Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-26 Thread Douglas Otis
change once SCTP's advantages become increasingly apparent with the rise of data rates and desires for greater resiliency and security. Regards, Douglas Otis

IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
the IETF hampered progress in this area. Why band-aid on a solved problem? Regards, Douglas Otis

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 10:17 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. Dear Owen, The IETF

Re: IPv6 Multi-homing (was IPv6 /64 links)

2012-06-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 6/25/12 12:20 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Otis do...@mail-abuse.org wrote: On 6/25/12 7:54 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It would have been better if IETF had actually solved this instead of punting on it when developing IPv6. The IETF offered a HA

Re: Most energy efficient (home) setup

2012-04-19 Thread Douglas Otis
On 4/18/12 8:09 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:55 32PM, Douglas Otis wrote: Dear Jeroen, In the work that led up to RFC3309, many of the errors found on the Internet pertained to single interface bits, and not single data bits. Working at a large chip manufacturer

Re: Most energy efficient (home) setup

2012-04-18 Thread Douglas Otis
to find memory designs lacking internal error detection logic. Regards, Douglas Otis

Re: using ULA for 'hidden' v6 devices?

2012-01-26 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/26/12 7:35 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: 1. You don't want to disclose what addresses you are using on your internal network, including to the rir 2. You require or desire an address plan that your rir may consider wasteful. 3. You don't want to talk to an rir for a variety of personal or

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On 10/25/11 12:31 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:55:58 -0400, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Wouldn't the right place for that form of rejection to occur be at the mail server in question? In a perfect world, yes. When you find a perfect world, send us an invite. I

Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-10-11 Thread Douglas Otis
On 10/6/11 7:26 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 10/6/2011 4:02 PM, Wayne E Bouchard wrote: In some circles, he's being compared to Thomas Edison. Apply your own opinion there whether you feel that's accurate or not. I'll just state this: Both men were pasionate about what they did. They each changed

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-02 Thread Douglas Otis
On 9/1/11 11:52 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Serge Vautoursergevaut...@yahoo.ca wrote: Hello, Things I understand: IPv6 is the long term solution to IPv4 exhaustion. For IPv6 to work correctly, most of the IPv4 content has to be on IPv6. That's not there yet.

Re: OSPF vs IS-IS

2011-08-12 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/12/11 8:29 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: I thought I'd chime in from my perspective, being the head router jockey for a bunch of relatively small networks. I still find that many routers have support for OSPF but not IS-IS. That, plus the fact that most of these networks were based on OSPF

Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ?

2011-03-14 Thread Douglas Otis
On 3/14/11 9:11 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote: On 3/13/11 9:35 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote: the real cesspool is POC registries. i wish arin would start revoking allocations for entities with invalid POCs. Hear, hear! Leo's remembering the old days (80s - early '90s), when we checked

Re: NIST and SP800-119

2011-02-16 Thread Douglas Otis
On 2/16/11 10:57 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2011-02-16, at 02:44, Douglas Otis wrote: Routers indicate local MTUs, but minimum MTUs are not assured to have 1280 octets when IPv4 translation is involved. See Section 5 in rfc2460. I've heard that interpretation of 2460 before from Bill Manning

Re: NIST and SP800-119

2011-02-15 Thread Douglas Otis
On 2/15/11 11:09 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2011-02-14, at 21:41, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:24 PM, TR Shawts...@oitc.com wrote: Just wondering what this community thinks of NIST in general and their SP800-119 (

Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN

2011-01-26 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/25/11 6:00 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: On 24/01/2011 08:42 p.m., Douglas Otis wrote: It seems efforts related to IP address specific policies are likely doomed by the sheer size of the address space, and to be pedantic, ARP has been replaced with multicast neighbor discovery which

Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN

2011-01-24 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/24/11 11:04 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: well... you are correct - he did say shorter. me - i'd hollar for my good friends Fred and Radia (helped w/ the old vitalink mess) on the best way to manage an arp storm and/or cam table of a /64 of MAC addresses. :) It was hard

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-15 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/15/11 3:24 PM, Brandon Ross wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Owen DeLong wrote: I really doubt this will be the case in IPv6. I really hope you are right, because I don't want to see that either, however... Why do you suppose they did that before with IPv4? Sure you can make the argument

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-14 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/14/11 11:49 AM, Jack Bates wrote: On 1/14/2011 1:43 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Ah, but, the point here is that NAT actually serves as an enabling technology for part of the attack he is describing. Another example where NAT can and is a security negative. The fact that you refuse to

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-14 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/14/11 4:10 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Owen DeLongo...@delong.com wrote: Ah, but, the point here is that NAT actually serves as an enabling technology for part of the attack he is describing. As for strictly passive attacks, like the so-called drive by

Re: Is NAT can provide some kind of protection?

