public eye, nor by mass publications like CNN. This is a battle for 12GHz, not 5G. Chris ---

Re: Bgpmon alternative

of the ARTEMIS tool. https://www.modem.show/post/s01e08/ On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 15:47 Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Hi there > > What are the best alternatives to BGPmon these days? > > Goal is to try to monitor bgp routing changes for specific prefixes. > > Mehmet > -- > Mehmet &g

Re: Upstream bandwidth usage

On 10/06/2022 00:31, Mel Beckman wrote: Your point on asymmetrical technologies is excellent. But you may not be aware that residential optical fiber is also asymmetrical. For example, GPON, the latest ITU specified PON standard, and the most widely deployed, calls for a 2.4 Gbps downstream

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

Once upon a time, Michael Thomas said: > I meant downloads as in gigantic games. If you give them more > bandwidth it just encourages the game makes to build bigger game > downloads. I don't buy that - users are still constrained on storage, especially on consoles. -- Chris Adams

Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

5 Mbps is like saying 640k is enough for anybody. -- Chris Adams

Re: fs.com Ethernet switches

pplied after authentication (so you could SSH and authenticate, only to then be denied access, which makes it susceptible to password scanners). Instead you configure an ACL on the SSH service itself. -- Chris Adams

Re: "Permanent" DST

r me, CST will change from UTC-0600 to UTC-0500). How will you distinguish between "old" MST and "new" MST when you see it listed? -- Chris Adams

Re: "Permanent" DST

Once upon a time, Jay R. Ashworth said: > This also, as I understood it, why high-school is always the first grade > level which starts, and ends, the school day (often 7a-2p or so). Not "always"... high school starts 30-40 minutes later than the younger kids here. -- Chris Adams

Re: "Permanent" DST

all because some businesses think their hours are nailed for all eternity, and the world must change instead. -- Chris Adams

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flow collection and analysis

tware handles certs and updates. -- Chris Adams

Re: home router battery backup

ch jitter! :) Use a proper serial or GPIO port, with that you can get down to sub-microsecond accuracy. -- Chris Adams

Re: home router battery backup

e cutters). -- Chris Adams

Re: home router battery backup

here's a power outage, but we also haven't had any extended outage. Since the fiber network is run by the utility, the huts are at substations, so it would take a substation outage to knock out power to the hut (and I think they may still also have generators at the huts). -- Chris Adams

Re: Linode and/or Google Fiber contacts?

Once upon a time, Chris Adams said: > Anybody here from Linode and/or Google Fiber that can help out with > packet loss between these networks at NYIIX peering? It's been going on > for almost a week... opened a Linode case and they looked at the VM > host, also opened a Googl

Linode and/or Google Fiber contacts?

, but the regular support channels aren't getting this to the right people. Off-list contact is fine. -- Chris Adams

Re: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public

ing closer to that point every day. Providers running CG-NAT see that getting IPv6 dual-stack deployed reduces the IPv4 bandwidth (so reduces the CG-NAT costs) because so much is IPv6-enabled already. -- Chris Adams

Re: OpenDNS contact

Hi Mark, I can help. I'll reach out to you directly. Thanks, Chris On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:40 AM Mark Costlow wrote: > > Does anyone have a contact within OpenDNS? A friend's business is in > extreme pain because a false-positive blacklisting and he hasn't been > able to

RE: ARIN POC RegDate...

That's just the Unix epoch time. Your info is missing for that field so the 32-bit integer is a string of 0's, which renders out to 00:00:00 UTC January 1st 1970. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of b...@theworld.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 8:59 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

RE: Linux WiFi Package Issues

I have the same issues with a Lenovo when connecting to a wifi6 that does 8x8 and 4x4 Mimo Moving back to Wifi5 access point and I don’t have the issues anymore. Hope this helps. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Pascal Masha Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:22 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject:

Re: facebook outage

Hopefully this will show people they can enjoy life and survive without it and that it will be just like myspace some day :) On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 5:31 PM Jeff Shultz wrote: > Now they just need to get the site itself back up. > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:25 PM Bill Woodcock wrote: > >> >> >>

Re: massive facebook outage presently

yeah we are seeing same, appears that none of their NS are responding to dns queries affecting all their properties, whatsapp, facebook, instagram etc chris On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:06 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > https://downdetector.com/status/facebook/ > > Normally not worth m

Re: IPv6 woes - RFC

, like 127.000.000.001 (which still works) or 008.008.008.008 (which does not), is broken. -- Chris Adams

Re: Rack rails on network equipment

Once upon a time, Niels Bakker said: > * c...@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) [Sat 25 Sep 2021, 00:17 CEST]: > >Which - why do I have to order different part numbers for back to > >front airflow? It's just a fan, can't it be made reversible? > >Seems like that would be cheaper th

Re: Rack rails on network equipment

rk equipment is not entirely competent. Which - why do I have to order different part numbers for back to front airflow? It's just a fan, can't it be made reversible? Seems like that would be cheaper than stocking alternate part numbers. -- Chris Adams

Re: Never push the Big Red Button (New York City subway failure)

True EPO story; maintenance crew carrying new drywall into the data center backed into the EPO that didn't have a cover on it. One of the most eerie sounds in networking...a completely silent data center. -chris On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:48 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Fr

Re: Xfi Advances Security (comcast)

> Does anyone have a contact at Comcast that can whitelist a URL or get me to a > team that can understand what is going on for the block to happen? Why is Comcast blocking things? That seems like it’s out of scope for an ISP. —Chris

Re: Reminder: Never connect a generator to home wiring without transfer switch

l people off the electricity in case anyone gets shocked.” I never heard that they were used, so that’s good. —Chris

Amazon Contact?

Looking to see if I can get someone at Amazon to help. Amazon Video is starting to think our CGN exit range is a VPN service (It isn't) Chris

Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements

I prefer the approach of disaggregating only when needed, not as a preventative measure. There are tools that can help with automating this disaggregation (ARTEMIS can do this, for example). — Chris On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 10:50 AM Billy Croan wrote: > How does the community feel about us

Re: Equinix Sales Rep

RIP Ryan's inbox On Fri, Jul 30, 2021, 5:25 PM Ryan Finnesey via NANOG wrote: > I know this might flood my inbox on a Friday, but I am looking for > recommendations on sales rep at Equinix that understand the carrier > space. I need to find out more information about their Equinix Fabric >

Re: aggregation tool that allows a bit of fuzz to aggregating ?

I guess something like this... maybe? Surely someone has already done this much better, but I thought it might be a fun puzzle. # Let's call it aggregate.py. You should test/validate this and not trust it at all because I don't. It does look like it works, but I can't promise anything like

Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

collusion or anything (probably), but our cable rates went up really fast there for a while. -- Chris Adams

RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

capital investment in less dense areas as users flee the decrepit service available. I am at least grateful that Auction 904 weighted and prioritized awards based on speeds delivered. Chris From: NANOG On Behalf Of james.cut...@consultant.com Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 2:14 PM To: Mike

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

ime of the Internet being a service largely for consumption of data is past. While school-from-home may be a passing thing as the pandemic wanes, it looks like work-from-home (at least part time) is not going to go away for a whole lot of people/companies. -- Chris Adams

RE: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

I’d be interested to understand the rationale for not wanting to change the definition. Is it strictly the business/capital outlay expense? Thanks, Chris Adams From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jason Canady Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 8:39 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US

Intro and Invitation to SANOG

is open: https://sanog.org/sanog37/ Feel free to hit me with questions. Cheers, ~Chris -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com

Verizon Wireless

Hello everyone, I know this is a long shot, but I'm hoping someone on here works for Verizon Wireless or knows someone that is in a position to assist us. Recently, a change to call routing occurred and Verizon Wireless calls are now being delivered across our tandem instead of a SIP peer.

Cox Outage - a little humor for the day

Communications. While checking the company's twitter for any status announcements, Cox had posted the following webinar just an hour ago. Cheers, -Chris -- Node-Nine, Inc. ch...@node-nine.com 619.354.6463 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: OVH datacenter SBG2 in Strasbourg on fire ????

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 7:40 PM Randy Bush wrote: > It surprises that important sites don't do mirroring. > > depends on what you mean by 'mirroring.' think latency. > > randy > -- > > Though a best effort to mirror would be acceptable. Maybe not up to the > minute

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