2011-01-13 Thread Douglas Otis
On 1/13/11 5:48 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Mark Andrewsma...@isc.org wrote: In messageaanlktikixf_mbuo-oskpjsw98vn5_d5wznui_pl37...@mail.gmail.com, William Herrin writes: There's actually a large difference between something that's impossible for a

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-14 Thread Douglas Otis
On 12/14/10 2:38 PM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 03:39:07PM -0600, Aaron Wendel wrote: To what end? And who's calling the shots there these days? Comcast has been nothing but shady for the last couple years. Spoofing resets, The L3 issue, etc. What's the

Re: Jumbo frame Question

2010-11-29 Thread Douglas Otis
On 11/29/10 1:18 PM, Jack Bates wrote: On 11/29/2010 1:10 PM, John Kristoff wrote: In a nutshell, as I recall, one of the prime motivating factors for not standardizing jumbos was interoperability issues with the installed base, which penalizes other parts of the network (e.g. routers

Re: do you use SPF TXT RRs? (RFC4408)

2010-10-05 Thread Douglas Otis
On 10/4/10 6:55 PM, Kevin Stange wrote: The most common situation where another host sends on your domain's behalf is a forwarding MTA, such as NANOG's mailing list. A lot of MTAs will only trust that the final MTA handling the message is a source host. In the case of a mailing list, that's

Re: do you use SPF TXT RRs? (RFC4408)

2010-10-04 Thread Douglas Otis
On 10/4/10 12:47 PM, Greg Whynott wrote: A partner had a security audit done on their site. The report said they were at risk of a DoS due to the fact they didn't have a SPF record. I commented to his team that the SPF idea has yet to see anything near mass deployment and of the millions of

Re: [OT]Bounce Back

2010-05-20 Thread Douglas Otis
On 5/20/10 4:08 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: James Bensley wrote: Got the below message back from Hotmail when emailing a friend I email every week. I have never experienced this particular error before, is this just an indication of high traffic between Google Mail and Hotmail? Yes, high

Re: DNS TXT field usage ?

2010-03-29 Thread Douglas Otis
On 3/29/10 12:06 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote: Hi Jul Dkim, SPF, and Domainkey are sender authentication methods for email system. Which use Public Key Cryptography. DKIM and Domainkeys use public key cryptography to authenticate signature sources used for signing at least email From headers

Re: DNS question, null MX records

2009-12-17 Thread Douglas Otis
On 12/17/09 4:54 AM, Tony Finch wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Douglas Otis wrote: To avoid server access and hitting roots: host-1.example.com. IN A 192.0.2.0 host-10.example.com. IN A 192.0.2.9 example.com.IN MX 0 host-1.example.com. example.com.IN MX 90 host-10.example.com

Re: DNS question, null MX records

2009-12-16 Thread Douglas Otis
On 12/16/09 3:59 AM, Tony Finch wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Mark Andrews wrote: Douglas Otis wrote: One might instead consider using: example.com.IN MX 0 192.0.2.0 IN MX 10 192.0.2.1 ... IN MX 90 192.0.2.9 Which

Re: DNS question, null MX records

2009-12-16 Thread Douglas Otis
On 12/16/09 4:48 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: Douglas Otisdo...@mail-abuse.org writes: If MX TEST-NET became common, legitimate email handlers unable to validate messages prior to acceptance might find their server resource constrained when bouncing a large amount of spam as well. none of this

Re: DNS question, null MX records

2009-12-15 Thread Douglas Otis
On 12/15/09 8:06 AM, Andy Davidson wrote: Eric J Esslinger wrote: I have a domain that exists solely to cname A records to another domain's websites. [...] I found a reference to a null MX proposal, constructed so: example.comINMX 0 . [...] Question: Is this a valid dns construct

Re: SPF Configurations

2009-12-07 Thread Douglas Otis
On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Michael Holstein wrote: The problem we face is that some people we work with can't do that Then explain that client-side (their users, to whom they send mail) are probably using Hotmail, et.al. and SPF will simply not allow spoofing which is what they want

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, replaced by registered use

2009-09-14 Thread Douglas Otis
On 9/13/09 12:49 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: Frank Bulk wrote: [] If anything, there's more of a disincentive than ever before for ARIN to spend time on netblock sanitization. This whole thread seems to be about shifting (I.E. by externalizing) the costs of remediation. presumably the entities

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-10 Thread Douglas Otis
This was responded to on the DNSEXT mailing list. Sorry, but your question was accidentally attributed to Paul who forwarded the message. DNSEXT Archive: http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/ -Doug

Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-06 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/5/09 7:05 PM, Naveen Nathan wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:17:01PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: ... It seems to me that the situation is no worse than DNSSEC, since in both cases the software at each hop needs to be aware of the security stuff, or you fall back to plain unsigned DNS.

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-05 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/5/09 9:48 AM, John Levine wrote: Other than DNSSEC, I'm aware of these relatively simple hacks to add entropy to DNS queries. 1) Random query ID 2) Random source port 3) Random case in queries, e.g. GooGLe.CoM 4) Ask twice (with different values for the first three hacks) and compare

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-05 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/5/09 11:38 AM, Skywing wrote: That is, of course, assuming that SCTP implementations someday clean up their act a bit. I'm not so sure I'd suggest that they're really ready for prime time at this point. SCTP DNS would be intended for ISPs validating DNS where there would be fewer

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-05 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/5/09 11:31 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Douglas Otis wrote: Having major providers support the SCTP option will mitigate disruptions caused by DNS DDoS attacks using less resources. Can you elaborate on this (or are you referring to removing the spoofing

Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky

2009-08-05 Thread Douglas Otis
On 8/5/09 2:49 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: and state-management seems like it won't be too much of a problem on that dns server... wait, yes it will. DNSSEC UDP will likely become problematic. This might be due to reflected attacks, fragmentation related congestion, or packet loss. When

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Douglas Otis
On Aug 12, 2007, at 6:41 AM, John Levine wrote: The problems with domain tasting more affect web users, with vast number of typosquat parking pages flickering in and out of existence. Domain tasting clearly affects assessments based upon domains. With millions added and removed daily as

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On May 24, 2007, at 10:45 PM, John Levine wrote: I ask you: What would you suggest? It's quite hard to craft technical solutions to policy failures. Since the registrar business has degenerated into a race to the bottom, I don't see anything better than setting a floor that is the